Of times gone by,peep sights and slings,

I can appreciate this post. One of my first posts on this site had to do with rifle slings and using them to steady a Benjamin Bulldog. I still shoot offhand so I can relate. 

I can remember a time before bipods, tripods, and portable shooting benches when you actually had to stand up straight and shoot without without such aids. Now they even have portable shooting benches built into tree stands. The only things you had to help you before were a sling and what was around you such as leaning up against a tree.

I still use slings on powder burners as well as iron and peep sights. I always preferred to keep it simple. I really need to try a sling on one of my air rifles.

It's a nice change of pace sometimes for sure. I love a good aperture sight setup.

I dug up an old "ARH" stamped Williams from Robert Law's Air Rifle Headquarters way back in the day. I made a custom aperture for it the size and hole diameter I like. I made an extra with a larger hole, that I keep in my pocket and swap in as light starts to fade. Makes for a pretty nifty setup and the lightweight rig is nice for those extra long treks in the field (my favorite). 

I don't particularly care for the FWB 124 as a platform, but after some fairly serious work it's made a decent shooting 11fpe killin' machine. 

How about a peep sighted HW100? Barrel from a FWB124 with the FWB front sight still attached. And sling swivels of course: 

HW77K MK2 with a Williams Guide Sight and sling mounts. Another handy hunter: 

HW50S in lightweight peep sight mode: 

You guys are making me wanting to bust out the old challenger with peep sight. Hummm........

Last one. This is a permanent aperture sight rig. It was quite the quest to finally score a proper HW 13mm diopter for it. I still need to make a new aperture for it with a "hunting sized" hole in it. This one is TINY. Now just need to drill the stock for a sling stud and put a band on the barrel

thumper, those are some nice set ups. Have you had any problems with the point of impact being to high? I've often heard of the peep sight not able to be lowered enough on spring guns leaving the point of impact to high. I tried looking for a higher front sight insert for my HW95 but couldn't find one.

Also do you need a stop pin for the peep sight?

How about a peep sighted HW100? Barrel from a FWB124 with the FWB front sight still attached. And sling swivels of course: 

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Oh my. I like this a lot. 

Here is my HW50



I've wondered if there's a proper way to use a sling to steady the rifle with a break barrel... HW attaches the sling to the barrel on the HW50 hunter. It seems stabilizing the gun like this would alter POI? I've wanted to add one to mine. 

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Dallas, it's certainly possible that using a sling will change POI, regardless of how it is attached. I think it depends on how you use it. Even with service rifles, where the slings are attached in a very robust manner, POI is usually changed. But, those slings are usually under considerable tension when in position. And POI may change with different positions too. So, as service rifle shooters learn, the sling is an absolute requirement for best performance. But, it's another variable to manage also. The few times I've shot a PCP rifle from position, with a sling, I did not see a problematic shift in POI. But I was not slung nearly as tight as in service rifle. Also, the sling tension changes POI because it affects how the rifle moves in recoil, of which there is very little with a PCP. 

thumper, those are some nice set ups. Have you had any problems with the point of impact being to high? I've often heard of the peep sight not able to be lowered enough on spring guns leaving the point of impact to high. I tried looking for a higher front sight insert for my HW95 but couldn't find one.

Also do you need a stop pin for the peep sight?

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I have never had trouble with one not going low enough and leaving the POI too high. I've had them run out of elevation trying to move the POI up, but only with the little "guide sight" and not the typical FP-GR types that most guys use. 

If you need one that's lower, try the WGRS-54. Its low and small, and fits over the dovetails and secures with a single set screw. I've used them on a lot of Weihrauchs, but it won't go high enough if there is any barrel droop. I just bend the barrel into proper alignment to rectify that. I like these better because they are more low profile and cheaper. 

https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/wgrssavage-54-001481

I've never needed a stop pin. I think the sight is so lightweight that it just doesnt tend to move. YMMV though

Thanks thumper.

I've been thinking about trying a peep sight on one of my airguns, most of mine are springers. But I wonder if a sling would "mess up" the way I've learned to hold an airrifle?