Over 1000+ FPE with the AirForce Texan! (Helium Assisted with AAO Super Valve)

HOLY CRAP - THE FOOT POUNDS OF ENERGY! CHECK IT OUT! Shooting my AirForce Texan .45 @ 1000+ Foot Pounds of Energy! More testing with the African Air Ordnance Super Valve - watch here: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iD5xbHpTHo

The AirForce Airguns Texan .45 is an awesome big bore airgun with a MASSIVE amount of energy even in its stock straight from the factory form. But how far can this platform get pushed in preparation for the upcoming White Tail Deer hunting season here in Michigan?

So why am I doing this? It isn't just for bragging rights. There are legitimate and practical reasons why I am choosing to see how far I can push the AirForce Texan platform. If you ask any firearm / powder burner hunter you will hear this common (yet entirely wrong) stat that to ethically deer hunt you need 1000+ foot pound of energy (FPE) from your gun. That makes no sense since there are archery hunters (often the same hunters spewing the 1000+ FPE nonsense) that hunt with bows and crossbows shooting around 100 FPE.

Where they have a point though is when you consider shot placement. When you are deer hunting with a big bore airgun you need to be taking shots with archery like placement. Behind the shoulder in the heart area and rearward to try and get a double lung shot but avoiding the shoulder blade.

But what about all those high shoulder shots you see powder burners take where the deer just crumbles in place and doesn't take a single step. Well - with that kind of shot you need to be sure your gun can break through not only one - but BOTH shoulder blades.

With stock airgun technology out there these days most big bore guns are in the 200-300 FPE range with the exception of a few like the AirForce Texan and (soon to be) Umarex Hammer that can get into the 500-700 FPE range in straight from the factory stock configuration. But what if you could take these guns into the 700 over 1000 FPE range? With power like that - you can start thinking about taking the highly effective high shoulder shot 50 yards and closer. That is a game changer for airgunners.

With this testing I have proven that the AirForce Texan platform still has the potential to be considered the most powerful big bore airgun in the world. These aren't just stats to show off - these numbers have practical hunting applications. Stay tuned for more big bore airgun hunting information as we get closer to the 2018 Michigan Deer season opening day.
 
Chris that is some amazing stuff right there! I have been following the helium game for quite some time and it is to air guns what nitrous oxide is to the world of horse power.

I do however believe this is the kind of stuff that screams regulation and our industry will give up a lot of currently held freedoms when it happens. Of our 50 states 24 have some sort of non powder regulations that affect air guns and of those 24, 10 require the purchaser or users to either be 18 or in the company of an 18 year old.

These freedoms, these very loose and non restrictive air gun policies (for most states) are in serious danger if air gunners continue to ring the bell for hunting big game or cheering on the development and production of extreme energy producing air rifles.

Please do not take this as an attack on Chris or anyone else that is trying to find the limits, I am simply asking if we are aware and prepared for the attention it will most certainly draw.
 
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I think it is awesome that people can fine tune something and get the most out of it but I agree with Hajimoto also. Pretty soon we wont be able to get our airguns shipped to us. We will have to have it sent to a dealer. It is coming anyway, but all this power is going to make it happen faster. God forbid someone does something intentionally wrong with one of these airguns and things will happen even faster.
 
Haji - I get what you're saying. I get comments from time to time from airgunners in private messages and even in open forums jumping all over the industry for going the big bore route or advocating for pro-airgun hunting laws to law makers and they worried about over-regulation or ANY kind of regulation. I understand those concerns but.... To invoke the views of Founding Father - John Adams - we are a "nation of laws, not men." I am not trying to be overly academic, but to make a point that hiding in the shadows in the hopes that jurisdictions having authority (municipal, county, state, or federal) will not notice us is a fool's game.

I entered into this sport from a different trajectory than most. I came into it as a deer hunter and even though I dabble in the smaller calibers and paper punching (and the occasional AirGunDepot.com Long Ranger Golf Ball) it was the big bore stuff that got me into this in a big way. What I noticed right away was that regulations and laws that were in place all over the country were muddy at best and in most cases - non-existent. Not just for hunting - but for airgun use at all.

I have heard from so many airgunners that they don't want ANY laws that even breathe the name of airguns in the hopes that somehow protects them. I tend to see it through a different filter that if you don't have laws in place that PROTECT your use of these devices and how we as airgunners choose to use them - there in lies the greater risk. No matter if the subject is airgun suppressors or airgun ownership by convicted felons or hunting applications or even where you can shoot your airgun - there is an overly misguided mantra within the airgunner community to think that somehow the absence of laws or mention in regulations somehow protects us. The word FREEDOM isn't even in the original text of the Constitution and it took AMENDMENTS to the Constitution to ensure later identified freedoms were protected.

These are just datasets and numbers that I have posted in the form of a video - I will tell you first hand after many conversations with Wildlife officials and Wildlife law enforcement what IS GETTING THE ATTENTION of law makers and the general public is the volumes of video content online showing the dispatch and harvesting of animals. For us airgunners that online content to date is mostly small game and pests - but man there is a TON of video out there showcasing what our airguns can do across the entire caliber spectrum.

Here is a visual example.... Show a misinformed Mrs. Jane Q. Public a video of a .45 hollowpoint airgun slug shooting through a chronograph displaying 965 FPS and she won't understand what she is seeing. Then show her a video of a chipmunk exploding from a .25 pellet and tell me which one is going to have her running to her elected officials demanding a change in laws. Just think about that for a second.

That is why I am involved with the Airgun Sporting Association (www.airgunsporting.org) to help ensure that if and when a lawmaking body does take notice about the growth of adoption of airguns or we want to ensure our legal use of these devices for hunting and other sporting uses - WE are at that table and not some misguided talking head spewing misinformation. Good conversation to have - because if we want to protect our sporting use of airguns - we need to have a unified voice....
 
I also wanted to make sure I clarified my message here... After talking with Haji on the phone after I posted a response, I realized I might have sounded like I was calling him out for his hunting efforts with pests. That is not at all what I was trying to say and I am a HUGE fan of his and his work helping push our industry forward. I think what we were both trying to say was are we ready as a community of airgunners with a unified message across all of our niche areas within the airgunning community when law makers decide to step in at some point to try and regulate our sport. This is a really important conversation to have and I urge everyone to get in contact with Mitch King President of the Airgun Sporting Association (www.airgunsporting.org) as he has the proper tools and language we need to be using when talking with these agencies and officials. I have seen first hand failed attempts in other states when airgunners try to go it alone. If you haven't read up on the ASA or Mitch King - check out this article recently published on Hard Air: https://hardairmagazine.com/features/ham-talks-to-j-mitch-king-president-and-ceo-of-the-airgun-sporting-association/
 
We have amongst us in this nation plenty of aspiring dictators, socialist and communist leaders in every level of government from school boards on up. They already take every right they can ... right down to what size soft drink you should have the right to order at a restaurant. Airgun regs in Canada and Britain suggest anything more potent than a dime-store slingshot is a firearm in their eyes. I think it's safe to say we are already on the radar. Running in fear will or hoping to remain irrelevant is not a viable long-term strategy but instead is a passive admission that we should be regulated even though we hope to avoid it as long as possible.

I'm not sure muzzle energy has much to do with it either. Right now airguns are not regulated in Kalifornia, while at the same time blow-guns are outlawed (go figure). A Bad Bull muzzle loader can generate 6000 fpe yet is also outside ffl requirements. So as for my somewhat speculative opinion, I believe the more mainstream airguns become in the hunting community the larger the political muscle it will develop - and that is our greatest defense of what little freedom we have left. In the larger scheme it seems to me big-bore airgun hunting may offer us more hope than fear.

Tim
 
I dont think anyone thought you were calling him out. We know your a good guy and excited about your accomplishments. I think it is awesome. I love that airguns are becoming more popular and mainstream and so easy to get. But the selfish part of me gets nervous that the cat is out of the bag now. (not because of you!) I fear the more we are known and recognized, the faster "THEY" will get involved and make it difficult for us. But I think like others have stated it has already happened and we must band together to make sure they dont over regulate. Good thing for forums like this so we have a worldwide connection. Have a great day.