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Oh and FYI, I heard Ted is selling a used Gauntlet for $399 shipped if anybody is interested
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New prices for used item! Down right disrespectful
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Oh and FYI, I heard Ted is selling a used Gauntlet for $399 shipped if anybody is interested
I don't see why it would be considered disrespectful.
A seller is free to offer their item for sale at whatever price they want, absurd or not.
As a buyer, you can make an offer (if the buyer didn't indicate "firm") or move on.
Unless it's a hard-to-find item you really, really want, ignore the ad and move on, it's not worth the hassle.
I see the same sort of thing with used gear sold on astronomy forums.
A seller is free to offer their item for sale at whatever price they want, absurd or not.
As a buyer, you can make an offer (if the buyer didn't indicate "firm") or move on.
Unless it's a hard-to-find item you really, really want, ignore the ad and move on, it's not worth the hassle.
I see the same sort of thing with used gear sold on astronomy forums.
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I would rather buy a used TESTED, AND PROVEN airgun for full price than a brand new one for less that i am unsure how it will shoot.
We live in a capitalist economy fellows. Calm down...
let the markets rise and fall according to demand.
We live in a capitalist economy fellows. Calm down...
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What I don't understand or honestly approve of (but not my site or rules) is every seller wanting friends / family payment. Many many sites (not gun related) delete or ban ads even hinting at payment that method.
For those not seeing my point , send me your gun that is for sale, once I receive it I will pay you friends / family. You're probably not interested in that , but it's the same risk I'm taking by sending you my money first....
For those not seeing my point , send me your gun that is for sale, once I receive it I will pay you friends / family. You're probably not interested in that , but it's the same risk I'm taking by sending you my money first....
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Smoke, actually with people who have been airgunning a good while and are well know it is not uncommon to ship prior to payment. If you really like airguns it isnt hard to meet a couple hundred other airgun folks which does make buying/selling a slightly different experience. Anyone unknown , payment first ( such is the world) & certainly no pay-pal. Once upon a time the best springers were made overseas and the fellow making them accepted ONLY Cash. Shooting often with someone who knew the maker and had dealt with them made this easier/safer but if just an internet person I wouldnt recomend that payment method.
Prices are. I just feel bad for the newbie ( "you've got to be nice to the new people so they'll keep coming back" ) who buy a used airgun for say $200 over what it was on sale for last month.
Also seems price range dependent sometimes with the lower end rigs going for full price.
But if you are a slightly savvy buyer high pricing seem to only be on current year models with all the old obsolete rigs like the RWS Excalibur, AA, others going for less than 50%.
OT:
How many do own a Red Ryder.
John
Prices are. I just feel bad for the newbie ( "you've got to be nice to the new people so they'll keep coming back" ) who buy a used airgun for say $200 over what it was on sale for last month.
Also seems price range dependent sometimes with the lower end rigs going for full price.
But if you are a slightly savvy buyer high pricing seem to only be on current year models with all the old obsolete rigs like the RWS Excalibur, AA, others going for less than 50%.
OT:
How many do own a Red Ryder.
John
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Sometimes a used gun at a brand-new price can be a bargain! Case in point- though I didn't get a brand-new price for it, I just sold a .22 Sumatra Carbine that I'd invested MANY hours of tuning, testing, more tuning, more testing, etc. For almost the price of a new one, the newbie airgunner got a professionally-tuned rifle for hundreds less than a new one professionally tuned later.
I can think of several airguns that perform somewhere between bad and laughable that well-tuned can shoot with anything at any price; that tuning sometimes involving dozens of hours. Pay a professional for that and you'll understand why a used gun at a new price can be an excellent BARGAIN.
Ron Robinson tuned .22 Sumatra Carbine at 97 yards (you can't do this with a factory-stock one)-
I can think of several airguns that perform somewhere between bad and laughable that well-tuned can shoot with anything at any price; that tuning sometimes involving dozens of hours. Pay a professional for that and you'll understand why a used gun at a new price can be an excellent BARGAIN.
Ron Robinson tuned .22 Sumatra Carbine at 97 yards (you can't do this with a factory-stock one)-
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Yeah!!! This is the same thing with the used iPhone market!!! To this day you still find iPhone 7 and plus for sale on Craigslist or letgo for like $600 and $750!!!!! WTF????
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Hahah. This is bad but it is also bad when you are asking for 70% of original cost and someone wants to offer half of what you are asking. Lowballing pisses the hell off of me.
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Would anyone sell, let's say a used Colt Python .357 revolver for less than original brand new price? If so, let me know I'll buy as many as you have.
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While I have yet to sell an air rifle, I have sold many a radio (one of my other hobbies is HAM radio.) I try to find what the going rate is on the used market. I check past eBay sales, and the used sections of dealers websites. Once I have a price range in mind, I subtract about 10% . As I dislike haggling since I do my research and know I am selling at a fair price, when I’m asked if I will take a lower price, I counter offer 30% above my asking price. They usually just walk away. One fellow wanted a radio I was selling for about $125. He only had $100. So he offers to throw in his wife as a trade. I asked what she looked like, and he showed me a picture of her. She was very good looking, but I already have a wife and didn’t need another one. He seemed dead serious. I felt bad for the wife.
No, I didn’t make the trade.
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Michael
WE4Q
No, I didn’t make the trade.
. Michael
WE4Q
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I try not to get upset with the prices people ask for things they are trying to sell. You never know why they are selling, is it a finically modavation or are they just tired of it and want something new? Have a friend that we joke to him about owning every gun in the world one at a time.
So it is discouraging with the prices asked expecialy when it's something I very much want, but hay it belongs to the seller. Had an interesting occurrence happen recently, was at a powder burner show and came across a table with a FWB80 setting on it. Not the greatest cosmetic shape but very much still a shooter. Price was in the high end of what they go for, I looked it over very well and talked to the seller about it but did not discuss money. Walked away to give it some thought (yes i googled it and looked up some selling prices on my phone) walked back over 5-10 minuets later and the gun was gone from the table. Well that was strange but hay I may not be the only person at the show that has a thing for expensive BB guns. Well I wandered the show for about an hour walk back by the table and low and behold the FWB was setting back on the table ! I was a bit taken back, when I first talked to the guy I got the feeling he was more interested in talking about this unusual gun than selling it, and I truly got the feeling he removed it from the table for fear I just might buy it. Do I know that for a fact, nope but it was an unusual thing.
i do not typically sell airguns online but have set up at a few airgun shows for a few years, yep my price tags typically are set whee I have some training or wiggle room. I do not get offended when an offer is given, man we are all there for the love of this unique hobby and some more freedom to neves the in it.
I hace gotten into some pretty wild trades that took hours to compleat. One that comes to memory was 4 for one. No money changing hands. Yes I had the 4 ! When it was over we each thought we got the best part of the deal. Thing is we still see each other at the same show and have trained and bought and sold with each other quite a few times since. All great fun
So it is discouraging with the prices asked expecialy when it's something I very much want, but hay it belongs to the seller. Had an interesting occurrence happen recently, was at a powder burner show and came across a table with a FWB80 setting on it. Not the greatest cosmetic shape but very much still a shooter. Price was in the high end of what they go for, I looked it over very well and talked to the seller about it but did not discuss money. Walked away to give it some thought (yes i googled it and looked up some selling prices on my phone) walked back over 5-10 minuets later and the gun was gone from the table. Well that was strange but hay I may not be the only person at the show that has a thing for expensive BB guns. Well I wandered the show for about an hour walk back by the table and low and behold the FWB was setting back on the table ! I was a bit taken back, when I first talked to the guy I got the feeling he was more interested in talking about this unusual gun than selling it, and I truly got the feeling he removed it from the table for fear I just might buy it. Do I know that for a fact, nope but it was an unusual thing.
i do not typically sell airguns online but have set up at a few airgun shows for a few years, yep my price tags typically are set whee I have some training or wiggle room. I do not get offended when an offer is given, man we are all there for the love of this unique hobby and some more freedom to neves the in it.
I hace gotten into some pretty wild trades that took hours to compleat. One that comes to memory was 4 for one. No money changing hands. Yes I had the 4 ! When it was over we each thought we got the best part of the deal. Thing is we still see each other at the same show and have trained and bought and sold with each other quite a few times since. All great fun
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Most of the time f&f payment is to save me money. You can do the official way and pay 3% more so I don’t see the problem. I’ve had great fun and success buying used on this forum for everything to jump right into this activity and have had nothing but good experiences. I’ve sold fitness equipment that I’ve used and no longer need and the thing that pisses me off is the resellers lowballing the crap at me when they sell it at my asking price. I’d sooner give it away that to one of those vultures. As for the rest, you can complain all you want, it just comes down to dollars & sense.
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Apologies in advance if someone is offended by my take on this. I play with guitars and the same thing carries over.
There are two ads on the forum right now that I laugh at every time I look at.
I bought it, tested it, clamped all kinds of cheap crap all over it marring the finish and completely obfuscating what it was built as, but I made it better, and now you should pay me more than new price, since I am a genius!
There is a sucker born every minute they say.
There are two ads on the forum right now that I laugh at every time I look at.
I bought it, tested it, clamped all kinds of cheap crap all over it marring the finish and completely obfuscating what it was built as, but I made it better, and now you should pay me more than new price, since I am a genius!
There is a sucker born every minute they say.
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I buy all my stuff used and pay cash , cars , motorbikes , mountain bikes , etc except guns I don't see the point of buying used at almost new prices so I buy new , some of the used prices are way to high imo unless it's Gus that you can no longer buy new
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I have to chuckle sometimes when I see some of the prices guys are asking, but in all fairness, everyone is free to ask anything they want. If someone is willing to pay it, it must be worth it to them. Sounds like you are looking to buy something and just can't find what you are looking for at the price you are willing to pay. Frustrating maybe, but not disrespectful.
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Hey Guys, Sometimes a person gets a gun and then they don't even really shoot it...or they take 100% pristine car of it making sure no fingerprints or dust ever gets on it (anal retentiveness saves lives!"). If they don't have alot of $ or PCP's they will want to get all they can out of the gun...and it's just like buying a new gun for the buyer...in reality. ...if it really is one of these safe queen type guns.
What I do in those situations is politely explain to the seller that "this is what they sell for new right now: at this place...etc...and then try and work out a price that works for both of us. You get more flies with Honey.
The bigger problem with buying USED GUNS is:
You must clean your new airgun BEFORE you shoot it....most people don't know this...and you must clean it with a Soft Nylon Cleaning rod, not a metal cleaning rod (will damage the crown).
I have been asking people left and right "has the air gun ever been cleaned?" ...don't lead them...just say that.
A: 75% of guns are not cleaned before shooting / resulting in less than perfect accuracy.
That is why, although I enjoyed buying and selling Used Air Guns, I can't really buy used air guns anymore to test on my Airgun Channel because it wouldn't be right...I need a new gun so I can see the true accuracy out of the box. ...sad but true. My bank account is pissed and has been being a BI#$& for a while now as a result of my new policy.
What I do in those situations is politely explain to the seller that "this is what they sell for new right now: at this place...etc...and then try and work out a price that works for both of us. You get more flies with Honey.
The bigger problem with buying USED GUNS is:
You must clean your new airgun BEFORE you shoot it....most people don't know this...and you must clean it with a Soft Nylon Cleaning rod, not a metal cleaning rod (will damage the crown).
I have been asking people left and right "has the air gun ever been cleaned?" ...don't lead them...just say that.
A: 75% of guns are not cleaned before shooting / resulting in less than perfect accuracy.
That is why, although I enjoyed buying and selling Used Air Guns, I can't really buy used air guns anymore to test on my Airgun Channel because it wouldn't be right...I need a new gun so I can see the true accuracy out of the box. ...sad but true. My bank account is pissed and has been being a BI#$& for a while now as a result of my new policy.
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Quote: Ron Robinson tuned .22 Sumatra Carbine at 97 yards (you can't do this with a factory-stock one)-
HOLY SCHNIKIES!!! That is awesome! -Nate @ Youtube's Airgun Channel
HOLY SCHNIKIES!!! That is awesome! -Nate @ Youtube's Airgun Channel
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