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Perfect Word – What is your ideal pcp?

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    texagdds
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    In a perfect world (being realistic), what would the specs of your pcp be?  Lever action? Semi auto? Pellets/slugs? Shot count? Bull pup/carbine?

    Mine would be Semi Auto bull pup with an adjustable match grade trigger, .22 or .25, able to shoot pellets or slugs accurately – even if I had to change the barrel with threads for suppressor if desired. Shot count 60+ regulated.  Decent out of the box without much tinkering, but with the adjustability to fine tune if desired.  Probably a big ask. Kind of a hybrid between the Huben and the impact features. 

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    ironlion269
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    Interesting specs on your perfect PCP.  You also seem to have no issues with your self-esteem.  Never met anyone who considered himself “a perfect world” before.  You must be a hoot to shoot with!

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    sonny
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    im guessing he meant (in) a perfect world

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    texagdds
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    Hah!  My iPhone must have a better view of me than I do!  Edit made. 

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    JohnL57
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    “sonny”im guessing he meant (in) a perfect world

    
X 2 on that, Sonny, LOL!
    I’ll play-How about a lightweight (6-7#) 2000psi fill .25 cal. with decent power (40 ft. lbs.), superb accuracy, high shot count (40-50 per fill)
    and a walnut stock?

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    addertooth
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    Physics rules are cruel.  They exist even in perfect worlds.  I would have to buy two airguns for my desires… a small bore .25 caliber, and a larger bore air rifle.  I cannot do all I want with a small bore air rifle (large game hunting legally taken).  The large bore would be slug friendly,  The small bore could be pellet only.  A simply chrony built into the baffles, which both reports velocity to a display (turns on when trigger is at first stage to save power, shuts off shortly after second stage is pulled), and dynamically tunes the rifle for a flat shot curve (more hammer strike when velocity drops off via a servo spring pre-tensioner).  Electronic pressure gauge on the air tank, so the gun knows when a tank is full, and can feather off the hammer strike a bit. You will select your round-type, so the learning system will know how to tune itself from each successive shot string for consistent velocity.   Skip the whole regulator route, as it requires a plenum to ensure power shots (thus losing total volume, unless you have a bottle plus a separate tank/plenum area).  Scope with no-motion wind speed measurement and rangefinder, moves reticle to auto adjust for windage and distance.  Put the crosshairs on the target… squeeze the trigger.  You only need to put in the BC of your pellet/slug, it gets velocity of the previous shot from the built in air rifle chrony.  
    There you go… is that pie in the sky enough for everyone 😉
     

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    texagdds
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    “addertooth”Physics are cruel.  They exist even in perfect worlds.  I would have to buy two airguns for my desires… a small bore .25 caliber, and a larger bore air rifle.  I cannot do all I want with a small bore air rifle (large game hunting legally taken).  The large bore would be slug friendly,  The small bore could be pellet only.  A simply chrony built into the baffles, which both reports velocity to a display (turns on when trigger is at first stage to save power, shuts off shortly after second stage is pulled), and dynamically tunes the rifle for a flat shot curve (more hammer strike when velocity drops off via a servo spring pre-tensioner).  Electronic pressure gauge on the air tank, so the gun knows when a tank is full, and can feather off the hammer strike a bit. You will select your round-type, so the learning system will know how to tune itself from each successive shot string for consistent velocity.   Skip the whole regulator route, as it requires a plenum to ensure power shots (thus losing total volume, unless you have a bottle plus a separate tank/plenum area).  Scope with no-motion wind speed measurement and rangefinder, moves reticle to auto adjust for windage and distance.  Put the crosshairs on the target… squeeze the trigger.  You only need to put in the BC of your pellet/slug, it gets velocity of the previous shot from the built in air rifle chrony.  
    There you go… is that pie in the sky enough for everyone 😉
     

    
Whoa. That would be cool. 

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    intenseaty22
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    x3, I know what you meant.

    Feels like I have played this game before. But maybe my vision has changed, so in no particular order:

    •Carbon Fiber Air Tube (don’t like bottle)
    •.22 cal, can shoot pellets or slugs, 0.5” at 50 yards
    •Stupid Easy Maintenance and tear down
    •Repeatable adjustability of Power
    •Anti-Double loading feature 
    •Lever Action, dont care for semi auto 
    •Magazine like the Kalibrgun/Taipan style 
    •Range Finding Scope
    •Reasonably lightweight 
    •Semi-Bullpup configuration
    •Shot count: Reasonable for each power setting 
    •Electronic Trigger a-la Daystate 
    •Super fast Shutter (like a camera) style Valve 

     

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    toku58
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    “texagdds”In a perfect world (being realistic), what would the specs of your pcp be?  Lever action? Semi auto? Pellets/slugs? Shot count? Bull pup/carbine?
    Mine would be Semi Auto bull pup with an adjustable match grade trigger, .22 or .25, able to shoot pellets or slugs accurately – even if I had to change the barrel with threads for suppressor if desired. Shot count 60+ regulated.  Decent out of the box without much tinkering, but with the adjustability to fine tune if desired.  Probably a big ask. Kind of a hybrid between the Huben and the impact features. 

    
You’re basically describing the Impact “X”

    It’s my Ideal gun! I’ve been waiting for it for months! It should be on it’s way on the Brown truck sometime next week!
    It’s a .22 cal/ I’m hoping it shoots H&N Piledrivers lights out!

    I need a gun that can adjust from 12 FPE to a hard hitter! The closest I’ve been able to find is the Impact “X”. 
    Compactness is a priority!
    Noise level is a priority! (As quiet as I can get!)
    Tack driver is a must!

    There are other guns that can do any one of these things better.
    But the Impact “X” should be able to do it all very well. (The best out there for what I’m looking for as of today) Tomorrow may be a different story?!
     

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    Raden1942
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    Pbba 20 guage with 45.60 rifled barrel liner with helium mix tether while i build a hunting blind with bathroom and a bed. Until then ill use my bulldog and urban in a glorified tent and a coffee can. Ill give you one guess what each item substituted the bathroom :/

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    Raden1942
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    I am currently designing a perfect pcp as one has never been made b4. This is my perfect pcp so haters back off. Lol. Anyway im toying with a 177 cast bullet slinger. I want it to shoot 8 full power shots with a 3/4 inch long 50 grain 177 bullet. Still looking at twist rates but that comes after i find the right power. Ideally power would be 50g at 1800 fps for a max fpe of 359 or so. Heres a general idea of how I would do this. I would start with a powerful known gun with in line valve & bottle. Possibly airforce but id like a wood stock so maybe something else. Anyway whatever it is upgrade to 4800 psi 500cc tank. Maybe two if i cant get my numbers. Reciever heres my biggest problem. At pressures this high and bullets this big almost every production reciever is out. Im looking into milling out a titanium block but i dont have those tools so…. Anyway. I figure airforce texan reciever modified to be permanently welded shut. Last part most of you will hate but i love so who cares. This will be  a muzzle loader! I had to because of the tall bullets. Anyway its going to be a big heavy blind gun but i think i can make a super accurate loooooooong range gun. I think 3 inches ctc at 350 yards would be possible. This will be my first gun i build for myself. Comense laughing at me and telling me how it cant be done?

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    sonny
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    Ill go first LOLOLOL ok just kidding but those 3/4 inch 177s sound like mini torpedo’s

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    sonny
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    My perfect airgun would be a .25 cal(springer) that can shoot  35gr slugs out of a 11 round magazine 900fps and capable of consistent groups of 1/2inch at 100yrds preferably bullpup or carbine.   oops not a pcp

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    addertooth
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    When a round is that small, and that long, stabilizing it (finding the right twist and velocity), is very tough

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    sonny
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    “addertooth”When a round is that small, and that long, stabilizing it (finding the right twist and velocity), is very tough

    
mayby you could put feathers on it like a dart

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    addertooth
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    Good idea, after you shoot something, it will be mighty tickled

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    EliteAirgunr
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    “JohnL57”

    “sonny”im guessing he meant (in) a perfect world

    
X 2 on that, Sonny, LOL!
    I’ll play-How about a lightweight (6-7#) 2000psi fill .25 cal. with decent power (40 ft. lbs.), superb accuracy, high shot count (40-50 per fill)
    and a walnut stock?

    
Sounds like you pretty much described a Taipan Veteran

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    scubajeeper
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    How about light, short, accurate, high shot count, smooth action, good looking, well made, bugs fixed before it leaves the factory and affordable. I know, it’s too much to ask for.

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    Brian.in.MI
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    A side lever .25 cal bullpup set up for slugs at 80 ft lbs, sub MOA at 100 yards and 50 shots per fill. That would really make my PP tingle.  

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    crittahitta
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    It would be my 25 cal condor ss with a 10 shot magazine and a lowe scope mount. That would be perfect for me since it is already powerful, adjustable, accurate, light and easily modified.

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