I’ve got six Springers that sadly, haven’t been used in a year.... they used to get shot daily.... sadly.... accuracy, weight, foot pounds... they can’t compete in the air gun stable that includes the likes of FX and Air ARMS.... once you pop that PCP that does hole in hole at 50 and then 75 and then pick up a springer.... well.... the springer becomes a red headed step child. These days my springers have been relegated to live trap kills and thats about it.... I always have one in the Ranger where it gets Coated in dust and my 30 caliber break barrel did kill a fox this summer and it was coated in dust when it did so.... I suppose if the end of days comes... these might have there place... hard to find one for them now in the world of PCPS.. at least for this shooter...
PCP Ruined Springers for me
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Sounds like my story, Nothing could out shoot my old FWB 124, I shot sparrows all day long and piled them up, 50 yards was pretty well my MAX,
And then I took the crazy leap into the dark side of the PCP world.
About eight years ago I bought a Marauder, a week later I bought a 22 Cricket, Well I ended up on a waiting list for over a year,
My FWB sets and collects dust , The shots I make with my Cricket, Mutant, Veteran, and Vulcan have me just amazed at these guns,
I have NEVER had a problem one, I did sell the Marauder, I regret that, Come to think about it every PCP I have sold I regret, But I have only sold two.
And then I took the crazy leap into the dark side of the PCP world.
About eight years ago I bought a Marauder, a week later I bought a 22 Cricket, Well I ended up on a waiting list for over a year,
My FWB sets and collects dust , The shots I make with my Cricket, Mutant, Veteran, and Vulcan have me just amazed at these guns,
I have NEVER had a problem one, I did sell the Marauder, I regret that, Come to think about it every PCP I have sold I regret, But I have only sold two.
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Are you kidding me! I absolutely love my springers and always will. I have a couple of Diana springers and when I go to the range and I forget to fill my PCP guns and tanks that's when I love my springers the most. ;^) I started out on co2 then went to PCP before I purchased my springers. So they have always been a back-up for me and for that they are great. Still I know what you mean I can shoot some pretty tight groups with my springers at 25 yards but can beat those groups at 50+ yards with my PCP's without the cocking effort. Poor poor springers are mostly neglected these days.
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+1 on what Biohazardman said. I love my Rapid, cricket, AA and others. Nothing like bringing out the FWB 124, r9 or FWB 300 for the simplicity side of airgunning. No gauges, refills. Just grab a tin of pellets and have at it.
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Guess I'll avoid PCPs then! I love my springers and I find the ones that are a little more pellet picky and more hold sensitive I enjoy shooting more! I get a kick out of working a little harder to get my tight groups. I also enjoy the more "mechanical feel" to my springers even over my pistons. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of PCPs and have been tempted for some time, but i don't think I'll make that leap.
For this shooter, I will continue to enjoy my springers. But, part of me feels that if I did take that leap, I'd have dusty and rusty springers sitting there begging to be fired
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For this shooter, I will continue to enjoy my springers. But, part of me feels that if I did take that leap, I'd have dusty and rusty springers sitting there begging to be fired
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Shamefully follow on Glenroilands comment.....springer s are so old fashioned...whatcha selling?
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Yup, all my springers have been sprung. Sold, traded, or given away.
I still have a P-17 pistol if that counts? But haven't shot it in forever.
I still have a P-17 pistol if that counts? But haven't shot it in forever.
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I own both, and love both. Each has their individual challenges.
I like that for the most part I can work on my own guns (Springers) and do a pretty good job. Not too complicated. They also keep my shooting abilities honest and fine tuned. They force me to think each shot through while paying attention to my whole body, posture, hold, grip, etc. Also they are a fantastic backup for if/when my compressor needs fixing.
I like that for the most part I can work on my own guns (Springers) and do a pretty good job. Not too complicated. They also keep my shooting abilities honest and fine tuned. They force me to think each shot through while paying attention to my whole body, posture, hold, grip, etc. Also they are a fantastic backup for if/when my compressor needs fixing.
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I just like airguns. Of all types. I have a couple of springers (well NP2 actually), a CO2, several multi pump pneumatics and got I my first pcp in January and ironically, this summer I found myself picking up and shooting my one and only CO2 gun I have the most. I just try spread the love around. They all have their own pros and cons and subtle nuances.
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I’m the opposite, the PCPs sit and the springers get almost all of the attention. I’ve got some very accurate and powerful PCPs. While I appreciate their capabilities, I enjoy the overall experience of shooting my springers far more. For some purposes, a PCP is the better choice. But most of the time the springers have plenty of power and very good accuracy out to 35 yards.
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Trust me you will come back.
I too love the ease of accuracy of the PCP, but there is nothing like the slow simplicity of plinking with a springer!
So rewarding when you get a tight group also.
I too love the ease of accuracy of the PCP, but there is nothing like the slow simplicity of plinking with a springer!
So rewarding when you get a tight group also.
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Oh Hallolulu,I am so glad I waited so long to get my first PCP,by the time I did I had a nice collection of German and British springers.
Fact ,I had been shooting springers for 25 years before I got a PCP,so I knew springers...the ins and out of them,they took care to shoot right and to group good,I developed a relationship with each one and each one had a unique "want"'.....
I finally broke down and '"went to the dark side".....they were so easy to shoot and I could put Any scope them,forget about about getting to know them,they were like a easy lay ,did not need to have a relationship ,just fed them right and they perform.
Yes it is true for me,when I want a quickie I grab one of my PCPs,when I want to renew an old relationship I grab one of my springers.....
Fact ,I had been shooting springers for 25 years before I got a PCP,so I knew springers...the ins and out of them,they took care to shoot right and to group good,I developed a relationship with each one and each one had a unique "want"'.....
I finally broke down and '"went to the dark side".....they were so easy to shoot and I could put Any scope them,forget about about getting to know them,they were like a easy lay ,did not need to have a relationship ,just fed them right and they perform.
Yes it is true for me,when I want a quickie I grab one of my PCPs,when I want to renew an old relationship I grab one of my springers.....
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The great thing about springers is they can just sit there for years in your gun safe while you play, tune and repair your PCP’s. Then one day you decide to pull it out and shoot it and it’s the exact same gun. Try that with a PCP.
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I have been shooting PCP’s for a while and decided to buy a new spring, a HW50S in 177 and it is incredible! Once broken in it is so easy to shoot accurately. I can shoot groups at 35 yards the match my PCP’s! I love it.
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My main fear over the cost of compressors etc is getting s leak issue and having to send it in for service and all that entails. I like that my spring guns just always work. I do think I’ll take the plunge though. Starting to like the brocock bantam. Even though I’m not really a bottle guy. I prefer the look of a cylinder but don’t love the look of the compatto
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I like them both. I got away from springers when I got heavily into PCPs, but I started to appreciate springers again. I shoot more in my backyard and it's 35 yards so I will grab ether springer or PCP depending on my mood. I am air-independent so that's not an issue at all. I just enjoy shooting, so whether it's a PCP, springer or rimfire, I like it all.
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I have four PCPs, a Weihrauch HW97K in .22 and an AA TX200 in .177. Except for my .22 Daystate RW HP and my RAW HM1000X, all have now been tuned by Motorhead.
While I enjoy shooting my PCPs immensely and do so with great frequency, I equally enjoy shooting my springers. Since getting them back from Motorhead, hitting a 1.5" to 2" spinner at 55 yards is about a 95% proposition and they are loads of fun.
As many have indicated, both have their place in my stable, especially in the middle of the winter when it is near zero outside and my 18 yard indoor range comes into play. Working to shoot 1/4" groups is much more fun with the spring rifles than the PCPs which will produce such groups with nearly boring consistency.
What a great hobby...
While I enjoy shooting my PCPs immensely and do so with great frequency, I equally enjoy shooting my springers. Since getting them back from Motorhead, hitting a 1.5" to 2" spinner at 55 yards is about a 95% proposition and they are loads of fun.
As many have indicated, both have their place in my stable, especially in the middle of the winter when it is near zero outside and my 18 yard indoor range comes into play. Working to shoot 1/4" groups is much more fun with the spring rifles than the PCPs which will produce such groups with nearly boring consistency.
What a great hobby...
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I have been shooting springers for about 25 years off and on. Four years ago I started shooting pcps and shot them exclusively for about two years and then started venturing back to the springers. I love the power of the pcps and the fact that my wife and me included shoot them in field target I guess I will have to keep them around. I counted them earlier 14 pcps, 13 springers, and 4 CO2 pistols.
With all that said if I could only keep one. My R1Long Range Hunter will never leave. Vortek Kit Installed H&N 14.66 @ 810 ( 21.36 ft/lbs ) close as I ever got to a pcp and very shootable.
With all that said if I could only keep one. My R1Long Range Hunter will never leave. Vortek Kit Installed H&N 14.66 @ 810 ( 21.36 ft/lbs ) close as I ever got to a pcp and very shootable.
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