Pickup Trucks, what to get.

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    Imyourhuckleberry
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    This is in reply to Makoda's comment about the Chevy having a better ride than the Ford.  A couple of years ago, I took 3 Chevy owners up to SD for a pheasant hunt in my Ford Lariat super crew.  2 of them owned Chevy pickups, the third a Suburban that his wife drives.  After we came back from the hunt, both of the p/u owners traded their Chevys for new Fords.  The only one who didn't trade was the Suburban owner, and when I asked him why he didn't trade too, he said his wife wouldn't let him trade "her" Suburban for a pickup.  Both of the new Ford owners told me there was no comparison in the ride, and they're both still driving a Ford.  One of the new Ford owner's son also traded his Chevy for a Ford after riding in his dad's new truck.  Last year he got T boned in his new Ford, and got a new one to replace the wrecked car.  This is a 100% true story, and all 3 of these guys are still driving their Ford pickups today.  I have a 2014 King Ranch super crew w/4 wheel drive, and it's the best driving pickup I've ever had, and I'll be keeping it for a long, long time, as I don't like the new aluminum bodied trucks!  I suppose that if I had an accident and had to buy a new truck I'd have to get a Ford F250 to stay with the steel body.

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    At $60k for a new Explorer, what are you looking at?  My dealer has several Explorers  in their inventory right now, and the only ones over $50k is the new ST, and a new Platinum which is the top of the line.  All of their other Explorers are at or under $50k, and their published prices are still open for negotiation.  The only truck they have that they really aren't negotiable on is the Raptor, which they can sell for list price for every one they can get.  I took my son over to look at one of their Raptors, and he ended up buying from a dealer in Denver because he got a better trade on his car.  He still paid list price for his Raptor out there..they're the hot ticket in pickup sales!

    I'd be very surprised if you can't find the Explorer you want for under $50k.  Over the years when I couldn't sell airplanes because of the economy in my area I sold cars on 3 different occasions until the economy improved.  Not something I wanted to do long term, but it was a good income and it kept the wolf away from the door nicely, and no, I never sold Fords!

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    My Tacoma is 20 years old. Has 328,000 miles. Has NEVER left me on the side of the road. Still has original Ice Cold A/C and the truck is still 80% original. Heck it still has the original exhaust on it. You won't find a more dependable truck than a Tacoma and they hold their resale better than any other brand of truck

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    tomkelly45
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    I love my 4 door Suzuki Equator 4WD

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    Tominco
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    I just picked up a 2015 Tacoma last week. It's just another chapter for Toyota in my life. 

    I started driving with a 1983 Toyota Custom Cab 4×4 (very rare!) lifted and rolling 33's. Moved on from that to a '90 Toyota pickup 4cyl show truck with 38.5" tires named "Moose". Then, a 97 2wd ext cab Tacoma. That didn't last long as it was black, which was a pain to keep clean, and it was just too low to the ground for me. That got me into my 1999 Tacoma ext cab with 2.7 4cyl engine. I got it with 14 miles on it and my next oil change is at 330,000 miles! Yeah.. I still have it and it still runs like a top! I have pushed it beyond its ratings for both bed capacity and towing weight ratings multiple times. When I test drove it, I also test drove a 6cyl ford ranger. I was shocked at the lack of power the ford had to the point that I thought it was a 4cyl. I was also shocked at the power the 2.7 4cyl Tacoma actually DID have! 

    Like I said, Last week I picked up a '15 Taco double cab V6. The fuel economy is going to hurt compared to the 4cyl but, the power and comfort of a newer vehicle should compensate for the difference for me. I also have 2 1983 Toyotas. One is a Custom cab restoration project and the other was supposed to be a parts truck. The darn thing ended up being so reliable and so much fun to drive that I can't bring myself to part it out into the Custom Cab. I can honestly tell you that I smile every time I drive "Old Yeller". BTW, my first truck was named "Putsy". 

    Full disclosure, I'm anti-ford. But, I do think they have the best, most experienced, mechanics in the industry! Think on that for a minute, you'll get it. 

    I was never a fan of Dodge but, recently was in the market for one of their Eco-Diesels. I wasn't even slightly interested in anything else but an eco-diesel. My budget dictated that I could only look at used Eco's. I have 3 friends with Eco's. 2 are VERY happy, one is not. I'll go into why in a sec. 2 of them warned me about something. It's referred to as "Flashing" the computer. The one the is not happy had his computer flashed. He has since been to the dealership multiple times for check engine lights. They have replaced almost every electronic component that has to do with the engine. One of the two that is still happy with his warned me about this "flashing" as well. Apparently, the EPA raised holy heck with Dodge and forced them to make changes to their old engines by offering a $3800 incentive to customers to have their computers "updated" to the new standard. Reports are showing that many owners that have done this are experiencing lower fuel economy, loss of horsepower, check engine lights, and other issues. Dodge completely changed the engines that are in the new Eco-Diesels so, I don't think they are having any issues but, they also have not been proven yet. 

    If there wasn't this "flashing" issue and I could have found what I was looking for, I would have gone for the Dodge over the Tacoma. It had better fuel economy, more features, and better capacities at a comparable price (used). If I was in the market for a brand new truck, I'd be looking at the new Dodge Eco-Diesel. I wasn't and still am not even remotely interested in any other engine they offer besides the Eco-Diesel. But, that's due to my own lifestyle. 

    Good luck with whatever route you end up taking!! 

    Tom

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