Okay what's the deal with the Hatsan Sortie

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steve123

steve123

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I'm considering buying one while they are on sale. Not expecting any super accuracy just hoping it's mostly reliable. I like the folding stock version, semiauto, and comes with RD, just a fun plinker is what I'm after.

Seen some videos and saw a few post here on AGN.

Tell us the goods and bads please, and "would you buy one again as you look back"???

Warranty service, how'd that go with you?

I have less than 2 days to decide which is when the sale ends.

Thanks


 
I think I got a real early model. I've done some pretty serious mods to mine that make life a lot harder for it. So, I have broken some parts. Good news is the parts I got from Hatsan were better made and stronger than the parts I took out. 



Unfortunately, my experience isn't really relevant. Because I never really did any amount of shooting without the gun being seriously modified. But I do have faith that the newer parts for them would yield the gun absolutely reliable. 



I can say, unregulated, the consistency in velocity is very impressive. As is the accuracy.



I raised the gas piston operating pressure, force, and speed. Because mine has a moderator, the action has to fight and overcome the huge amount of back pressure the moderator creates. 



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I had one a couple of years ago. Worst and most frustrating airgun I've ever owned. Back to Hatsan twice to get it working and cycling and both times it came back not cycling smoothly. I tried all types of fill pressures between 2000-3000 psi and it would still never cycle more than 1 or 2 times before hanging. Mine eventually ended up in the trash. Highly doubt I will buy another Hatsan after my experience.
 
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Thanks rangur1, that's enough testimony for me, as of right now. 

I'm officially calling this pistol The Sorta, instead of Sortie. I'd put an lol at the end of the sentence but it's "NOT FUNNY".

The crap I've gone through trying to find a reliable semiauto is a bit insane!

I paid $1600 for a FX revolution that was a total disaster so I feel you pain!

I've had 4, well actually 5, because I took one back in exchange for one of the same kind, semi auto/full auto BB guns which "ALL" broke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Ct, and to think I would have paid $2500+ for that Steyr ProX. Ha, I bought a cool E-mountain bike instead once I found out Krale wasn't sending them to the US.

I wish these Co's would get their SH!T together!
 
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I have two Sorties. Even imported one from Spain because I wanted the wood stock version. The other one was a refurbished one from Hatsan. They would dry fire semi auto but the bolts would not retract enough to allow the magazine to rotate. Two trips to HatsanUSA did not solve the feed problem although they said it did. I like to take things apart and analyze them so I started on the 0.25 one. I found that there are two springs one can adjust. The hammer spring (clockwise reduces tension) and the reloading spring at the muzzle. The tension on both of these springs effect how far the bolt will retract. I have gotten the 0.25 to operate fairly well by adjusting these springs but it works only at 100 - 120 bar which gives a lower velocity. I am still in the middle of working with them and am enjoying the challenge. 
 
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I have two Sorties. Even imported one from Spain because I wanted the wood stock version. The other one was a refurbished one from Hatsan. They would dry fire semi auto but the bolts would not retract enough to allow the magazine to rotate. Two trips to HatsanUSA did not solve the feed problem although they said it did. I like to take things apart and analyze them so I started on the 0.25 one. I found that there are two springs one can adjust. The hammer spring (clockwise reduces tension) and the reloading spring at the muzzle. The tension on both of these springs effect how far the bolt will retract. I have gotten the 0.25 to operate fairly well by adjusting these springs but it works only at 100 - 120 bar which gives a lower velocity. I am still in the middle of working with them and am enjoying the challenge.
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Man I wish I was a handy guy and enjoyed these sort of challenges!

What ends up happening to me most often is I either lose $ and have a broken gun in a cardboard box that sits there for years, or I pay a GS to try to fix the problems. 

It's funny when I think about it because I have more than a few 22rf semiauto's and all I have to do is load them in the truck and drive for 10 minutes to shoot them???!!! But I have this nagging desire for a nice/reliable, and reasonably accurate, 12ish ftlb semiauto PCP. 


 
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Hi Calusa, the only information I have found on the Sortie is a parts diagram. The diagram does not give a parts number or price. You have to contact Hatsan for the price. After you get the price and send payment Hatsan is quick to send you the part. I am learning about the Sortie only by taking it apart and testing modifications to get it to work. If you enjoy trying to get a gun to work the Sortie is for you.
 
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I own a refurbished Sortie .177 had it for a year and experienced magazine cycling problems twice but simply adjusted the hammer spring which fixed it. I've shot over 1500 Air Arms 10.3 grain field heavy Diabolo pellets using a Feyachi reflex sight.

I recently purchased a tactical stock from Hatsan which makes shooting the Sortie more stable and greatly improves accuracy.

The regular model is a bit heavy and bulky in pistol form, trigger is stiff but not a deal breaker.

I recommend buying the tactical model, the Tactical Sortie is a pretty good shooter, accurate and quiet too.
 
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