Operation Face Mask Go Fund Me

why would we give money for masks when the State, Cities or Hospitals have plenty of money to buy there own 

there not a shortage of money but all the idiots around the country went out and bought them all up 

the shortage is not money but product 

all the money in the world will not solve this shortage but some damn organization could i see none of that from where we need it 

i live in Washington state and we have a good organization but because of high usage things are in short supply 

I was thinking about the same. Say they make a couple hundred thousand, do they get donated or sold (at today's prices)? I'll support the first if they can beat the main suppliers, seems unlikely. The capacity seems to be in place, just not enough product in the market yet. No one was ramped up for this demand.

My daughter is a nurse and said the problem is, the masks that are available don't do any good. They need a special mask (can't recall it's designation) and they are only good for 8 hours.

The nurses were given this type of mask and told NOT to throw it away after the 8 hours because they may not be able to replace them. The masks are somewhat fitted as they have specific sizes and the user must be measured for their mask. The mask people are wearing in public do nothing for them because they are not airtight. 

If they cannot make these types of masks, they are wasting their time and everyone's money.

This could come back to bite us in the behind. If the public think they can go to Harbor Freight and buy a box of masks to make it safe to travel, they will be contributing to the problem.

My daughter is a nurse and said the problem is, the masks that are available don't do any good. They need a special mask (can't recall it's designation) and they are only good for 8 hours.

The nurses were given this type of mask and told NOT to throw it away after the 8 hours because they may not be able to replace them. The masks are somewhat fitted as they have specific sizes and the user must be measured for their mask. The mask people are wearing in public do nothing for them because they are not airtight. 

If they cannot make these types of masks, they are wasting their time and everyone's money.

This could come back to bite us in the behind. If the public think they can go to Harbor Freight and buy a box of masks to make it safe to travel, they will be contributing to the problem.

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CEA 1960:

You are mentioning "special masks"...These masks you are referring are the N95 surgical masks.

N95 face protectors/masks work well for covid19 but any other mask capable of trapping .125 micron particles will work as well...

Masks need to cover the INPUTS to your breathing system, meaning nostrils and mouth and don't need to be air tight. The virus doesn't walk anywhere, it gets into your mucus system airborne though the mouth, nostrils and mucus in your eyes and it reproduces itself in your throat and on the back of your nasal cavity; then when it is strong enough it attacks your lungs creating fibrosis which collapses your air sacs...This is why all the parts of your body that touch surfaces or are exposed to contamination need to be frequently washed...

Wash your hands frequently but take a bath and change your clothes whenever you get back home and disinfect anything you bring from outside your home, this virus showed today that it can survive 17 days or more on many porous and non porous surfaces (Today authorities found virus alive on many areas of the Diamond Princess cruise ship after being moored and fully vacated 17 days ago).

It is a CORONA virus similar to the Flu virus which is also corona shaped...The difference between Flu and Covid19 is the MUTATION and LETHALITY, we know the lethality for covid19 is about 3.5% vs .1% (in the US) form the flu...So it is much more lethal.

Masks can be reused and are actually being reused...Hospitals, doctors and health care users are being forced to spraying the frontal area of their masks with a mist of alcohol for killing the virus because there is a shortage of masks all over the US.

Best regards,

AZ

PS. Please look at the size of the particles needed to be filtrated and PLEASE beware of the multiple "Fund Me" and other SCAMS out there.

This is what I’m wearing! No joke we have to get fit tested yearly! May not work for viruses? But does for particulates

Hi Nomojo65:

That mask of yours is a RESPIRATOR with similar functionality as surgical respirators N95, N98 and N100...Check the cartridge(s) specs to make sure they can stop particles .1 microns (The size of covid19)...

While your mask is not designed for hospitals I believe it will function well for the virus because it is designed for fumes, gases and mists and the atoms and molecules in gases are measured in Nanometers (1000 times smaller than a micron). I am pretty sure it has the correct cartridge specs to stop the covid19 but please double check those specs as well as the expiration date on the cartridge(s) just to be on the safe side.

You take care...

Best regards,

AZ

Wash your hands frequently but take a bath and change your clothes whenever you get back home and disinfect anything you bring from outside your home, this virus showed today that it can survive 17 days or more on many porous and non porous surfaces (Today authorities found virus alive on many areas of the Diamond Princess cruise ship after being moored and fully vacated 17 days ago).

It is a CORONA virus similar to the Flu virus which is also corona shaped...The difference between Flu and Covid19 is the MUTATION and LETHALITY, we know the lethality for covid19 is about 3.5% vs .1% (in the US) form the flu...So it is much more lethal.

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Emphasis added thanks for the heads up on the 17 days. Scary business that little tidbit. I did take the time to confirm your info.

Thanks azauro, we are issued these where I work, may look like overkill but It’s available to me! our state is in lockdown, “if you can call it that!” but I must work, everyone please stay safe! “Good luck at the nationals if you’re going?”

This is a point of curiosity I've had actually for some time: where exactly are all these various "donations" going? And might they really just be "donations" to fill slack machine time and pad the pockets of the various "good samaritan" companies? Take the above-linked gofundme as a prime example:

"Our companies are U.S.-based cut & sew operations that have the ability to make a simple, non-medical-grade face mask to assist these incredible individuals.

This face mask is not considered Personal Protection Equipment, and is only meant to be used as a last resort in the absence of proper PPE, according to CDC guidelines. As follows:"

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Well what good is that, honestly? Based on their description and photography, this is akin to wrapping a bandanna over your face, in a place where the medical personnel really need NBC level gear to protect themselves from the immense viral load to which they're exposed. And who exactly is going to accept these donations? They mention nothing about any medical facility that actually wants this stuff. They'd be vastly more likely to try to re-sterilize certified equipment than wear a non-certified cloth mask as a last resort. 

Meanwhile there are actual organizations trying to coordinate capabilities and materials with medical staff:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmYFsiH9-t_qyuUWmbDIgzX6h9bUZEkE_Jc6e2CD2aYm7_aQ/viewform

Maybe it is harsh or uncharitable of me to say, but as someone with a background in biotech and manufacturing I have two overall points on this:
1) Let the hospitals solicit what they want. The healtchare industry itself is drowning in regulation and bureaucracy, unless you're providing exactly what they specify, they almost certainly won't be willing to touch it. It is part of why we're only hearing about this "desperate" ramp for equipment now, as they were largely unwilling to exit their existing supply chains until they were practically out of gear. (many still aren't) This is just how the industry works. 
2) They can and will pay for good gear just as they expect patients to pay for the services rendered. Believe me, if they really want it, they will pay for it. You won't need to set up a go-fund-me if you're able to manufacture medical goods hospitals need. If they won't pay for it, they probably see it as third-rate, and may accept it to avoid causing offense but it will not be used. Remember they're not treating people for free. Take that blood you donate to the American Red Cross, that isn't donated to people in need, they sell that to hospitals who in turn charge patients for it. Virtually nothing actually used in the medical supply chain is actually free. 



I realize times are tough, and we all want to reach out and help, and that is a good thing. But it is equally as important that we focus our efforts and charity on things which will actually help. It is also important to keep an eye out for opportunists, people who want to take advantage of this outpouring of good will. I can't say with any certainty what the above go-fund-me is, but the lack of any affiliated medical organization guiding their efforts should be a big red flag that this probably isn't a good use of time or resources. 

I hope that is fair and makes sense, even though may not be the most optimistic/supportive response. 

I could be wrong but isn't some protection better than none? Even lesser facemasks and covers will deter you from touching your face. And if you're near someone coughing won't a facemask reduce the amount of air that is pulled toward your face. Like breathing shallow instead of being like a vacuum. ?????

didn't you see AG Burr. warned all the hoarders that a knock will come @ their door!

2 hrs later SEIU "found" 39 MILLION MASKS!!!! `

IMAGINE THAT! 

I've read that the shortage problem with the N95 mask is not about money but with supply. Just like across the country, toilet paper is hard to get because everyone is hoarding. Hospitals are doing the same thing. The hospital supervisors, janitors, doctors, nurses, drivers, and even patients are hoarding masks and are not sharing what they have with other hospitals who are the ones who really need the masks

The New Mexico State Board is requiring dentists to report all PPE such as masks, gloves, and gowns in their office.

Wow!!

Good news with regards to the sterilization of these masks in use:

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200329/coronavirus-fda-provides-full-ok-for-battelle-mask-sterilizing-technology