Please post some close pic of Backbone & lens

Hey @ambos,

I know we have had correspondence back forth on this topic but I want to be sure that you understand that the BackBone GoPro Hero really is intended for the user that wants to use very large lenses. In order to use the Hero sized lenses (for scope cam use), you screw an adaptor on the BackBone which essentially provides you with the same threads as the stock camera. This arrangement puts you right back where you started by threading in a GoPro compatible lens which you can do without the backbone conversion.

The Backbone system does not increase the lens quality in any way, it just offers the photographer lots of lens options outside those specifically designed to work with GoPro cameras.


 
Hey @ambos,

I know we have had correspondence back forth on this topic but I want to be sure that you understand that the BackBone GoPro Hero really is intended for the user that wants to use very large lenses. In order to use the Hero sized lenses (for scope cam use), you screw an adaptor on the BackBone which essentially provides you with the same threads as the stock camera. This arrangement puts you right back where you started by threading in a GoPro compatible lens which you can do without the backbone conversion.

The Backbone system does not increase the lens quality in any way, it just offers the photographer lots of lens options outside those specifically designed to work with GoPro cameras.


Thank for your info Hajimoto, you're like my family. We're waiting for your video testing new lens of EagleVision.
 
Hey @ambos,

I know we have had correspondence back forth on this topic but I want to be sure that you understand that the BackBone GoPro Hero really is intended for the user that wants to use very large lenses. In order to use the Hero sized lenses (for scope cam use), you screw an adaptor on the BackBone which essentially provides you with the same threads as the stock camera. This arrangement puts you right back where you started by threading in a GoPro compatible lens which you can do without the backbone conversion.

The Backbone system does not increase the lens quality in any way, it just offers the photographer lots of lens options outside those specifically designed to work with GoPro cameras.


Hajimoto… so are you saying the 12mm lens provided with the backbone H7PRO in the Side-Shot GoPro package is of the same thread pitch as the unmodified GoPro HERO 7? If this is correct, then the 12mm lens from BackBone is of the same thread pitch and will properly thread into any standard GoPro HERO 7 if you don't use the adapter required for it to thread into the modified H7PRO? I thought the GoPro used a thread pitch that couldn't be found on a 12mm lens, and this was the reason for the adapter the backbone used.

I noticed in the description of the 12mm lens from Eagle Vision they said it was not the same thread pitch as the GoPro HERO 7 but it's modified such that you can safely force it into the GoPro HERO 7 threads for a couple of turns, but it may turn hard. Well of course it will start to turn hard if the thread pitch of the lens and camera are mismatched. That just boggles my mind... if you force a lens with the wrong thread pitch in to the GoPro too far, you are going to damage the fine threads on the lens, the camera, or both.

Bottom line is I didn't think a 12mm lens with matching thread pitch for the GoPro HERO 7 was available, and this was the reason Side-Shot used the H7PRO from BackBone in their GoPro version of the Side-Shot Scope Cam, because BackBone made using a 12mm possible with their adapter, and 12mm was optimal for scope video, performing better than the 8.5mm that would fit without modification.

Please correct me wherever I am incorrect, as I am not positive I understand this correctly.

Thanks!
 
Hajimoto… so are you saying the 12mm lens provided with the backbone H7PRO in the Side-Shot GoPro package is of the same thread pitch as the unmodified GoPro HERO 7? If this is correct, then the 12mm lens from BackBone is of the same thread pitch and will properly thread into any standard GoPro HERO 7 if you don't use the adapter required for it to thread into the modified H7PRO? I thought the GoPro used a thread pitch that couldn't be found on a 12mm lens, and this was the reason for the adapter the backbone used.

I noticed in the description of the 12mm lens from Eagle Vision they said it was not the same thread pitch as the GoPro HERO 7 but it's modified such that you can safely force it into the GoPro HERO 7 threads for a couple of turns, but it may turn hard. Well of course it will start to turn hard if the thread pitch of the lens and camera are mismatched. That just boggles my mind... if you force a lens with the wrong thread pitch in to the GoPro too far, you are going to damage the fine threads on the lens, the camera, or both.

Bottom line is I didn't think a 12mm lens with matching thread pitch for the GoPro HERO 7 was available, and this was the reason Side-Shot used the H7PRO from BackBone in their GoPro version of the Side-Shot Scope Cam, because BackBone made using a 12mm possible with their adapter, and 12mm was optimal for scope video, performing better than the 8.5mm that would fit without modification.

Please correct me wherever I am incorrect, as I am not positive I understand this correctly.

Thanks!

Hello @Chuck26287,

I did not do a good job of qualifying some of the statements I made previously which were directed at a user that already had in their possession any given lens and were under the impression that a BackBone modified GoPro would somehow offer better image quality.
The GoPro Hero 5, 6 and 7 use a proprietary M12 x 0.35mm thread pitch which is very difficult to find lenses with that configuration. The BackBone modification offers the user a base plate (RibCage) that can accept different adapters which expands the lens options immensely.

Your understanding is correct that currently there is not a 12mm lens in the proper GoPro M12x0.35mm pitch available and the BackBone allows the use of a more common 12mm M12x0.5mm pitch to be used. As for 12mm being optimal, it is only optimal at higher resolutions which typically make the image visually smaller on the monitor. But the magnification of 12mm lens is far too much for anything under 1080p resolution which is why I always said that the 8.25mm was the best overall lens strength because it allowed folks on older GoPros to you use 720p@240FPS and have a full view of the scope picture.

I also agree that incorrect thread pitch engagement typically results in a compromised part or parts. But In this instance, because we are talking about the interface of parts that are not pressure vessels or required to be structurally loaded which are merely concentrically holding an object at a fixed elevation, catastrophic failure is unlikely. I will be testing the Eaglevision 12mm M12x050mm lens and will report not only the image quality but any mechanical degradation concerns.

I hope that I cleared up any confusion I may have caused.

Hajimoto