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January 14, 2017 at 10:05 am Link

Dirte
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From Daystate’s Facebook page…….
The Daystate team are out in the USA preparing for the annual SHOT SHOW in Las Vegas. Here is a sneaky pic of the Daystate Saxon with the new production Wolverine2 to be officially launched at the Shot Show. The Wolverine2 will be in shops later this year.

January 14, 2017 at 10:07 am Link

Dirte
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I’m curious what is different from the first generation. Also wondering when America will see the “2”? At some point….. I would like to add a Daystate to the fold.

*Edit*
Sounds like they will provide further info after the launch. From their Facebook replies.

January 14, 2017 at 10:17 am Link

Panzer
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Was that wolverine formerly known as the HiLite model?

January 14, 2017 at 12:18 pm Link

zebra
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I wondered why the old Wolverine was suddenly on sale. Time to clear out old stock to make room for the shiny new toys.

If anyone planned to sell their Wolverine, I’d do it before this become common knowledge…

January 14, 2017 at 12:25 pm Link

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The only thing I would like to change on my wolverine HiLite would be to install a larger bolt handle, I have contacted Rowan engineering and they do not seem interested in building one. Any one out there know of any sources?

January 14, 2017 at 1:20 pm Link

Nueces
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Dang, wish I was rich. That tiger striped number is sexy.

January 14, 2017 at 4:45 pm Link

zebra
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“Dirte”I’m curious what is different from the first generation. Also wondering when America will see the “2”? At some point….. I would like to add a Daystate to the fold.

*Edit*
Sounds like they will provide further info after the launch. From their Facebook replies.

 They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency.

It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it’s really a different gun.

The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good…for a non-regulated gun. I think I’d prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal.

Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one.

In fact, let’s make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers…. please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it’s a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don’t leave them behind!

Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy… ok maybe not that bad but….

"Dirte"I'm curious what is different from the first generation. Also wondering when America will see the "2"? At some point..... I would like to add a Daystate to the fold. *Edit* Sounds like they will provide further info after the launch. From their Facebook replies.
 They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency. It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it's really a different gun. The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good...for a non-regulated gun. I think I'd prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal. Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one. In fact, let's make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers.... please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it's a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don't leave them behind! Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy... ok maybe not that bad but....

January 14, 2017 at 5:01 pm Link

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I wouldn’t trade my mk1 bobcat for a mk2

January 14, 2017 at 6:35 pm Link

bowwild
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I like the looks of that Saxon as well. I suppose the lam stock is heavier though and I’m allergic to weight.

January 14, 2017 at 7:10 pm Link

Nueces
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“bowwild”I like the looks of that Saxon as well. I suppose the lam stock is heavier though and I’m allergic to weight.

 heh heh

Don’t ever buy an Air Arms TX then. Lessen you just want to sit at a bench with it.

January 14, 2017 at 8:18 pm Link

scubajeeper
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I have a friend that just ordered a B Hi lite. That’s a pretty good deal going on right now. I wonder what price the gen 2 is going to be. I’d like to see a side by side comparison.

January 14, 2017 at 8:22 pm Link

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If AOA gets any saxons I will try to obtain one. Ive been calling AOA and following close. Even emailed daystate about it like 2 weeks ago. There were only 150 made worldwide. I hope they get at least a couple.

January 14, 2017 at 8:45 pm Link

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@marksman3006…I figured the same thing…money in pocket has me antsy, though…really close to snatching up a .303 Hi-Lite at that reduced price and just be done with it.

January 14, 2017 at 10:27 pm Link

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ddransoml@marksman3006…I figured the same thing…money in pocket has me antsy, though…really close to snatching up a .303 Hi-Lite at that reduced price and just be done with it.

 

I think you should get the hilite while the getting is good. I already have a .22 Hi-Lite.

January 14, 2017 at 11:46 pm Link

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How does it handle?

January 15, 2017 at 1:08 am Link

Marksman3006
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ddransomlHow does it handle?

 

I like the way it handles. It is noticeably better balanced than the c type. My dad has a wolverine type c in .177. If you can live without the bipod I would definitely get the hilite. My dad is 65 and he doesnt like the c type other than shooting off the bipod. In fact……his personal favorite is his compatto. I have to admit that the compatto feels awesome offhand. He is thinking hard about selling his wolverine C to get the new Brocock Bantom. He doesnt like heavy….or anything close to it.

ddransomlHow does it handle?
  I like the way it handles. It is noticeably better balanced than the c type. My dad has a wolverine type c in .177. If you can live without the bipod I would definitely get the hilite. My dad is 65 and he doesnt like the c type other than shooting off the bipod. In fact......his personal favorite is his compatto. I have to admit that the compatto feels awesome offhand. He is thinking hard about selling his wolverine C to get the new Brocock Bantom. He doesnt like heavy....or anything close to it.

January 15, 2017 at 3:09 am Link

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zebra
 They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency.

It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it’s really a different gun.

The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good…for a non-regulated gun. I think I’d prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal.

Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one.

In fact, let’s make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers…. please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it’s a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don’t leave them behind!

Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy… ok maybe not that bad but….

 

Vulcan is upgradable

zebra  They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency. It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it's really a different gun. The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good...for a non-regulated gun. I think I'd prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal. Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one. In fact, let's make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers.... please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it's a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don't leave them behind! Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy... ok maybe not that bad but....
  Vulcan is upgradable

January 15, 2017 at 7:42 am Link

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“zebra”

“Dirte”I’m curious what is different from the first generation. Also wondering when America will see the “2”? At some point….. I would like to add a Daystate to the fold.

*Edit*
Sounds like they will provide further info after the launch. From their Facebook replies.

 They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency.

It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it’s really a different gun.

The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good…for a non-regulated gun. I think I’d prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal.

Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one.

In fact, let’s make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers…. please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it’s a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don’t leave them behind!

Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy… ok maybe not that bad but….

 
2017. Umarex. Whole rifle. Action, barrel, stock, trigger assembly, bottle, profit margin. $299. Regulated.

2017. Benjamin Marauder. Externally adjustable regulator.

2017. Daystate. Still no regulator. For the love of all that is holy, Daystate, please regulate. Your guns are so incredibly sexy, I really want to put another one on my wish list. After my one and only experience with a wolverine, while it was incredibly good looking, the Harper valve system just isn’t competitive in today’s market. A lot of other guns on the market today that are regulated, have just as efficient of a valve system and are forward thinking enough to realize that alone doesn’t get it done. Watching my POI go up and down on the target with the power curve was all I needed to tell me you weren’t for me. I understand you’ve been catering to the 12 fpe market which has less need for a regulator, but please, for the love of pete, put out at least one model with a regulator. I just can’t bring myself to look at your lineup until you have a regulated gun.

Daystate, please regulate.

"zebra"
"Dirte"I'm curious what is different from the first generation. Also wondering when America will see the "2"? At some point..... I would like to add a Daystate to the fold. *Edit* Sounds like they will provide further info after the launch. From their Facebook replies.
 They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency. It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it's really a different gun. The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good...for a non-regulated gun. I think I'd prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal. Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one. In fact, let's make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers.... please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it's a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don't leave them behind! Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy... ok maybe not that bad but....
  2017. Umarex. Whole rifle. Action, barrel, stock, trigger assembly, bottle, profit margin. $299. Regulated. 2017. Benjamin Marauder. Externally adjustable regulator. 2017. Daystate. Still no regulator. For the love of all that is holy, Daystate, please regulate. Your guns are so incredibly sexy, I really want to put another one on my wish list. After my one and only experience with a wolverine, while it was incredibly good looking, the Harper valve system just isn't competitive in today's market. A lot of other guns on the market today that are regulated, have just as efficient of a valve system and are forward thinking enough to realize that alone doesn't get it done. Watching my POI go up and down on the target with the power curve was all I needed to tell me you weren't for me. I understand you've been catering to the 12 fpe market which has less need for a regulator, but please, for the love of pete, put out at least one model with a regulator. I just can't bring myself to look at your lineup until you have a regulated gun. Daystate, please regulate.

January 15, 2017 at 10:33 am Link

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“hsnmz”

“zebra”
 They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency.

It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it’s really a different gun.

The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good…for a non-regulated gun. I think I’d prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal.

Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one.

In fact, let’s make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers…. please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it’s a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don’t leave them behind!

Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy… ok maybe not that bad but….

 

Vulcan is upgradable

 I like that. Good on them for making their developments available to their existing customers.

Most people would prefer to invest in an upgradable platform with longterm support instead of an endless onslaught of new models with one new feature. This is the reason for the popularity of the AR15 platform. It’s never obsolete and you can make it as good as you can afford.

We we want to feel like we can hang on to air rifle when we get an accurate one and not risk losing that performance for one or two new features.

"hsnmz"
"zebra"  They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency. It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it's really a different gun. The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good...for a non-regulated gun. I think I'd prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal. Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one. In fact, let's make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers.... please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it's a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don't leave them behind! Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy... ok maybe not that bad but....
  Vulcan is upgradable
 I like that. Good on them for making their developments available to their existing customers. Most people would prefer to invest in an upgradable platform with longterm support instead of an endless onslaught of new models with one new feature. This is the reason for the popularity of the AR15 platform. It's never obsolete and you can make it as good as you can afford. We we want to feel like we can hang on to air rifle when we get an accurate one and not risk losing that performance for one or two new features.
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