No semi auto gun in EBR Speed Silhouette?

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texagdds

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In looking at the results of the 2017 Outdoor Speed Silhouette, I was surprised that no one opted to use a semi auto like the Hatsan barrage/Bullmaster in the open division.

Rules state :
  • Semi-automatic airguns are allowed
http://www.extremebenchrest.com/outdoor-silhouette-rules/

Seems that would have been a major advantage. I wonder was it due to accuracy or availability issues (like they didn’t have one yet)?
 
I think the reason Impacts dominate is that their magazine holds enough that they do not need to reload... So the time it takes to cycle the magazine is miniscule compared to the time it takes to aim and shoot. Top 3 were FX, 1 and 3 were Impacts, 2 was Revolution. I do agree though that a truly skilled shooter with a semi auto would clean house every time... If you look at the guys that shoot Steel Challenge with their semi auto handguns you'll see what I mean by world class shooters. :)

https://youtu.be/mpUdIrQrvWI
 
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"texagdds"Good catch Centercut. Didn't see that. I guess I was naive to the money/sponsorship side of it too. For some reason I thought it was about shooting whatever you wanted, not what brands were associated with sponsorship, but I get it. Man's got to make a living.
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This is a non productive & antagonistic comment. The competition is open to all shooters & all airguns. 

Last year I saw a few FX Revo's, an Evanix with side-by-side magazines, & a Huben.



 
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My sincere apologies - it wasn’t meant to be either. I’ve never been to the event - hence my confusion. I’m honestly trying to figure out whether the semi autos aren’t winning because of accuracy issues and why the top shooters choose not to use them (sponsorship or otherwise). Like I said, I’m fine with whatever the answer is, it just seems counterintuitive to choose a non semi auto gun for anything other than accuracy. I genuinely want to learn - that’s why I’m on this site, because the members seem to know more than any other group. 
 
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"Centercut"I think the reason Impacts dominate is that their magazine holds enough that they do not need to reload... So the time it takes to cycle the magazine is miniscule compared to the time it takes to aim and shoot. Top 3 were FX, 1 and 3 were Impacts, 2 was Revolution. I do agree though that an experienced shooter with a semi auto would clean house every time... If you look at the guys that shoot Steel Challenge with their semi auto handguns you'll see what I mean by experienced shooters. :)
https://youtu.be/mpUdIrQrvWI
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To further clarify- centercut said,”I think the reason Impacts dominate is that their magazine holds enough that they do not need to reload”

i hadn’t thought of that. If there is more targets than what the magazine holds, I could see that as a limiting factor. Does anyone know how many targets are presented?

Again, my apologies for ruffling feathers, it was a case of too many thoughts with not enough context... a lazy product of typing on a phone rather than a computer. 
 
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16 targets. FX Impact aftermarket high capacity mags are over 25. Can miss half and still not reload. I still think with a skilled shooter, he would do better with a semi auto as long as it held at least 19 shots like the Huben. Yes, Joe B used a Huben, but he’s not at the same skill level as Ted, Matt, or Tom. I may get hammered for suggesting this, but shooters like Ted, Tom and Matt are very good, but not world class like the Steel Challenge shooters on the link I attached above. The guy in the link shoots and hits 5 targets in under 2 seconds - and he’s not even the World Champion! I’m only talking about speed shooting here, not FT or BR. 
 
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