Oh gosh, I'm far from a TV personality!!!
I can't believe someone thumbs downed my video already!
I can't believe someone thumbs downed my video already!
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New permission just now....
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I think he missed your question. In the video he says he just go talk to the farmers and offer his services to remove the pests for free.
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Yes, I'm so sorry. Been super busy this last few days leading up to the start of school (tomorrow). I still have a 15 year old at home. 
Here are my tips for gaining permissions, note that these are "small" farms with the owners living on premises. It may be different at larger farms.
Once you've identified a need for pest control, you need to speak with the owner, husband or wife for instance. Have at least one rifle and be ready to shoot in case the farmer would like to see the rifle and hear it.........many of these old school farmers have no idea of the technology of modern air rifles, and also don't know how quiet they are. And look presentable.....last two times I approached farmers I was wearing blue jeans, a tucked-in T-shirt with belt and a ball cap. Probably won't hurt to have an American Flag somewhere on your shirt or hat.....I'm serious about this.
Now perhaps the most important part, get straight to the point of why you're there and ask if they would like help getting rid of the pest birds. In my case since I don't charge, I say "free help". So here is how my last greeting went almost word-for-word:
Morning Mam, I'm Bob and I do free pest bird control for farmers. I notice you have a serious issue with pigeons and starlings, and was wondering if you would like me to help you get rid of them. I don't charge anything and would be glad to answer any questions you might have.
So the response from the wife being she was the one who was home at the time was, "Well it's good that you don't charge because we can't afford to pay". It's important that you keep to dialogue going, as you want to keep saying things that will work to your benefit before they start thinking of a way to say No. So at this point I tell them how I get rid of the birds by saying I use a silenced air rifle, it's low-powered and safe, it won't worry your cows or horses at all, and chances are you'll only know I'm here if you see me, my rifles are so quiet that they are nearly silent.
At this point you might get asked what an air rifle is. My response to that is I used a highly specialized modern pellet gun, it's very accurate and effective, and I only take shots on birds when I know its safe and there is no risk of endangering your animals or property. It was at this point when the wife proceeded to point out all the pigeons sitting on the barn roof, and she went on to tell a story about how her boys would try to shoot them with BB guns "but that was years ago, they're all grown up and moved out and those birds have taken over". "If you go into the barn you can see the bird crap all over the gates and rails, you can't even touch anything in there without gloves on".
At this point I know I'm "IN", but again just keep the dialogue going. I then said I have my equipment with me and can start dealing with these birds right now if that's okay with you, but I'd like to walk around a bit to make sure I know where the cows are. The wife then proceeded to point out where her animals were and told me I could start shooting whenever I wanted to. So I said I'll be around for a good couple of hours if that's okay and she said take all the time you need.
While I was walking around the farm yard checking on the location of the animals and doing a survey, I was approached by the husband who said, "You must be Bob". I said Yes Sir, good to meet you......I just got done talking with the Mrs. and wanted to make sure of where the cows were before I start taking care of the birds. At this same time I extended my hand for a hand-shake. He then said, "So you use a silencer on your pellet gun?" I said Yes, would you like to see my equipment? It's still in my car right there. So we walked to the car and I broke out the Wildcat and his eyes lit up! He said, "That's a pellet gun"? I said Yes Sir, modern precision air rifle, highly specialized, very accurate and super quiet, made just for doing this kind of thing.
So the rest is history, I mean in the video. He asked me how close I need to get to the pigeons to hit them and I told him I can get them from right here where we're standing (it was about 50 yards away). He said, "That's a pretty far shot" and I told him that it was actually an easy shot when the wind isn't too bad. He said, "Well, there's a lot to shoot at around here, how many do you think you can get?" I told him I could get all of them as long as they sat there like that, but also said that it would likely take several visits to get them all. I told him that I visit his area about once a week and asked if it was okay to come back. He said to show up whenever I want, that there was no need to call, just stop in.
That's basically it. I hope this helps.
Here are my tips for gaining permissions, note that these are "small" farms with the owners living on premises. It may be different at larger farms.
Once you've identified a need for pest control, you need to speak with the owner, husband or wife for instance. Have at least one rifle and be ready to shoot in case the farmer would like to see the rifle and hear it.........many of these old school farmers have no idea of the technology of modern air rifles, and also don't know how quiet they are. And look presentable.....last two times I approached farmers I was wearing blue jeans, a tucked-in T-shirt with belt and a ball cap. Probably won't hurt to have an American Flag somewhere on your shirt or hat.....I'm serious about this.
Now perhaps the most important part, get straight to the point of why you're there and ask if they would like help getting rid of the pest birds. In my case since I don't charge, I say "free help". So here is how my last greeting went almost word-for-word:
Morning Mam, I'm Bob and I do free pest bird control for farmers. I notice you have a serious issue with pigeons and starlings, and was wondering if you would like me to help you get rid of them. I don't charge anything and would be glad to answer any questions you might have.
So the response from the wife being she was the one who was home at the time was, "Well it's good that you don't charge because we can't afford to pay". It's important that you keep to dialogue going, as you want to keep saying things that will work to your benefit before they start thinking of a way to say No. So at this point I tell them how I get rid of the birds by saying I use a silenced air rifle, it's low-powered and safe, it won't worry your cows or horses at all, and chances are you'll only know I'm here if you see me, my rifles are so quiet that they are nearly silent.
At this point you might get asked what an air rifle is. My response to that is I used a highly specialized modern pellet gun, it's very accurate and effective, and I only take shots on birds when I know its safe and there is no risk of endangering your animals or property. It was at this point when the wife proceeded to point out all the pigeons sitting on the barn roof, and she went on to tell a story about how her boys would try to shoot them with BB guns "but that was years ago, they're all grown up and moved out and those birds have taken over". "If you go into the barn you can see the bird crap all over the gates and rails, you can't even touch anything in there without gloves on".
At this point I know I'm "IN", but again just keep the dialogue going. I then said I have my equipment with me and can start dealing with these birds right now if that's okay with you, but I'd like to walk around a bit to make sure I know where the cows are. The wife then proceeded to point out where her animals were and told me I could start shooting whenever I wanted to. So I said I'll be around for a good couple of hours if that's okay and she said take all the time you need.
While I was walking around the farm yard checking on the location of the animals and doing a survey, I was approached by the husband who said, "You must be Bob". I said Yes Sir, good to meet you......I just got done talking with the Mrs. and wanted to make sure of where the cows were before I start taking care of the birds. At this same time I extended my hand for a hand-shake. He then said, "So you use a silencer on your pellet gun?" I said Yes, would you like to see my equipment? It's still in my car right there. So we walked to the car and I broke out the Wildcat and his eyes lit up! He said, "That's a pellet gun"? I said Yes Sir, modern precision air rifle, highly specialized, very accurate and super quiet, made just for doing this kind of thing.
So the rest is history, I mean in the video. He asked me how close I need to get to the pigeons to hit them and I told him I can get them from right here where we're standing (it was about 50 yards away). He said, "That's a pretty far shot" and I told him that it was actually an easy shot when the wind isn't too bad. He said, "Well, there's a lot to shoot at around here, how many do you think you can get?" I told him I could get all of them as long as they sat there like that, but also said that it would likely take several visits to get them all. I told him that I visit his area about once a week and asked if it was okay to come back. He said to show up whenever I want, that there was no need to call, just stop in.
That's basically it. I hope this helps.
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His last post was 7:08 pm. I have only blinked twice since then....
LOL!!!!
https://youtu.be/ZanYMF0sMcI
Bob, you need a better IR if you’re going out that far. It will be crystal clear once you do
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That wasn't it.....rather it was a combination of a few things.
I had the light sensitivity on High in Night mode as it was just past dusk- before the IR illuminator made any difference. It was too dark for day mode.
As the next 15 min went by, I didn't change the settings and the IR illuminator was then too bright with the sensitivity still set to High. Had the sensitivity been on Low, it would have reduced the washout significantly.
Next time under those same conditions I'll just need to make sure the sensitivity is set on Low.
I had the light sensitivity on High in Night mode as it was just past dusk- before the IR illuminator made any difference. It was too dark for day mode.
As the next 15 min went by, I didn't change the settings and the IR illuminator was then too bright with the sensitivity still set to High. Had the sensitivity been on Low, it would have reduced the washout significantly.
Next time under those same conditions I'll just need to make sure the sensitivity is set on Low.
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ahh. yeah, there is a that time (an hour or so) when neither really works. I have mine set to Low all the time. One thing you can try is to put the sun shade on, and turn it to night mode during dusk. It's sounds counter intuitive, but I've had good luck that way. Lastly, make sure you're filming in 60FPS, and during post editing adjust the lighting. It ususally only takes a little bump in the brightness, but you can mess with the contrast too. I made a custom filter, and called it "ATN Dusk"... and I just apply it whenever it's a little dark. This way I don't have to fiddle with the settings.
You'd laugh if you saw my setup. I have camera's and huge IR lights mounted all over the place. If you're up for a giggle, here you go: http://www.edgunleshiy.com/blog/2018/8/3/edgun-leshiy-night-pesting-kit/
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That would be the ticket!!
I've stretched my budget to the max in the last month or so and can't afford to enhance my setup. It would be nice to have IR lights to flood the area and just not worry about the gun mounted light.
I've stretched my budget to the max in the last month or so and can't afford to enhance my setup. It would be nice to have IR lights to flood the area and just not worry about the gun mounted light.
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I hear you... this sport is like owning a boat (break, out, another, thousand)
While you were responding I added something above to my comment... try that and see if it helps
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Yes, unless they are depredating then they can be shot.
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Yes, unless they are depredating then they can be shot.
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Good information, appreciate it.
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No problem!!
I didn't know about all this until I was asked by the farmer to shoot crows out of season. As you may have noticed, crows are on the same list.
I didn't know about all this until I was asked by the farmer to shoot crows out of season. As you may have noticed, crows are on the same list.
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Keep them coming Thank Yote!
My next video might be Benjamin Maximus 22 vs. FX Streamline 22 on the farm!
Being I'm without the Wildcat, I have to bring the Maximus as a back up.
Last time I shot that I thought 35 yds was a long shot!!
;-)
My next video might be Benjamin Maximus 22 vs. FX Streamline 22 on the farm!
Being I'm without the Wildcat, I have to bring the Maximus as a back up.
Last time I shot that I thought 35 yds was a long shot!!
;-)
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I think that’s one of your best videos to date. I really enjoy the scope cam footage, especially watching the sparrows get smacked.
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Thanks Viking!
I try to make each video at least as good as the previous....but am always looking at ways to make new ones better. Sometimes it's difficult without a camera person.
I try to make each video at least as good as the previous....but am always looking at ways to make new ones better. Sometimes it's difficult without a camera person.
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I just sold it. If fact the new owner should be taking possession of it today! JimInWichita on these forums.
I'll get a new gun in a week or so, just not sure what it's going to be. Not a bullpup as I told Jim, that design just didn't work out for me. A rifle feels way more natural and comfortable.....that's just me.
The gun was perfect and an excellent performer.
I'll get a new gun in a week or so, just not sure what it's going to be. Not a bullpup as I told Jim, that design just didn't work out for me. A rifle feels way more natural and comfortable.....that's just me.
The gun was perfect and an excellent performer.
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Bob. I love my Huntsman Regal HR. I just wish I had gotten it in .22 rather than .177
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