I saw to 2 Youtube videos about a new product called O-Ring Delete for Air Venturi Avengers .22 and .25. Anyone know anything about these? Claims to improve on factory probe seals. They look to be made of polyurethane but.......
O-Ring Delete kits/Youtube videos for Air Venturi Avenger
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Does "O -Ring Delete" mean eliminating O rings?
Why not post links to the videos so we can see the details, please?
Ed
Why not post links to the videos so we can see the details, please?
Ed
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Last night I watched a video by the seller and it is a segment of elastomer tubing used in place of the O-ring on the bolt. I think I heard him say somewhere along the way that it is polyurethane. I’m not 100% sure he used the word but the color suggested polyurethane and its mechanical properties (tear resistance and abrasion resistance) make it a preferred material for this purpose.
He claims an O-ring just does not last for long before it gets chewed up but he does not go into detail as to why that is. Is it the wrong size, wrong material, wrong durometer, sharp edges on the magazine, roughness of the leade, etc.?
I don’t have an Avenger so I can’t comment from experience but I’ve read a number of threads about it and don’t remember seeing a lot of complaints. To whatever extent it is a problem, there are many ways to deal with it if you know what you’re doing but if this guy’s solution works, it may well be worth the price to sidestep whatever knowledge or smithing skills one may lack, or to avoid the potential time and cost to remedy it oneself.
He claims an O-ring just does not last for long before it gets chewed up but he does not go into detail as to why that is. Is it the wrong size, wrong material, wrong durometer, sharp edges on the magazine, roughness of the leade, etc.?
I don’t have an Avenger so I can’t comment from experience but I’ve read a number of threads about it and don’t remember seeing a lot of complaints. To whatever extent it is a problem, there are many ways to deal with it if you know what you’re doing but if this guy’s solution works, it may well be worth the price to sidestep whatever knowledge or smithing skills one may lack, or to avoid the potential time and cost to remedy it oneself.
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Hey there,
I watched the same video and from what I can tell, the pellet probe alignment and the fit and finish on the breech are what cause the o rings to experience abrasion. Similar to when you tear down a PCP and you have to be careful sliding the parts back together and make sure the lube them with silicone. The pellet probe rings experience a lot of repetitive use and can eventually get scalped. I think the surgical tubing is a great idea. I just received mine and am going to try it out soon. He says it was not only a fix for longevity but also improved the seal and performance
I watched the same video and from what I can tell, the pellet probe alignment and the fit and finish on the breech are what cause the o rings to experience abrasion. Similar to when you tear down a PCP and you have to be careful sliding the parts back together and make sure the lube them with silicone. The pellet probe rings experience a lot of repetitive use and can eventually get scalped. I think the surgical tubing is a great idea. I just received mine and am going to try it out soon. He says it was not only a fix for longevity but also improved the seal and performance
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Please let me know how it works! I have a .22 Avenger and Im always looking to improve air efficiency and accuracy.
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Sorry for not responding to your request. Simply go to You tube and search O ring Delete videos. I think there are 3 now. None are high quality reviews but, I think, one gives how to contact the seller.
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My O-rings still seem good on my 25 caliber. I've only put a few hundred shots through it, however. A little silicone grease on the O-rings helps, I think. It also came with a couple extras and I have since purchased a pretty good sized set of o-rings. I don't currently see a need for a replacement that may or may not work better.
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The O-ring delete kit replaces the 2 O-rings. The probe on the avenger has some play in it, therefore wares out the 2 o- rings faster . the O-ring delete kit has a one long piece of tougher material , it also seals better then the stock 2- O-ring setup. There is also a probe bumper kit, some times the probe drags across the skirt of the pellet causing damage to the pellet while still in the mag this eliminates this. i have both of these on my avenger 25 cal and i can say they have made improvements in accuracy and air sealed around O-ring delete kit. Not only is this man smart, he's one hell of a shot.
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I was playing around wit silicone aquarium air tubing myself but it wasn't wear resistant enough. Looks to me that this has already been solved. Great but I'm afraid I didn't get the necessary information to order a few for myself. Can someone post it here so I can make the upgrade please.
Spin long time air gun fan and owner of both 22 and 25 cal Avengers and lovin it!
Spin long time air gun fan and owner of both 22 and 25 cal Avengers and lovin it!
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I think it’s better for me to stick with O-rings
YOU CAN BUY THEM HERE.........http://ebay.us/tsTJEt?cmpnId=5338273189
YOU CAN BUY THEM HERE.........http://ebay.us/tsTJEt?cmpnId=5338273189
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( cantshoot) DO YOU have any more info on what kind of tubing to get to replace pellet probe o rings on a avenger .25 cal? Want to buy some on amazon.
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It's Tygon 2.5mm x 5mm for .22 caliber. Cut to 4mm length. https://www.amazon.com/HIPA-10-Feet-Tubing-Chainsaw-Trimmer/dp/B00V9XS07C/ Enough to make 781 seals for $8 vs $10 for 1 seal.
I don't have .25 so I don't know that one.
I don't notice a difference in sound or accuracy but I'm sure it's better than o-rings on the pellet probe for longevity.
EDIT: I got dog piled by a couple of SJW Karens in another thread for suggesting people could save money. All their 1000s of hours in R&D being stolen and ethics and such even though there is no patent. They payed $150 for a 3d printed magazine.
I don't have .25 so I don't know that one.
I don't notice a difference in sound or accuracy but I'm sure it's better than o-rings on the pellet probe for longevity.
EDIT: I got dog piled by a couple of SJW Karens in another thread for suggesting people could save money. All their 1000s of hours in R&D being stolen and ethics and such even though there is no patent. They payed $150 for a 3d printed magazine.
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I did this on my Umarex Origin. Bought the kit and discovered I had over a foot of the stuff myself. It's worked great so far.
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How about replacing barrel orings inside the barrel?
Would heat shrink tubing work? Seems getting it through the magazine would be an obstacal.
Just wondering,
Roachcreek
Would heat shrink tubing work? Seems getting it through the magazine would be an obstacal.
Just wondering,
Roachcreek
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I bought the O ring delete kit from STKO (shoot to kill outdoors) a couple of months ago. I didn't have a problem with the O rings, but his video made sense. I installed it (took less than a minute) and it works fine although I don't notice it being more air efficient or more accurate.
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