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    cally88
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    OK so let me preface….. I have had both a  condor .22 and a TalonP .25 PCP air rifles.  Both were extremely quiet in my backyard with a Talon Tunes shroud attached.  My only complaint about either would be the OAL.  I feel like the next step in my PCP endeavor would be to jump to a bull pup.  My requests are that the next gun be as quiet as the Airforce guns with shroud with a similar/increased FPE.  Most of my hunting has been within 50y but I do not want to limit myself.  At this point my goal is to decrease my OAL and to convert to a BP configuration.  I have been extremely happy with both the .22 and .25 but the length of the .22 forced me to sell.  Just crunching numbers in chair gun has me leaning toward .25 or greater, but I am not convinced……

    I have been looking at:

    1) FX impact in silver (caliber does not matter)  well lets face it this seems to be the BP to beat……. adjustable caliber/adjustable everything
    2) Vulcan (like the .25 but not completely against the .22)  shortest OAL

    Honstely speaking my first 2 choices are the Impact and the Vulcan, and the next “best” choices are the Wildcat and Cricket.

    3) Wildcat (well I feel like this is a more reasonable price option for the impact)
    4) Cricket (Similar the the WC in price, and similar features)

    I would greatly appreciate your opinions……

    Cally

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    linsfreak
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    I own a Kalibr cricket bullpup, Vulcan, and a brake barrel. So many rifles, handguns and different sizes. I will say it not easy to make a choice.

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    KYAirgunner
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    The Vulcan is a really awesome gun and there are plenty of reviews to prove it. The Impact looks like its really cool but there have been some flaws on it like guns usually have starting out. My vote for now goes to the Vulcan but if the Impact starts to get its quality control down it could be a very awesome bullpub. another thing you have to consider is the barrels those two guns use, the Vulcan uses CZ and the Impact uses ST so with the impact you are most likely subjected to just a couple of different pellets compared to the Vulcan were you might be able to get a few more different kinds. the down side to the CZ barrel is that is just needs to be cleaned more often than the ST barrel. I’m not sure about sound but i know the Vulcan’s accuracy will definitely get you out past 50+ yards. anyway good luck with your decision but i say if you were going to go with the impact you might want to wait a year for reviews and they get there quality figured out.

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    Tominco
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    cally88 – That’s a terrific list of guns to choose from! Good luck!
    I can’t speak to the Cricket or the Vulcan since I have not owned either one. However, I do own both the Impact and the Wildcat. I like them both and would have a hard time putting one over the other. They both have their pro’s and con’s. The Cricket is on my “buy list” but keeps getting bumped down. It certainly has gained a good reputation for itself. I’d recommend maybe making a pro’s and con’s list for each rifle and seeing which one fits best for what you intend to do with it.

    .22 vs .25 could be a debate all by itself! I was pleasantly amazed at the difference when I went from .177 to .22. Then, it happened all over again from .22 to .25. Now, I’m looking back to .22. It’s a real toss up between the two (for me) as to which one is “better”. If you’re primary purpose is hunting then I’d lean towards the .25. Competition – .22 to comply with rules. Loooong range – .25 because of the ability to buck the wind and the new JSB heavies seem to be doing very well with the long range consistency. Cost – .22 Availability – .22. In a pinch, .22’s can be found at WallyWorld but good luck finding .25’s! I could go back and forth all day long.
    Ted’s got a video from a while back about the knock down power of 22 vs 25. But remember, he started out taking the long kill shots with a .22 and succeeding. So, the .22 still has a good amount of “oomph” behind it.
    Tom

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    rockymtbiker
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    Adding to Tominco’s comments, you might want to check out the SHOT coverage which starts tomorrow (1/19).  As Tom says, the Cricket has a great rep for accuracy but the thing that has kept me from biting is the weight.  Rumor has it that they’re bringing an “ultralight” rifle to SHOT.  My dream is that a manufacturer has finally listened to what we’ve been writing on the forums for a couple of years now and has finally decided to go with carbon fiber for a synthetic stock.

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    ztirffritz
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    You might also check out our map to see if anyone close to you has any of the guns on your list.  I’m sure they’d be happy to share with you.

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    rockymtbiker
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    Excellent suggestion, ztirffritz; perhaps even check the Yellow Pages for gun ranges that welcome airguns and call them and ask if there are any members who would be willing to let you try your choices.  We airgunners like to proselytize. 🙂

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    “rockymtbiker”Adding to Tominco’s comments, you might want to check out the SHOT coverage which starts tomorrow (1/19).  As Tom says, the Cricket has a great rep for accuracy but the thing that has kept me from biting is the weight.  Rumor has it that they’re bringing an “ultralight” rifle to SHOT.  My dream is that a manufacturer has finally listened to what we’ve been writing on the forums for a couple of years now and has finally decided to go with carbon fiber for a synthetic stock.

    Just a thought – a very light .22 PCP already exists.  When my brother received his new synthetic stock FX Royale 400 .22 last January, it was received with a 470cc carbon fiber bottle.  We weighed the bare rifle on my digital scales and we were shocked to see the rifle weighed just under 5 pounds.  It feels feather light and is a dream for carrying all day in the field or for all afternoon, marathon-type off-hand, sibling rivalry competitions that we shoot.  I and surprised FX does not advertise the exceptional low weight of the synthetic stock Royal 400.    
     

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    Oregun
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    Cally, it was a tough choice for me as well ..  I recently made the splurge and bought a 25 cal Wildcat.
    It all comes down to the features that are most important to you …  Here’s what I liked about WC:

    => Light Weight
    => Easy to load, forward facing lever
    => Magazine type – I don’t care for the spring loaded mags
    => Noise level – backyard friendly out of the box
    => Synthetic Stock

    If I had the money, I’d own all 3!  

    -Carl

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