New tank, failed inspection.

Thank you for your post and for not revealing the vendor in question, it's honorable and shows tact. Do you think the cross threading could have resulted from moisture? Could there have been bi-metallic galvanic reactions between the threads and disimilar metals as a result of moisture? Was this tank assembled in a clean room? Thanks again!
 
Thank you for your post and for not revealing the vendor in question, it's honorable and shows tact. Do you think the cross threading could have resulted from moisture? Could there have been bi-metallic galvanic reactions between the threads and disimilar metals as a result of moisture? Was this tank assembled in a clean room? Thanks again!

The shop did not remove the valve. They said that the high resistance to removal was either cross or bad threads, and to them it was a failed inspection in either case. The first step of their inspection is that the valve removes easily with expected torque. So, it may not have been cross threads, but bad threads. No further diagnosis other than twisting the valve a couple of turns was performed.
 
Makes perfect sense to me, took a new tank to a shop, they couldn't remove the valve because it was torqued up, and they are worried about liability if the valve is removed and it damages the threads and/or re-threading issues. If you're unable to handle it with the upstream vendor, and are unable to issue a charge-bac,k please PM me and I would be more than willing to help you recoup your losses by offering you a generous 25% of the total purchase price. I would also be willing to sign a hold-harmless pre-sale. Thanks!
 
There is no way a valve could be threaded on completely and be cross threaded. The primary reason I bought my first compressor years ago was to avoid the extra rip off charges that the local dive shops were extorting from air gunners for annual visual inspection fees. If they are filling your tank the air should be dry. Annual visual inspections in addition to the 5 year hydro testing is extortion in my opinion. I have a local friend and member of this forum had a dive shop "hydro test" his tank and instead of an inspection sticker they labeled the tank with a Sharpie. But that's another story. They went out of business, thank goodness.

If this tank had been mine I would have removed the valve prior to it's first inspection. Sometimes tanks from reputable vendors arrive over tightened. My suggestion to remove a stuck valve is to use a strap wrench to hold the tank and to use a large rubber mallet to hit the side of the valve a time or two to bust it loose. Don't hit the valve on the handle! You could also assist the process by partially filling it to 500 psi then open the valve fully without the fill hose. Cooling the valve will create a temperature differential to the tank it's attached to so it will loosen much easier. It sounds like his testing facility is after easy money and didn't put much effort into removing the valve. If a rubber mallet could damage the valve it would have to be made out of pot metal and would be too dangerous to own in the first place.

You probably didn't have a defective tank or valve. It required elbow grease. Buy a compressor. The time savings, convenience, and avoiding this type of treatment by a vendor is all a bonus in addition to the fees you'll save.
 
There is no way a valve could be threaded on completely and be cross threaded. The primary reason I bought my first compressor years ago was to avoid the extra rip off charges that the local dive shops were extorting from air gunners for annual visual inspection fees. If they are filling your tank the air should be dry. Annual visual inspections in addition to the 5 year hydro testing is extortion in my opinion. I have a local friend and member of this forum had a dive shop "hydro test" his tank and instead of an inspection sticker they labeled the tank with a Sharpie. But that's another story. They went out of business, thank goodness.

If this tank had been mine I would have removed the valve prior to it's first inspection. Sometimes tanks from reputable vendors arrive over tightened. My suggestion to remove a stuck valve is to use a strap wrench to hold the tank and to use a large rubber mallet to hit the side of the valve a time or two to bust it loose. Don't hit the valve on the handle! You could also assist the process by partially filling it to 500 psi then open the valve fully without the fill hose. Cooling the valve will create a temperature differential to the tank it's attached to so it will loosen much easier. It sounds like his testing facility is after easy money and didn't put much effort into removing the valve. If a rubber mallet could damage the valve it would have to be made out of pot metal and would be too dangerous to own in the first place.

You probably didn't have a defective tank or valve. It required elbow grease. Buy a compressor. The time savings, convenience, and avoiding this type of treatment by a vendor is all a bonus in addition to the fees you'll save.

I will state it one more time, the valve turned and could have been removed. The shop said the resistance was too high, not that it could not be turned.

See above for the why the shop did not remove the valve, even though they could have.


 
So many interesting responses. A dive shop is just that they supplied diving breathing air. They perform a yearly visual inspections which means they do pull the valve and inspect inside and outside of the tank. With a diving tanks I use both steel and aluminum I never pulled valve or install the valve. With the five or six carbon fiber tanks that I have been involved in I have installed it on all tanks the valve by hand and only hand tight.
 
OK, I'm coming in WAY on the tail end of this. Close to 31 years of working with & hydrotesting SCBA tanks I have NEVER, EVER seen one cross threaded and don't believe it's even possible! Sounds to me as though dive shop was inept at removing valve & didn't want to be libel for their ineptitude. Centercut was correct in that the way SCBA bottle valves are designed IF it were cross threaded the valve Crown would not sit flush with the Crown of the tank neck. It's amazing how many people "read" stuff that was never stated. A mind is a terrible thing! 
 
So "Deleted account" got "DELETED" for EXPOSING WHO THE VENDOR REALLY WAS? IS THAT RIGHT?

I don't think he exposed anyone. Nothing to Expose really. The dealer is not the manufacturer. As long as the dealer replaced the tank they did all they could do. Considering the price of shipping those big ol tanks I would say the dealer probably lost money on the deal. 

The deleted account guy did seem like a ***** for a certain dealer though.