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November 28, 2020 at 5:23 pm Link
I have been working on some new furniture for the AF Condors.
The blue/gray will go on a full length Condor with a 580cc CF tank, which happens to be right at the same length 490cc aluminum tank.
The green mountain camo will go on a Condor SS with a 480cc CF tank. It will be more of a carbine.November 28, 2020 at 6:09 pm LinkLoren
I've read a bunch of your posts and drooling over this…. I have to ask… is this beginner woodworker friendly? or am i better off saving up for a madd dog or some other stock
Loren
I've read a bunch of your posts and drooling over this.... I have to ask... is this beginner woodworker friendly? or am i better off saving up for a madd dog or some other stock
November 28, 2020 at 6:51 pm LinkAaron, I would say it depends. I am by no means an advanced woodworker, although I am a pretty good craftsman and a manufacturing engineer by profession. Kind of jack of all trades, master of none and have spent my career trying to figure how make things so this comes natural to me.
These are all machined "by hand" and not made using a duplicator. I use a router table for the inletting and forearm shaping. I use a trim router for the free hand work for inletting for the tank band clamp block and a aluminum plate I inlet into the butt for anchoring the tank clamp, but all of that could be done with chisels, which do get used a little for squaring up corners and fitting. All the organic shaping I do with carbide burrs, sanding disc, and small sanding cones on pneumatic die grinders. (straight and 90 degree) They are small but powerful and allow for a lot of dexterity for shaping. I have other tools that I use to reduce the amount of elbow grease needed, and for blank prep, but I think I could do it without them.
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Loren.
Aaron, I would say it depends. I am by no means an advanced woodworker, although I am a pretty good craftsman and a manufacturing engineer by profession. Kind of jack of all trades, master of none and have spent my career trying to figure how make things so this comes natural to me.
These are all machined "by hand" and not made using a duplicator. I use a router table for the inletting and forearm shaping. I use a trim router for the free hand work for inletting for the tank band clamp block and a aluminum plate I inlet into the butt for anchoring the tank clamp, but all of that could be done with chisels, which do get used a little for squaring up corners and fitting. All the organic shaping I do with carbide burrs, sanding disc, and small sanding cones on pneumatic die grinders. (straight and 90 degree) They are small but powerful and allow for a lot of dexterity for shaping. I have other tools that I use to reduce the amount of elbow grease needed, and for blank prep, but I think I could do it without them.
November 28, 2020 at 7:12 pm LinkHi Loren
I was going to ask if you used a duplicator, im a bit more optimistic when you say you dont :). I will look into stockmaking a bit more… I'm not sure what type of wood would be good for me, but i wonder if i could laminate some baltic birch plywood together to maybe reduce some router work. Although, vie been looking to get a router, this might be a good reason to get one!
Hi Loren
I was going to ask if you used a duplicator, im a bit more optimistic when you say you dont :). I will look into stockmaking a bit more... I'm not sure what type of wood would be good for me, but i wonder if i could laminate some baltic birch plywood together to maybe reduce some router work. Although, vie been looking to get a router, this might be a good reason to get one!
November 28, 2020 at 7:37 pm LinkProblem with conventional plywood is the grain direction alternates 90 degrees with each layer, which may not be ideal. Poplar would machine easy, low cost for giving it a try, will laminate well, and finishes nicely with stain or paint.
Problem with conventional plywood is the grain direction alternates 90 degrees with each layer, which may not be ideal. Poplar would machine easy, low cost for giving it a try, will laminate well, and finishes nicely with stain or paint.
November 28, 2020 at 7:41 pm LinkGreat idea! if i like the result maybe i could coat it with something to toughen it up like epoxy or bedliner
Great idea! if i like the result maybe i could coat it with something to toughen it up like epoxy or bedliner
November 28, 2020 at 7:50 pm LinkFrom my understanding Maddog uses poplar and bedliner on the small caliber guns styocks and then poplar/maple/poplar on the Texan stocks Using the maple to stiffen them a bit more than just poplar.
From my understanding Maddog uses poplar and bedliner on the small caliber guns styocks and then poplar/maple/poplar on the Texan stocks Using the maple to stiffen them a bit more than just poplar.
November 29, 2020 at 1:15 am LinkNice work! Can't wait till they are fitted to the guns.
Nice work! Can't wait till they are fitted to the guns.
November 29, 2020 at 6:12 am LinkLoren,
where are you sourcing the laminate blanks ?
Loren,
where are you sourcing the laminate blanks ?
November 29, 2020 at 8:13 am LinkThe laminate is Spectraply Panels from www.cwp-usa.com There are lots of color options. Way more that what you see available typically in gun stocks.
The laminate is Spectraply Panels from www.cwp-usa.com There are lots of color options. Way more that what you see available typically in gun stocks.
November 30, 2020 at 5:08 pm LinkDecember 3, 2020 at 5:35 pm LinkSling studs and the sling came in today. Fitting and the rifle shoulders real nice.
I also finished up the blue laminate stock and had time to get the rifle mounted in it.
December 3, 2020 at 8:36 pm LinkVery nice! I love the color choices.
Very nice! I love the color choices.
December 3, 2020 at 8:40 pm LinkI'm impressed. I like that work. Are you selling them or building for your own use? I don't have an AirForce , I am just curious
I'm impressed. I like that work. Are you selling them or building for your own use? I don't have an AirForce , I am just curious
December 3, 2020 at 8:52 pm LinkThat blue one is spectacular!
That blue one is spectacular!
December 3, 2020 at 9:30 pm Linksasquatch
I'm impressed. I like that work. Are you selling them or building for your own use? I don't have an AirForce , I am just curious
…if he likes making those methinks he could quit his day job…
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sasquatch
I'm impressed. I like that work. Are you selling them or building for your own use? I don't have an AirForce , I am just curious
...if he likes making those methinks he could quit his day job...
December 4, 2020 at 8:17 am LinkThanks guys, I'm glad you like the work. I built these for my own guns, and each is "hand carved" and not cut on a duplicator. Cost in raw material was $180+ and I have 50+ hours in fab and finishes time in each stock. I'm not sure anyone would want to pay a custom shop rate to have one based on those numbers.
The Airforce platform lacks the bells and whistle of the other brands, but they are fair priced and make HUGE power in factory form and with a nice wood stock they are pretty cool rifles IMHO. The blue Condor is .25cal and easily producing 110 FPE with a 53gr cast bullet with it's 24" barrel. The Condor SS is also a .25cal and producing 85 FPE with the same bullet.
See some of my latest stock builds at http://www.DiamondGunStocks.com
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Loren.
Thanks guys, I'm glad you like the work. I built these for my own guns, and each is "hand carved" and not cut on a duplicator. Cost in raw material was $180+ and I have 50+ hours in fab and finishes time in each stock. I'm not sure anyone would want to pay a custom shop rate to have one based on those numbers.
The Airforce platform lacks the bells and whistle of the other brands, but they are fair priced and make HUGE power in factory form and with a nice wood stock they are pretty cool rifles IMHO. The blue Condor is .25cal and easily producing 110 FPE with a 53gr cast bullet with it's 24" barrel. The Condor SS is also a .25cal and producing 85 FPE with the same bullet.
See some of my latest stock builds at www.DiamondGunStocks.com
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