Posting my first picture .45 Bully
- Thread starter Quad82
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Really? That was too easy. I dodged trying to learn to post pictures for over a year. And it took less then 20 seconds to do it!
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How does 8” or worse groups at 10 yards sound? Ya, that’s what I said too! I have emailed Hatsan 4 times in the last week. No response. They have always been great returning my emails, sending parts and even sent me decals. I called them today. Got voicemail telling me to fill out the customer form. I did leave a message. But still no returned call. The barrel has NO rifling. With the barrel removed, I can drop one of Harsan’s .454 slugs in and it will free fall 2/3 the way down before it catches. I take a cleaning rod and just touch the slug and it slides through. I will give them another day and then call again. If I cant get anywhere with them, I will be cutting a new barrel.
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Wow that's horrible. Sorry!!! Please update us to what happens. What vendor did you buy the gun from? I had a similar issue with an at44 I purchased through fieldsupply. I was getting shotgun groups at 25 yards. Fieldsupply apologized and replaced my gun with a real shooter. I had about the same experience with dealing directly with hatsan you had. Sorry again, bad experiences can really put a dampen on a fun sport/hobby.
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Forgot. I baught the rifle from a friend who baught it from Field Supply too. He said it wasn’t a refurbed. But who knows. Hatsan has always been great to work with. But for some reason, they didn’t get my emails. Maybe I wasn’t doing something right. But they did respond to my second voice mail.
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No rifling. That's assuring.
I've been looking at some of the Hatsans but horror stories like these are keeping me away. I'm not aware as to wear Hatsans are made, imported through, sold by exclusively, etc. So, I am not about to buy one and get a lemon. I really wanted a Hercules in .177 & .22 for those new 15-29 grain .177 slugs & all types of .22's from Diabolos to .22 cup/dish base slugs. I can't seem to find specs on Hatsan barrels or get answers here. Also, I must say that I find the AGN search function to be lacking, or not very "user friendly."
I recall a post on a Hatsan for sale from a well respected experienced member. He stated he had upgraded all Hatsan screws with actual Grade 8. He'd stated that Hatsan uses junk screws. I believe they are made in Turkey. Not that Turkey can't produce a good air gun, but no rifling? How does a barrel make it through QC, (do they even have a QC?) assembly, line, or barrel factory without all it needs to actually be called a barrel?
I've been looking at some of the Hatsans but horror stories like these are keeping me away. I'm not aware as to wear Hatsans are made, imported through, sold by exclusively, etc. So, I am not about to buy one and get a lemon. I really wanted a Hercules in .177 & .22 for those new 15-29 grain .177 slugs & all types of .22's from Diabolos to .22 cup/dish base slugs. I can't seem to find specs on Hatsan barrels or get answers here. Also, I must say that I find the AGN search function to be lacking, or not very "user friendly."
I recall a post on a Hatsan for sale from a well respected experienced member. He stated he had upgraded all Hatsan screws with actual Grade 8. He'd stated that Hatsan uses junk screws. I believe they are made in Turkey. Not that Turkey can't produce a good air gun, but no rifling? How does a barrel make it through QC, (do they even have a QC?) assembly, line, or barrel factory without all it needs to actually be called a barrel?
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I am not bashing Hatsan on the barrel. I did buy it used. Not sure if PO baught it as new or refurbed. Who knows what was run through it before I got it. After cleaning it good. I mean really good, you could see rifling in the barrel. But it wasn’t rifling like you would expect. It reminded me of a motor cylinder wall crosshatching. Very fine and no real definition. Even the bullets that I slugged through it didn’t show rifling.
When I had my FFL I would see rifles come through with screwed rifling. Some were from well respected makers too. So it happens.
When I had my FFL I would see rifles come through with screwed rifling. Some were from well respected makers too. So it happens.
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The screws are soft on Hatsans thats true
And their crowns need a work if you buy one
Have this bully in 25 and wish i have buy it in cal 30
In smaller cal than 30 its totally overpowerd
I drive the hammerstrike setting to the lightest point that is able in this gun to handle the 34 gr jsb
And their crowns need a work if you buy one
Have this bully in 25 and wish i have buy it in cal 30
In smaller cal than 30 its totally overpowerd
I drive the hammerstrike setting to the lightest point that is able in this gun to handle the 34 gr jsb
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I purchased and replaced all the screws in the Bully today. The 2 screws holding the cocking lever to the cocking rail were loose and almost worn into. Also recieved an Oring assortment froM McMaster Carr. Did a complete rebuild of the .45. Waiting on drier weather to test out the rebuild and Neil’s LDC. If anyone needs screw or Oring sizes, I have them.
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Hello Quad 82, im interested about this sizes.
Will change my screws to
On my Hatsan At44 i kill one ofnthesnsoft srews.
I dont will do the same on The Bully
Will change my screws to
On my Hatsan At44 i kill one ofnthesnsoft srews.
I dont will do the same on The Bully
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The screws in the cocking linkage are 3mm with a .50 pitch. Hardware store at about .20 cents each. Take one with you for checking length.
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Tore the rifle down and replaced a couple more cut orings. Also tightened the valve spring nut that vibrated loose/off. Any one needing orings for the .45 Bully, give me a holler. I have hundreds of them! Added the Neil LDC. Not back yard friendly. But much better. This is a very loud gun to start with.
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Have you checked the barrel twist rate? Roundballs require a slow twist rate, and that barrel is likely designed for conicals. The barrel may also be choked. For roundballs in 45 caliber a 1-48 twist works well, and for lighter conicals a 1-26 twist works.
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I would also try slugging the barrel with cerrosafe. The roundballs you are using sound to be undersized.
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I was only shooting the balls till my other dies came in. Haven’t shot one since. Using 166gn cast fp I can keep most shots well within 1” at 50 yards. Might not sound like much, but I am using a red dot on the rifle. And at 50, the dot is about the same size as the targets dot. I have a new scope mount in the works. But having rotator cuff repair last week has that on hold for a bit.
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