PCP Rifles for 100 Yards+

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I've been shooting my rifles anywhere from 15 yards, out to 50 yards.

I use my DAISY AVANTI .177 for the 15 yard range, and generally hit the black of the 10 meter target size every time. I'm not that good. I get most of my groups to about 1/2 to 3/4 inch.

I use my Hammerli 850 Air Magnum .177 at 25 yards, and generally get the same results as the Avanti.

My third rifle is the Umarex Gauntlet .25 PCP. I've used this out to 50 yards, and again, pretty much get the same results as the previous two rifles, though, I get an occasional wandering pellet that fall outside the 10 meter target black. I guess that the wandering pellets are due to some kind of imperfections, as I see the pellet curving when this happens.

I'm quite interested in shooting out to 100 yards, but not sure there is a PCP air rifle that I can afford that can reliable shoot that far, and stay as accurate as my other three rifles.

I've read, and also watched videos of those who claim to shoot much farther than 100 yards, and do it fairly accurately, and consistently. I take that with a grain of salt.

But is there a PCP air rifle that fits what I am looking for. Please don't recommend a springer. I don't have the strength to cock those darn things. I'm female, and 71 years young. Don't have the brawn some of you guys have.

I found out I like single shot rifles like my Avainti. It slows me down, and makes me concentrate much more on getting each shot on target. Those multi shot rifles I have are wonderful, but they tend to make you forget to concentrate because you can squeeze off a shot more quickly.



I've looked at "Air Force" rifles, but not sure how good they are at the longer distances for serious target shooting. That is my type of shooting. I go to the local powder burner shooting range about once a month to shoot for a few hours. All those there are very nice and supportive about my shooting an air rifle.

Thanks in advance for your replies, and suggestions. CaleyAnn
 
Lots of air rifles that can shoot decent groups at 100 yds. Big factors are, weather conditions, support equipment and form. The nut behine the trigger is biggest factor. The heavy. 22 pellets and the .25 caliber has a slight advantage. A lot of nice used guns that is more then capable are showing up in the classified. I have had good results with the jsb 33.9 mk ll in my Vulcan .25 tactic @ 100 yds.
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dizzums, Not wanting a powder burner. I'm happy with air rifles. The rifle range has a cart for those shooting at the 200, 250 and 300 yard targets. I doubt I will ever shoot at the 200, as I can't even see them without optical aid.. But I am not like most 70+ year old. I still can motor around on my own two legs almost as well as a 40 year old. I keep in shape, unlike so many who think retirement means a beer in hand, sitting on a couch, watching TV, and thinking exercise is a dirty word.

Shambozzie, yes, this nut behind the trigger is much better now than a few years back before my open heart surgery. My repaired ticker beats better now, and I can more easily shoot. I do want to get a rifle that has a longer barrel and is of better quality. I tend to like German made rifle barrels, as them seem to be higher quality.


 
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jiikuu, Yes, that's a very nice weapon. Unfortunately the price is way over my budget. I guess some people think $1000 is cheap. I'm looking for something between $500 and $750. I'm not wanting the kill anything, just target shoot at 100 yards. Not sure my Gauntlet can shoot 100 yards. I don't want to deal with having to make massive elevation adjustments on it because of drop off. Not sure how much drop off there is between 50 yards and 100 yards. Guess I could set a target out the next time at the range, and see if it can make the grade. I do know that I need a larger caliber rifle. The .177's I have don't do well past 25 yards, though the Hammerli did shoot fairly decently at 50 yards.
 
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If it were me I would look into a used 25 cal. Air force condor . I picked my last one up for 425 used with a 24" barrel . its a single shot and as long as you dont change the springs out its easy to clock and are very capable of shooting good groups at 100+ yards . There are lots if guns capable of 100 plus yard groups. But I really like the simplicity and upgrade ability of the airforce line . 



Hope this helps you put 



Dan 
 
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dizzums, Not wanting a powder burner. I'm happy with air rifles. The rifle range has a cart for those shooting at the 200, 250 and 300 yard targets. I doubt I will ever shoot at the 200, as I can't even see them without optical aid.. But I am not like most 70+ year old. I still can motor around on my own two legs almost as well as a 40 year old. I keep in shape, unlike so many who think retirement means a beer in hand, sitting on a couch, watching TV, and thinking exercise is a dirty word.

Shambozzie, yes, this nut behind the trigger is much better now than a few years back before my open heart surgery. My repaired ticker beats better now, and I can more easily shoot. I do want to get a rifle that has a longer barrel and is of better quality. I tend to like German made rifle barrels, as them seem to be higher quality.

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"I've read, and also watched videos of those who claim to shoot much farther than 100 yards, and do it fairly accurately, and consistently. I take that with a grain of salt."

Trust but verify is a useful saying, but don't dismiss everything out of hand. You don't need a "powder burner" to shoot at somwehat longer ranges. But air guns are limited by their power levels so shooting them at longer and longer ranges will bring out more of their inherent weaknesses related to that lower power, and 100 yards is a pretty substantial distance for ANY air gun. Most importantly IMO is that shooting at longer ranges brings the ABILITY of the shooter into stark contrast against the ACCURACY POTENTIAL of the rifle. You mention 1/2" to 3/4" group sizes at 15 yards. Is that YOUR potential or is it the accuracy limitation of the rifle? The Daisy Avanti is regarded as a pretty accurate rifle if I recall correctly, but I've never owned one. But later you also mention "pretty similar" results at 50 yards with the Gauntlet. Does that mean you can shoot 1/2" to 3/4" groups at 50 yards? IF SO, THAT is a much higher ability level for the shooter (YOU) than is the ability to shoot 1/2" to 3/4" at 15 yards. The latter would indicate that YOU can shoot better than 1/2" to 3/4" at 15 yards. There must be a STANDARD for the "accuracy" measurement, however, for both rifle and shooter. The least accurate of the two will be the limit to overall accuracy possible. Let's say FOR DISCUSSION that the Umarex Gauntlet .25 rifle is capable of BETTER THAN 3/4" groups at 50 yards (I would bet that it is but I don't own one of those, either, so I'm not sure). IF THAT IS THE CASE, and YOUR groups range up to 3/4", then the 50 yard groups are YOUR BEST ABILITY at this point in time, not that of the rifle. IF that is the case, YOU could expect to shoot groups of no better than 1.5" groups at 100 yards (double the range and you AT LEAST double the "group size"), even if YOU were shooting a RIFLE capable of shooting 1" groups at that distance. But beyond about 50 yards with an air rifle, things such as wind and pellet stability can become even more difficult to predict. 100 yard shooting with an air gun is not particularly easy.

The good news is, practice and experience will almost certainly improve YOUR accuracy, up to the limits of YOUR vision and physical abilities. But if you practice and improve, then the accuracy limitation of any given rifle may not then match YOUR improved shooting ability. So I would suggest saving to get a rifle that is KNOWN to generally shoot well and hopefully you will get one that shoots to it's potential.

Personally, I would shy away from the AirForce guns for this use. I own 2 and like them. But they can be temperamental and must be shot carefully to produce their best accuracy. Something a bit easier to shoot might be better.
 
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As soon as I finish laying my new driveway, I will be taking time off from home renovation to go shooting. 

Yes, I will take my Gauntlet, and set out two targets. The first at 50 yards and the second out at 100 yards. Once I get the 50 yard zeroed in, I will move out to the 100, and hopefully, the Gauntlet will have enough energy to hit out that far. 

I'm hoping I don't have to do what I did with my Avanti, when I tried to shoot out to 50 yards. I had to aim high over the target in order for the pellet to drop into the target., as I didn't have enough scope adjustment to center on the target.

Will reply here when I manage to get to the range and try this experiment.
 
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15yds, 25yds, 50yds is one thing, 100yds is a whole other ball of wax with an airgun. Sub $1k is going to be hard to do, though my buddy swears by his Hatsan rifles. Claims they are very accurate out to 100+yds and they are typically under $1k.

My experience with a .30 Impact (probably 3 times your budget) is that when I'm on my game, it'll do sub MOA at 100yds and still has decent power out there. Did the AirgunDepot golf ball challenge at 175yds. Not easy, but not impossible either as I caught the shot on camera.

I would plan on something .30cal or bigger if you are going to focus on 100yds.

Here's my Impact. Deadly at 100yds.

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And an Edgun .177 that's tuned for field target and very good up to 50yds

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Both are way out of your budget. Take a look at the Hatsan Blitz .30, my buddy likes his a lot and it's in the sub $1k range. Specs on the .30 are kinda slow, might have better luck with the .25 if you were to choose this gun. **edit: My buddy has both and says the .30 is better. IDK.


 
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You may find that 75 yards is your max so take a box with you to the range to stick targets on. Like others have said, not only the wind but the slightest breeze is hell with an airguns. Doesn’t matter if it’s a $300 or $3,000 gun, the wind does not discriminate. If 75 or 80 yards is your 100 who cares. You are only there to impress yourself. The Gauntlet will be fine. Find out what it will do before you waste money on something that only shoots slightly better. If there is any kind of breeze, nobody truly knows how good their mega dollar airgun shoots at 100.
 
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