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New R9 in the collection. NOW can I join the HW fan-boi club?

Forums Springers, Pumpers, C02, & Replicas Springers, Pumpers, C02, & Replicas – Discussion New R9 in the collection. NOW can I join the HW fan-boi club?

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    BryanH
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    I just optically centered the reticle on a leupold  4×28, mounted it up in a set of single strap BKL’s on my R9, and hit the 1” spinners 15 yards out my back door 5 out of 5 times with no adjustment.  Is there another breakbarrel gun in the world that can do that?

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    BryanH

    Summary:

    “I just bought a flying dragon tuned R9.  My $150 Gamo is just as good”

    If you care to salvage any of your credibility you will let us in on your secret.  I already know you are getting some type of deal, might not be with Gamo but it’s a hustle.  You are getting some kind of deal.  Don’t play!

    Your "summary" is misleading and out of context.  I'll try not to take offense at your need to pis* in my Wheaties.  Probably best that was in a PM, but since you seem to have an itch that needs scratched…

     

    Looking beyond this forum might expand your awareness.  Gamo, or anyone, bears very little weight over any brand I use or where I get it.

    https://www.facebook.com/TAGSguild

    (and that's just one of my side-gigs.  my bread-n-butter is as a firearms instructor.)

     

    I don't get any better discounts than any of you could.  SOMETIMES I get a freebee, but I say when that when so.  That's happened ONCE this year so far, and noted it where posted.  I "flirt" with a lot of brands, hoping something will pick up from it, but not much joy in that goal so far.  If such a thing does happen, makes zero sense to hide it.

     

    I've dropped at least 50k on Amazon alone in the past decade.  About $3K with pyramydair, easily twice that on the used market in half that time.
    About the only money I make is selling the stuff I buy when done playing.  At a loss usually.  Any possible free shipping or discount code I could get wouldn't even be a percent of that.

     

    I don't collect, so I cycle through the gear fast.   Only have, oh, maybe 3 or 4 "keepers".

    So far, this R9 isn't one of them.  Sorry if that offends your religion or whatever.  Doesn't mean anything else is "better" for you, but perhaps for me there is.

    I'm not complaining about the gun.  I'm complaining about what feels like a mis-match to the shooter.  Even I know there's no 'better' Gamo break-barrel than, oh, probably ANY hw.

     

    But hey, if there's any manufacturer (no distributors please) wanna send me gear to test, review, play, etc.  PM me for my addy!

    I keep receipts, as most of this is a write-off through my firearm business. I charge by the hour starting at $65 per if you need more help or perhaps a review copy of my tax returns?

     

     

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    BryanH

    I just optically centered the reticle on a leupold  4×28, mounted it up in a set of single strap BKL’s on my R9, and hit the 1” spinners 15 yards out my back door 5 out of 5 times with no adjustment.  Is there another breakbarrel gun in the world that can do that?

    Perhaps you were shooting off-hand?  Dunno what a BKL strap is, sorry.

     

    But yes, just about ANY break-barrel will do sub-1" at 25-yards benchrest.  I could grab any off the wall right now and to that cold.  15-yards I can do it with open-sights.

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    pdxFrank
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    Damn.  And he's local.  That's one that was on my "maybe" list, but I'm just not a fan of under-levers.

     

    Still, he might ship or if you're in the 'hood… seemed worth sharing while I have it it front of me:
    https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/price-reduced-beeman-hw97-with-full-custom-tune.366220/

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    Twinkees_n_Pb
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    Why not a fan if underlevers? Just curious.  I love them all.. the quality build ones that is; quality build is for keeps. Sure they all will shoot fairly accurate at 15-25yds, but for how long and how consistent is where the HW's and the like shine. Same in the powder world. A gun, is gun …is a gun, however what makes one more special to you is one that talks to you…by that I mean one that strikes your heart and eyes; feels good in your hands.. enables you to shoot competently and confidently. That said, being limited on $$ (at least is for me) one can spend on so many guns why not get one that are for keeps. 

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    Gave it some thought, now that it's burned in my brain from my rant-ish reply.

    Again, not a fan of distributors.  God bless them all.  Got my reasons, let's move on.

    BOOM, here's a few from my wish-list if I can someday provide content worthy of their time and expense.  Might as well put it out there.

     

    #feinwerkbau

    #airforceairguns

    #actionsportgames

    #Weihrauch

     

    Until then, it's whatever I can afford, which ain't much at once.  Took me YEARS to talk myself into dropping $400+ on, well, a toy really.

     

    Frank Ravenswood, Oregon

    #tagsguild

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    Twinkees_n_Pb
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    Def a good thing we're all not into toys or the same toys. World would be a pretty boring place.

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    Blackpaw
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    Different is good.

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    pdxFrank
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    Twinkees_n_Pb

    Why not a fan if underlevers? Just curious.  I love them all.. the quality build ones that is; quality build is for keeps. Sure they all will shoot fairly accurate at 15-25yds, but for how long and how consistent is where the HW's and the like shine. Same in the powder world. A gun, is gun …is a gun, however what makes one more special to you is one that talks to you…by that I mean one that strikes your heart and eyes; feels good in your hands.. enables you to shoot competently and confidently. That said, being limited on $$ (at least is for me) one can spend on so many guns why not get one that are for keeps. 

    Only own one, a pretty fine one for a cheap basta#! like me.  XS46U.  From flyingdragon.  Shoots nice, not tuned, so needs help there, very accurate.  If I were into U/Ls, this would be a keeper.

     

    But, much for the same reason I'm not a fan of PCPs, I like it simple.  Seems there's a least a couple more steps just loading one.  And I'm lazy I guess.  Or just like to focus more on fewer things. :)

    It's a decent length tho' a good 3" longer than the R9.  Fits me better than my Diana 34 too.  That's why it's still here, I'm gonna give it another chance later.

     

    Yeah, the longevity, for lack of a better word, of the R9 is definitely a consideration.  I've really liked a few guns that I literally wore out in what I thought was far too soon.

    I don't shoot nearly as much as many, but I recovered 10k pellets last year.  Probably will shoot another 10k or more this one.  And I think some of these el-cheapos I've owned might be "rated" for about that many! lol oh, wait, no sad face.

     

    I go through a lot of guns in trade/sell/buy cycles, but I don't collect on purpose.  I have oh, 5 here I'd sell today in a heartbeat.  But I do love variety. 

     

    Which is helpful if I'm ever gonna make some "influencer" status and someone else can start paying for the gear.  But hell, who doesn't wanna get paid to play?  But that goal is just a side-gig thing, it's no where near high on my priorities in life.  I have a lot of eggs in a lot of baskets.

     

    Meanwhile, the oldest gun I own is my trusty ol' Gamo (yup) Silent Cat .177.  I took some spray-paint and sponged on my camo job, added a rail/bipod system, nothing else done, no tune, no trigger job, nada.  With good ammo, 1" holes at 25-yards all day long.  But again, most can.  That's not my gripe for most guns.

    I just like this one more than some 'cause it's light, and ready to shoot with that 'pod and open sights. (or scope if one's on it at the time)

    Gun, ammo, go go go. :)

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    "I just like this one more than some 'cause it's light, and ready to shoot with that 'pod and open sights. (or scope if one's on it at the time)"  

    …nothing wrong with that, if she fits your bill, she the one.  I am one of those ppl with a problem… I love them all and all too many. Problem best not to have, as the wife and wallet tells me.

    Regarding buying and selling; def not my thing. Power to you guys that do it. Lol. Heck I even hate returning broken/doa stuff to begin with; hence I try my best to stick w known quality I can afford for whatever I buy. 

    As for simple (and relatively light) …is the way to go, overall. I can align with that  …if all were equal.  I'm sucka for fine craftsmanship when comes to things mechanical. Powder burners for sure; however these well engineered 'toys' in the AG world are intriguing. And some additional weight or designs do serve a purpose… that said, just like my Huntsman Revere, my 77k and 97k are going to the grave with me :)

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    As a side-note, so the focus doesn't go there too much:

    I call our toys that because I do not want it EVER getting swept up with REAL guns (real guns, IMO, require some sort of FIRE).

     

    I'm not out to belittle what can literally take down a moose, if properly equipped.  I just don't want some over-zealous politician or liberal shill to read my words and ever justify the marriage of the two.  Just ask, oh, the UK, or even closer to home, Canada.  Screw that, they're toys.

    All my love brothers and sisters in arms,

     

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    You missed my point completely Frank.  Put an optically centered scope on most guns and you are going to need some adjustment to get on target.  My R9, with a quality 4×28 scope optically centered, in some BKL’s which are self centering rings, is close enough to hit those spinners with no adjustment.  But I also know you tried to make that point on purpose to detract from the point I was making.

    At 25 yards, I have not found a pellet this gun shoots worse than 3/4” for 5 shots.  And dimes with crosman Hollowpoints all day long with a proper rest.

     

    Frank I am just gonna come out and say it.  Your claims are fraudulent, and potentially damaging to flying dragon for that matter.  And that is putting it nicely.

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    shambozzie
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    Come on guy's. Agree to disagree. Why make Michael settle it. You know it's coming…..

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    pdxFrank
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    You missed my point completely Frank.  Put an optically centered scope on most guns and you are going to need some adjustment to get on target.  My R9, with a quality 4×28 scope optically centered, in some BKL’s which are self centering rings, is close enough to hit those spinners with no adjustment.  But I also know you tried to make that point on purpose to detract from the point I was making.

    At 25 yards, I have not found a pellet this gun shoots worse than 3/4” for 5 shots.  And dimes with crosman Hollowpoints all day long with a proper rest.

     

    Frank I am just gonna come out and say it.  Your claims are fraudulent, and potentially damaging to flying dragon for that matter.  And that is putting it nicely.

    I don't know what point I haven't covered yet you've made.  Nor have you shown anything supporting your conspiracy theory.  That's kinda how those work I guess.

    But wow.  Where the hell did I EVER say the gun is at fault?  Who missed who's point?

     

    Well, I'm done feeding the troll.  Now you're straight up libelous.  You could hang out here for a couple hours and I'll demonstrate to anyone who's not a creep..

    Would be cheaper than a lawyer.

     

    You don't know what you're talking about sir, and I'm done arguing with a crazy person.

     

     

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    Blackpaw

    Different is good.

    sometimes not man, sometimes not. :/

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    shambozzie

    Come on guy's. Agree to disagree. Why make Michael settle it. You know it's coming…..

    haven't figured out what we're "disagreeing" on lol!  anyway, done with that, I won't be seeing him here again.

     

    So, let's wrap up.

    I'm keeping the R9 long enough to find an HW97K to swap it for.  Maybe.  Unless I really really fall in love with it by then.  I'll give it a fair try.

     

    I'm on the lookout for 50+ yards I can regularly use.  Until then, 25-yards is my limit, and that's not much of a test for any decent air rifle.

     

    I use all kinds of guns for a living.  Feel free to google me.  I'm entirely independent of anyone.  I run my own show.  No "facts without the fluff" youtube crap here.

     

     

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    I’m not a troll.  I have called Frank on it once before and let it go a long time ago.  I have never gotten into it with another member on this forum.

    I am not going to back down from the truth.  I know this is 2021 but the truth is not subjective.  So things you say can fall into one of two categories- truth or lies.

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    Anyway on behalf of everyone else out there that’s blown over a thousand dollars on hundred dollar guns with bundled scopes that *might* group with one pellet, won’t hold zero, and in some cases won’t even adjust that far, let me tell you.  Scratch it together and get that R9.  It’s worth it.  
     

    I’m outta here

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    Ah, that's where I saw that before … Look your Excellency someone needs to explain to you that there are a whole lot of people here who know as much (or considerably more) than you merely think you know  WRT "all sorts" of firearms and airguns.  That's the second time I've seen your business card and I am less impressed this time than I was last time.

    You make a patently NOVICE air gunner mistake of expecting any spring rifle to be "regularly" used to shoot beyond 50 yards.  Clearly you fail to understand why the BEST AIR GUNNERS ON THIS PLANET limit their range in Field Target to 55 yards… You are coming off as a "know-it-all".  That's generally the last sort of personality who should be coaching new shooters.  Maybe that's why you are here shilling for business?

    I'll bottom line this for you. I'm just a regular Joe. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that you can't pass the "Ten dimes challenge" with any springer in your stable or any rim fire in it as well.  Print yourself off one of these targets and put your target where your mouth is… ok?

    https://www.oldspooks.com/agstuff/Targets/challenges/Ten-Dimes-v2.pdf

    Show me.  I'm really tired of you trying to TELL me.  Otherwise, maybe spend a little more time using your ears and eyes … you never know what you might learn.

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    Cornpone

     

    Ah, that's where I saw that before … Look your Excellency someone needs to explain to you that there are a whole lot of people here who know as much (or considerably more) than you merely think you know  WRT "all sorts" of firearms and airguns.  That's the second time I've seen your business card and I am less impressed this time than I was last time.

    You make a patently NOVICE air gunner mistake of expecting any spring rifle to be "regularly" used to shoot beyond 50 yards.  Clearly you fail to understand why the BEST AIR GUNNERS ON THIS PLANET limit their range in Field Target to 55 yards… You are coming off as a "know-it-all".  That's generally the last sort of personality who should be coaching new shooters.  Maybe that's why you are here shilling for business?

    I'll bottom line this for you. I'm just a regular Joe. I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that you can't pass the "Ten dimes challenge" with any springer in your stable or any rim fire in it as well.  Print yourself off one of these targets and put your target where your mouth is… ok?

    https://www.oldspooks.com/agstuff/Targets/challenges/Ten-Dimes-v2.pdf

    Show me.  I'm really tired of you trying to TELL me.  Otherwise, maybe spend a little more time using your ears and eyes … you never know what you might learn.

    Lol, what the frak is wrong with you folks?

    I just explained I was in the business.  Never said shit about my "expertise".  My abilities and teaching is "basic" at best.  So what I can shoot a break-barrel. That and 5 bucks gets me a cup of coffee.  I don't claim guruship, but a business card IS an advert.

     

    WHERE did I say a spring regularly used for 50 yards?  Just said that's what I wanted.  Since 25 is such a breeze, 50 should be reasonable.

     

    Dunno where this "know it all" crap comes from, as all I've done is spent the last few posts defending myself.

     

    I'm sure you're quite proud of the 10-dimes challenge, I'll get around to it, but who the hell here is talking about how awesome I am or cares?  I'd rather you come by and I just run circles around you in person.  Or get out-shot by a pro.  Don't care, it's fun either way.

    This thread hasn't been about my skills in the least.  Just my dislike of… ah ya know what, frak it.  Y'all are just a bunch of strangers to me and ain't worth the effort.

    Anyone with half a brain can read what I've said and come to their own conclusions.  Which isn't at all what you trolls seem to be feeding on.

     

    Meanwhile, another piss-ant to block, bleh. 

     

    Have at my corpse vultures.  later Cornhole.

     

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