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"Dirte"I'm curious what is different from the first generation. Also wondering when America will see the "2"? At some point..... I would like to add a Daystate to the fold.

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Sounds like they will provide further info after the launch. From their Facebook replies.
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They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency.

It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it's really a different gun. 

The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good...for a non-regulated gun. I think I'd prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal. 

Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one. 

In fact, let's make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers.... please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it's a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don't leave them behind!

Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy... ok maybe not that bad but....
 
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ddransomlHow does it handle?
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I like the way it handles. It is noticeably better balanced than the c type. My dad has a wolverine type c in .177. If you can live without the bipod I would definitely get the hilite. My dad is 65 and he doesnt like the c type other than shooting off the bipod. In fact......his personal favorite is his compatto. I have to admit that the compatto feels awesome offhand. He is thinking hard about selling his wolverine C to get the new Brocock Bantom. He doesnt like heavy....or anything close to it.
 
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They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency.

It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it's really a different gun. 

The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good...for a non-regulated gun. I think I'd prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal. 

Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one. 

In fact, let's make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers.... please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it's a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don't leave them behind!

Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy... ok maybe not that bad but....
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Vulcan is upgradable
 
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"Dirte"I'm curious what is different from the first generation. Also wondering when America will see the "2"? At some point..... I would like to add a Daystate to the fold.

*Edit* 
Sounds like they will provide further info after the launch. From their Facebook replies.
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They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency.

It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it's really a different gun. 

The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good...for a non-regulated gun. I think I'd prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal. 

Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one. 

In fact, let's make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers.... please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it's a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don't leave them behind!

Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy... ok maybe not that bad but....
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2017. Umarex. Whole rifle. Action, barrel, stock, trigger assembly, bottle, profit margin. $299. Regulated.

2017. Benjamin Marauder. Externally adjustable regulator.

2017. Daystate. Still no regulator. For the love of all that is holy, Daystate, please regulate. Your guns are so incredibly sexy, I really want to put another one on my wish list. After my one and only experience with a wolverine, while it was incredibly good looking, the Harper valve system just isn't competitive in today's market. A lot of other guns on the market today that are regulated, have just as efficient of a valve system and are forward thinking enough to realize that alone doesn't get it done. Watching my POI go up and down on the target with the power curve was all I needed to tell me you weren't for me. I understand you've been catering to the 12 fpe market which has less need for a regulator, but please, for the love of pete, put out at least one model with a regulator. I just can't bring myself to look at your lineup until you have a regulated gun. 

Daystate, please regulate.



 
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"zebra"
They describe the differences on the Daystate site. The only meaningful one is an improved valve system for greater efficiency.

It will depend how much better the new valve system is on whether it's really a different gun. 

The regular sling shot hammer system and valve on the current Daystate guns is already fairly good...for a non-regulated gun. I think I'd prefer them to just offer a reg option if the improved valve system is just marginal. 

Either way, I hope they offer the new valve system as an upgrade option to existing Wolverine owners. I really hate that feeling of having the obsolete model while everyone is discussing the new one. 

In fact, let's make this a general request to all air gun manufacturers.... please stop bringing out pointless new models and pretending it's a new gun. Instead, please offer the improvements as upgrade parts for existing customers to buy. Progress is good but all this Mk1 vs MK2 bs does nothing for the resale value of these beastly expensive guns. If people have invest $1500 to $2000 in your product, don't leave them behind!

Having the Mk1 Vulcan or Bobcat these days is like having leprosy... ok maybe not that bad but....
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Vulcan is upgradable
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I like that. Good on them for making their developments available to their existing customers.

Most people would prefer to invest in an upgradable platform with longterm support instead of an endless onslaught of new models with one new feature. This is the reason for the popularity of the AR15 platform. It's never obsolete and you can make it as good as you can afford. 

We we want to feel like we can hang on to air rifle when we get an accurate one and not risk losing that performance for one or two new features. 
 
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