pcp compressors and shipping

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seems crazy that pcp air tank fillers as compressors break at such low hours and 2200 plus and they make you pay for the shipping to them as the costs well over 250 bucks with insurance wont name any names but they are in Arizona crazy that these things are just so crazy cheap i guess mi. great guy that fixes them ill say. just talked to my buddy who just got a daystate and very low hours and i think less than few months old its down and has to ship back on his dime also, ill never do anything with them again and haven't for some time
 
I hear yeah Douger less than 6 hrs on the daystate 110 volt compressor and back it goes to Arizona on my dime, followed all the steps outlined from them and it SHOULD give years of trouble free service! Well its just a 2100.00 plus shipping paper weight that I won't be able to trust in the future! Maybe my last dealings there also!!! And under warranty purchased last September!!!
 
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The Daystate 110 is a Coltri mch3 and they only put 3260 P.S.I. relief valves on them. Nuvair is also made by Coltri and they also are 3260. They are made for filling scuba tanks by individuals. Daystate has the 4500 valves put on and they eat the warranty, not Cooltri. Compressorstuff is the North American distributor for Colti and they don't sell them The owner said if you have one with a 4500 valve do not fill to 4500. The mch 6/ Daystate Type 2 is a good compressor that has been around for years The Alkin is golden. Roger Rogers,out?
 
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Thanks for the heads up gentlemen... my almost two year old Hatsan Lightning has half paid for itself in fills already. Very early on I felt it was working too hard to get those last 300-400 psi. So I only fill my SCBAs to about 4200 psi. My next Compressor will be my last, am saving up for one of the Akins...
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Hurray for the Lightning’s! Sure don’t see much talk about them these days regarding failure. Initially it got a bad rap due to two bad experiences. It just could never bounce back after those episodes. What I don’t get, is the Impacts have seen their share of rants, and to this day, the sales on them are still high. I don’t know why the Lightning couldn’t bounce back as a top recommendation to a guy wanting to get a compressor for the first time.

I sure miss mine. It’s in a great home. Even though I use the crap out of my Alkin there are times I wish I sill had it. With its auto purge and auto stop, and the way it purred along, it was a great entry level compressor a year into this hobby. I almost decided to keep both the Alain and the Lightning, but one or both wouldn’t get used enough, and not using them is not a good thing.

Would I ever buy one again? You bet, especially since I know how easy it is to fix.
 
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Sounds like a crock of crap, how long is this daystate thing gonna last?
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Relative to the duty cycle. 10 hours on mine. Coltri CE750 oil, measured in a beaker to 330mL. Light duty cycle, only filling 90 cu-in tanks to 4500 PSI top-off after first fill. 2 minute warm-up, 3-4 minutes actual compressing, 2 minute cool off.

I've long suspected the failures are a result of extended duty cycle attempting to reach 4500 PSI. I shoot off my front porch and have a 300+ yard range. Unlimited air means no need to fill SCBA tanks or large tanks. The two 90 cu-in tanks I have are plenty for 2+ hours of plinking. If I have friends/family over with their rifles it's as easy as taking a 10 minute break to refill a 90 cu-in tank.

It's all about sizing the load to the duty cycle, I believe. 90 cu-in @ 4500 PSI is a big difference than 98 cu-ft @ 4500 PSI from a work-load aspect. The time spent reaching 4500 PSI is significantly less. I believe keeping the duty cycle light keeps the wear down.
 
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Sounds like a crock of crap, how long is this daystate thing gonna last?
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Relative to the duty cycle. 10 hours on mine. Coltri CE750 oil, measured in a beaker to 330mL. Light duty cycle, only filling 90 cu-in tanks to 4500 PSI top-off after first fill. 2 minute warm-up, 3-4 minutes actual compressing, 2 minute cool off.

I've long suspected the failures are a result of extended duty cycle attempting to reach 4500 PSI. I shoot off my front porch and have a 300+ yard range. Unlimited air means no need to fill SCBA tanks or large tanks. The two 90 cu-in tanks I have are plenty for 2+ hours of plinking. If I have friends/family over with their rifles it's as easy as taking a 10 minute break to refill a 90 cu-in tank.

It's all about sizing the load to the duty cycle, I believe. 90 cu-in @ 4500 PSI is a big difference than 98 cu-ft @ 4500 PSI from a work-load aspect. The time spent reaching 4500 PSI is significantly less. I believe keeping the duty cycle light keeps the wear down.
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+1 and do not use CE157. It came out in 2018 and is already off the market from Coltri. CE750 has been discontinued and been replaced by CE100,not because of wear issues,but for better breathing air. CE755 is what Coltri recommends for paintball and PCP 
 
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That's $21 for a half-liter, so actually a few dollars more :)

I figure $40 for 1 liter is 3 oil changes at 330mL each with ~10mL left over. I plan to change the oil every 20 hours. So by the time I use up a $40 jug it'll have nearly 75 hours on it. Not too shabby for ROI

Edit: I missed the discount part on the page, woot. Thanks for that link! 4 half liters for $60 after the discount!

Edit1: WOW, they kill you on shipping


 
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Thanks for the heads up gentlemen... my almost two year old Hatsan Lightning has half paid for itself in fills already. Very early on I felt it was working too hard to get those last 300-400 psi. So I only fill my SCBAs to about 4200 psi. My next Compressor will be my last, am saving up for one of the Akins...
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Hurray for the Lightning’s! Sure don’t see much talk about them these days regarding failure. Initially it got a bad rap due to two bad experiences. It just could never bounce back after those episodes. What I don’t get, is the Impacts have seen their share of rants, and to this day, the sales on them are still high. I don’t know why the Lightning couldn’t bounce back as a top recommendation to a guy wanting to get a compressor for the first time.

I sure miss mine. It’s in a great home. Even though I use the crap out of my Alkin there are times I wish I sill had it. With its auto purge and auto stop, and the way it purred along, it was a great entry level compressor a year into this hobby. I almost decided to keep both the Alain and the Lightning, but one or both wouldn’t get used enough, and not using them is not a good thing.

Would I ever buy one again? You bet, especially since I know how easy it is to fix.
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That’s a great recommendation for the Lightning. That will be the compressor I buy. Thanks!
 
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That's $21 for a half-liter, so actually a few dollars more :)

I figure $40 for 1 liter is 3 oil changes at 330mL each with ~10mL left over. I plan to change the oil every 20 hours. So by the time I use up a $40 jug it'll have nearly 75 hours on it. Not too shabby for ROI

Edit: I missed the discount part on the page, woot. Thanks for that link! 4 half liters for $60 after the discount!

Edit1: WOW, they kill you on shipping
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When I got my compressor it came with an extra 1L bottle of CE750. So that's what I'll use until it's gone. They have newer formulations suitable for airgun use:

https://www.nuvair.com/products/parts-accessories/oil/nuvair-751.html

Shipping to my location in California is $17


 
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Makes sense, I'm on the other side of the country in the South East I guess. Same, I got my 1L of CE750 as well. On the fence about switching oils with 75 hrs of runtime...



Edit: ... and no longer on the fence. Ordered 4L of CE-750, $160 to the door, cheaper than AoA. Thank you for the savings! 5L of CE-750 with 3 changes per 1L every 20 hours should get me to 15 changes and 300 hours on the compressor.
 
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The Daystate 110 is a Coltri mch3 and they only put 3260 P.S.I. relief valves on them. Nuvair is also made by Coltri and they also are 3260. They are made for filling scuba tanks by individuals. Daystate has the 4500 valves put on and they eat the warranty, not Cooltri. Compressorstuff is the North American distributor for Colti and they don't sell them The owner said if you have one with a 4500 valve do not fill to 4500. The mch 6/ Daystate Type 2 is a good compressor that has been around for years The Alkin is golden. Roger Rogers,out?
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I think that was true in the past for the MCH3, but it is now listed as being available with the 300bar/4351psi safety valve.

The MCH3 is a 3 stage compressor.

The MCH6 is a 4 stage compressor.
 
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