Nighttime Starling Smackdown

Went to a dairy farm a couple of nights ago with my new Pard NV008LRF night sight. I bought it number one because it is very light and smaller compared to my ATN X-Sight HD plus it had very good reviews. As this was my first nighttime pest outing with the Pard I had to acquaint myself with the control buttons by feel in the dark resulting in some fumbling around. Anyway on to the starlings. I have shot here before a few times but could not get the farmer to turn off the lights. With the lights on it messes with the night vision sight plus allows the starlings enough light to see and fly away. Well this night the farmer was able to turns the light off in two of the structures which made things much better. I was using my FX Impact in .22 cal and was able to get it down to 13 fpe by adjusting the valve and hammer wheel. The Impact is the rifle to have with the larger 28 round Side Shot magazine plus I had just got two Field Pro speed loaders to keep the action going. I did not record all the action that night and probably went through about 150 rounds at least. I am hoping this will dissuade them pooping sob's from coming back. Bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6p_WJIa5zc&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=GunPowder%26AirPower
 
Bill, GREAT video!

I've been holding off on a night-vision scope for years, but really want to snag one.. 
When the ATNs hit, I almost jumped. 1st on the HD, 2nd on the 4K.. 
I'm a bit of a zoom-freak, so their high powered versions were really tempting. 
Hearing of all the firmware issues, as well as customer support [sometimes lack thereof]
I kept holding off.. Then I checked into the NV007 and the NV008 / NV008LRF.. 
Man, these things are looking pretty killer for sure! So thanks for posting this! 

Like you said, they're lighter / smaller / etc. so that's a plus.
I just wish they had more zoooom. Haha 
They do or at least did offer a window-in-window feature though, so that's cool.. 
Main view + a smaller window w/ a zoomed in view. I dig that too. 

A great selling point is the fact that you can slam an 18650 battery inside to power em'. 
I'm in an industry where I ended up with tons of those, so I like that option more and more.. 

Your footage is awesome! I noticed some slight glitching and horizontal lines in the video.. 
Not sure if that's the internal DVR, memory card type, etc. 

People in the UK have been raving about PARN for a while now.. 
I didn't see much of anything over here in the USofA - Especially dealers.. 
I sent an e-mail directly to the manufacturer a while ago, but go figure, no response back.. 

As someone who's always been in retail and into electronics and digital photography, 
I know how important it is as far as manufacturers / sellers Support/Warranties are concerned. 

The LRS version is really looking promising, that's for sure! 
Hopefully you really enjoy yours, and I look forward to checking out more from ya.. 
Maybe even your personal thoughts comparing your ATN and your PARN. 
[SiteMark was another option, but for whatever reasons, they were a pass]

🙂

Sam -
 
That's awesome and hilarious at the same time - they (the starlings) apparently can't see you so they just sit tight as you pick 'em off one after another! Curious (because I'd like to do the same ) - I know of a couple of farms that I drive by on my commute to work that appear to have big starling populations - 13ft/lbs with a .22 is roughly 625'ish fps with a 16 gr pellet (I used the formula thing at PA website to quick figure the jsb 15.89's that I typically shoot) --> https://www.pyramydair.coma/article/What_is_Muzzle_Energy_August_2003/5

Are you shooting 16's or something lighter / heavier?

Again - well done!

( few minutes time passed -- lol ) disregard questions above - I'm at work and supposed to be, ummmmmm - working. Just watched more of it and yeah - you answer my questions. :)
 
Been trying to buy one for a couple months! I resist buying directly from chinese company. May have to. Do you think the LRF is woth the extra 2-3 hundred?

Keyman, I feel your pain. 😃


Months ago, I needed a rangefinder either-way, so I just opted for a mini.. [LE-032 Mini Laser Rangefinder] 
When the LRF was introduced, the 1st thing I thought was.. Cool, they incorporated an LE032, so figured on spending about 150 bucks more.. 
Then I saw the LRF's MSRP: Ouch. Yes, they scaled down the form factor, yes, it's more convenient, but damn.. A few hundred more?! 
I think it boils down to personal preference. 
Combo unit and pay more, or, scope + stand alone mini ranger and pay less, but have to deal w/ extra bulk, mounting, etc.

Sam -

 
Bill, GREAT video!

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The LRS version is really looking promising, that's for sure! 
Hopefully you really enjoy yours, and I look forward to checking out more from ya.. 
Maybe even your personal thoughts comparing your ATN and your PARN. 
[SiteMark was another option, but for whatever reasons, they were a pass]

🙂

Sam -

Sam I am 65 years old now and single. My thought recently is you can't take it with you so I went ahead and bought the NV008LRF. The benefits of this light unit and not having to carry a battery pack around was worth it to me. I don't think I will be using the range finder a lot because you can't click on target with the Pard and most of my shooting will be within my point blank range. Some of the picture issues was trying to shoot with too much light present. I don't know what cause the ticking noise in the video but I did change batteries part way through my pesting. The batteries I bought were a high quality Samsung 3000 mAh. I was pushing buttons in the dark so hopefully I did not get something out of whack. Once again the Pard has great reviews I hope my issue are temporary. Bill
 
Been trying to buy one for a couple months! I resist buying directly from chinese company. May have to. Do you think the LRF is woth the extra 2-3 hundred?

I recently bought a regulator from Huma-Air and noticed the sell the Pards. It appears they sell them to the US.. My recent order took about 10 days to get to me on the east coast as I remember. Bill
 
That's awesome and hilarious at the same time - they (the starlings) apparently can't see you so they just sit tight as you pick 'em off one after another! Curious (because I'd like to do the same ) - I know of a couple of farms that I drive by on my commute to work that appear to have big starling populations - 13ft/lbs with a .22 is roughly 625'ish fps with a 16 gr pellet (I used the formula thing at PA website to quick figure the jsb 15.89's that I typically shoot) --> https://www.pyramydair.coma/article/What_is_Muzzle_Energy_August_2003/5

Are you shooting 16's or something lighter / heavier?

Again - well done!

( few minutes time passed -- lol ) disregard questions above - I'm at work and supposed to be, ummmmmm - working. Just watched more of it and yeah - you answer my questions. :)

I am shooting the JSB Hades at 15.89 grains. At 13 fpe they normally will not punch holes in the tin roofs unless you hit perpendicular at a point with no flex. You will see in the video I put in a couple of dents. Bill
 
I am doing the same thing with a local dairy farmer. I have the ATN X sight and it's one of the early ones and it's freaking heavy and does the job but not nearly as nice as yours. When I look at your 'barn rafters' they look a lot like mine. However, when the Startlings come in to roost they disappear behind something in the roof. I can't get into that area to inspect what's happening because the farmer says there's a mean bull in with the Heiffers supposedly doing what bulls do. I am not a farmer type person but most of the farmers have said more farmers are killed by bulls than anything else. Also as a side. If you are pesting at a farm with cows and calves, they are supposed to be as dangerous as a bull. Protecting their young.

I am having my best luck shooting the Starlings as they sit on a farmer's guy wire, just before they fly into the barn. He says what I am doing has definitely made a difference but there are still a lot of birds.

I am going to send your URL to my farmer friend and maybe he'll let me control the lights on a shooting night. One shot and they all fly out into the dark through an opening that has a night light on it.
 
I am doing the same thing with a local dairy farmer. I have the ATN X sight and it's one of the early ones and it's freaking heavy and does the job but not nearly as nice as yours. When I look at your 'barn rafters' they look a lot like mine. However, when the Startlings come in to roost they disappear behind something in the roof. I can't get into that area to inspect what's happening because the farmer says there's a mean bull in with the Heiffers supposedly doing what bulls do. I am not a farmer type person but most of the farmers have said more farmers are killed by bulls than anything else. Also as a side. If you are pesting at a farm with cows and calves, they are supposed to be as dangerous as a bull. Protecting their young.

I am having my best luck shooting the Starlings as they sit on a farmer's guy wire, just before they fly into the barn. He says what I am doing has definitely made a difference but there are still a lot of birds.

I am going to send your URL to my farmer friend and maybe he'll let me control the lights on a shooting night. One shot and they all fly out into the dark through an opening that has a night light on it.

Jim the cows and steers and Heiffers at this farm can be skittish if you surprise them but then it turns into curiosity and you have to make sure they don't get into your line of fire. At night when I am shooting they all tend to come to the edge of the shed or fencing and watch me and if I am close try to lick me. One thing I am employing is a camera tripod with a gimbal head. I will sit on a cushion out of range of the cows to give me a safe line of fire above their reach. That works pretty good but as you mentioned there are some areas for me it looks like you need to get in with the cows. One thought was to make a platform that sits higher than the cows to shoot off of maybe utilizing some of the existing structure. I was actually talking to the farmer today about that and trying to make sure all lights are off. I also gave him a thumb drive with the video of the starling carnage going on. He said he was going to plug it into his tv to watch on the big screen. This will be the first time he will watching this kind of action before only his son has watch the video. I talked to the farmer too about placing an access door in the wire mesh that surrounds on of his building. As much as they hate these starlings and pest birds I think he might be receptive. Bill

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