NSA, rat sniper or fx?

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    mtnGhost
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    Thanks for comprehensive insight @nielsenammo 👍

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    kkarmical
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    mtnGhost

    Thanks for comprehensive insight @nielsenammo 👍

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    And for keeping it 💯..

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    edosan
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    Those look nice! huge hollow base!  

    @edosan Did you make those?  They look like they will do the job well and fly nicely getting there!

    No…those are Griffins on Ebay. Mega Cup Base (easier to make with the right butt pin, different than those Hybrids we are talking about)

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    Bottom line is we should be happy FX has brought back this product and made it commercially available.  They are a good slug design and have a place in the market but will also cost more because they are much harder and more expensive to produce.  It is nice to have a variety of slugs to shoot and choose from and different price points to allow as many people as possible to get into slug shooting.  Also keep in mind I stopped making hybrids because at the time I did it all by hand and did not have high speed equipment to make them.  Looking forward to see what 2020 brings.

    You are a Gentleman Nick, thanks for that writing and totally agree! 

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    biohazardman
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    Nick I thank you as well I saw several similar designs over the years and was a bit confused.  It's good to know why I was confused.

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    Here’s where I got the stuff about the patent. This is Michael of AGN’s post, quoting Michael of Rat Sniper, just so you don’t think I was making stuff up…

    From the mouth of Rat Sniper Mike himself 

    "As you all know by now, the FX Hybrids are out! Rat Sniper Slugs has teamed up with a local bullet manufacturing company that currently manufactures some of the best match pistol bullets on the planet. Their top machine technician is the one running the high speed machines. We had to have custom machines built to be able to produce this design… it's a much more involved manufacturing process than what it takes to produce a simple hollowpoint.
    I have teamed up with FX to utilize their worldwide dealer network and will no longer sell direct. I am manufacturing these exclusively for FX. Just to squash any rumors FX in no way backed me to aquire the machines – it's something I did on my own. I still have full rights over my patent pending hollow core design and I'm directly involved in the manufacturing of these…plus I'm the one packaging these
    People tend to forget about our Airgun dealers and it's important they have an opportunity to carry products without having to compete with the manufacturer selling direct too.
    If you want to use the highest performing airgun projectile on the planet contact your local dealer and give these a try"

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    Here’s where I got the stuff about the patent. This is Michael of AGN’s post, quoting Michael of Rat Sniper, just so you don’t think I was making stuff up…

     

    Never that my friend! The best post I have read in months.

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    stoti
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    Haha, you like that… Don’t want to be labeled a liar!!! Oh, you crack me up, I was just laughing my ass off!!! Thanks buddy!

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    nomojo65
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    All I can say is we are privileged to have such a honest, knowledgeable and dedicated manufacturer as nielsenammo providing products for Airgunners! 

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    Haha, you like that… Don’t want to be labeled a liar!!! Oh, you crack me up, I was just laughing my ass off!!! Thanks buddy!

    I like when wisdom and knowledge come together with a great explanation suck Nick made. Last post I recall like that was one talking about barrels, great knowledge there too!

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    stoti
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    Well said by both of you. Nick is a stand up guy, dedicated to our sport. We’re lucky to have him!

    Stoti

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    Dairyboy
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    NSA all the way!

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    Thanks for comprehensive insight @nielsenammo 👍

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    And for keeping it 💯..

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    I was looking at buying a corbin swage set to create some ultra light .30cal slugs for personal use and to experiment. Rat Sniper managed to get his 30cals down to 34gr, probably not the BEST bc or accuracy but maybe good enough for my needs.

     

    I like the new NSA “bulk” slugs better, the flatter hollow nose looks like it will be less prone to clog and will dump more energy. 

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     Nick is a stand up guy, dedicated to our sport. We’re lucky to have him!

    Stoti

    I tried to make that point as a side note in the thread I started https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/fx-producing-ratsniper-slugs/ saying we should be loyal to the man that made a big investment first to bring the price of slugs down… but then I got dog piled and labeled a hater somehow. I still don't understand why but it went sideways really fast and seemed to have some weird bias… very much like being attacked by the CCP.

     

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    Yeah, I agree. He brought the prices down like everybody wanted, he’s releasing new stuff all the time and he’s been very generous with a lot of us. Oh, and he's an air gunner through and through! The FX slugs may be great but we’ll have to see, up until this point, most of the reviews have been by sponsored shooters. I shot them a while back and liked them a lot but didn’t have any of Nicks new stuff to compare them with back then. Maybe they’ll be ground breaking?  Or, maybe it’s just great marketing? We’ll see.

    Stoti

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    GQ
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    Thank you Mr. Nielsen.

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    Jayson
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    Very clear and great timing! Love the 2020 foreshadowing!! Can’t wait!

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    I agree with @stoti regarding the FX hybrids. Does anyone actually think that If the label said “Rat Sniper” and we didn’t have all this FX fanboy spin from sponsored You Tubers there would be even 1/10 the buzz going through the internet?  Of course they may be the best thing since sliced bread, but that remains to be seen until we get subjective reports and comparisons to other brand slugs. For me, they would have to be Worlds better to pay 2.5 to 3 times the price of NSA slugs. I’m sure they’ll find their niche, but where that niche is has yet to be determined.

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    ..For me, they would have to be Worlds better to pay 2.5 to 3 times the price of NSA slugs. I’m sure they’ll find their niche, but where that niche is has yet to be determined…

    The only potential value proposition that I can see with the 22gr RS/FXH in 22 cal might be some expansion advantages, the BC is the same as the NSA 23gr – so there's no advantages there. I can probably see them being a little more interesting in .35, but that's niche in its own right.

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    After testing Nick's .22 and .25 FB and DB-HPs terminal performance, I can firmly say he will continue to have great success. Fx will also have great success. More options for us gunners is a win win on all fronts. Cheers and Happy Hunting!!

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