New SLUGS FOR .22 And .25 Caliber

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jwrabbit123

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Hi I got an email today from GMI Engineering they made slug swag kits for FX X barrels in 22 and 25 caliber .. . I did order both to test out but I dont know how they work yet , if anyone has tried these please post results

LOU

they did say this so it is a poor mans swag kit , I did used to own a Corbin Swag machine . this you just use a press , and weights on corbi were adjusted by where tooling sits I am not sure how this works I dont see threads to adjust weights of slugs it is entry level my guess is they give you like shime to make different weight ammo .and like corin swag you replace pins to make different heads or skirts ect ......................

Mod Edit: removed deceiving title (FX)

Hello Lou, We would like to fulfill your wish. Stay in touch for we have very exciting news for every airgun enthusiast out there. Well, whats the good news?

Here is a Hint,



You buy only one die set for .22 slugs.


  1. We emphasize on you buying only ONE die set. for usd$200. 
  2. The kit is modular so you can use the die set to make 20 to 55 grain slugs. 
  3. While doing so you can order custom punches to make the heads in different types, Round nose, Wadcutter, Hollowpoint etc. 
  4. You can make the bands of different sizes for different .22 guns eg .217 for FX and .217 body and .220 rear band for Lothar Walther. 
  5. More than 50 combinations from ONE die set
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    https://www.gmiestore.com/







    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=fDbbDrh2bOM









 
Update I emailed GMI and asked some questions



1 i dont see lead being extruded from bleed hole , how can amo be made constant if it isnt bleeding out a hole ?

2 what is meant by fx modular ?

3 how can you change weight with out having threads on the die and adjusting it on your press ?

HERE IS WHAT THEY SAID


Hello Lou, 
I would like to answer you in descending order.


  1. We have provided bleeding holes in the die, the function of these bleeding holes is to prevent damaging the internals of the die and to get the excess material out in case of heavy pressure on the plunger. We have pioneered the design wherein the pure lead wire deforms with minimum pressure, so you would need to press it with the press until you feel the resistance of lead to move down further. Since you use a tiny 1-ton arbor press the bleeding won't be that what you see in the hydraulic press of 10 ton or toggle presses from Corbin. Consistency plays a vital role here, If you use this ( https://www.yoycart.com/Product/549733844649/) cutter then you will cut a consistent length of the wire and you will get consistent results as you press down until you feel the resistance and no further. The variation is 0.05 grains per 15 slugs. You can see our .22 samples getting checked (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1arqDl8y1x4KDBztfJgYhlb5HY-8j85ET/view?usp=sharing)
  2. Theoretically the length of wire you cut and its diameter decide the weight of slug you swage. So if your gun accepts slugs up to 13mm in length then you can make up to 60-grain slug from the same kit in .25 cal. 
  3. The die doesn't move up and down the punch moves up and down. 
  4. The weight is adjusted based on the length of wire you cut and its diameter. 
  5. The modular kit was with reference to FX Dreamline where you can use a single platform to add different custom extras like stocks, grips, barrels etc. In our case you only need to buy the basic kit, The additional inserts like boat tail, drive bands, hollow point punches, etc can be purchased as an optional extra, hence you are not stuck with one style of the slug, you can make vivid varieties from one kit so What we sell online is 1. Basic kit.(.22/25) 2. Universal kit (coming in July 2019 with the extras). That's it
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    Thanks, Ken ..




    OK he is saying the lead does not extrude from a bleed hole to make ammo constant , and his bleedholes are there to protect tooling from blowing apart from pressures . he is saying just cut bigger pieces of lead wire to make heavier slugs

    I my self cant buy it but I hope it works if you guys get it . I dont want slugs to be made by cutting a length with a pliers, the tooling I have now bleeds out lead to make each one precise .

    I hope it works for guys who try it LOU

 
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I would like to clarify some issues. I am Ken and I did respond to Lou's questions. First things first, The title of this thread is confusing, We are not affiliated to FX or FX slugs. And I think that's not the elephant in the room. The thing is answering a few questions that may lead to misunderstanding. 

1. The intent of my Die set is self-reliance at the most affordable cost. 

2. There are pellet making dies from UK based manufacturer which are labeled as .22 or .25 dies, We dont do that we adhere to FX's notification related to FX slug X barrels, hence our dies produce slugs with .217"diameter in .22 and .250" diameter in .25 that corresponds to 5.51mm and 6.35mm with variance of 0.005mm. So if our dies state .250" diameter then they will be true to .250" size they won't measure .251", so they are precise. Thanks to our Tsugami machines.

3. Consistency is a key in any process, We have specified a superior Chinese made shearing device which Gregor (), Claudio and Matt use to cut their Lead wire ( https://www.yoycart.com/Product/549733844649/). The special shear makes sure that the end to end distance of the wire is constant. (note: Gregor, Claudio or matt are not affiliated to these websites or the products, they were bundled with the kits they had purchased) 

4. Bleeding lead is possible through our dies, But it's not possible with the press we use or recommend, ($45 1 ton arbor press). If a user has $400 or more worth Hydraulic press/ toggle press then bleeding excess lead is easy. provided that you provide a solid overtravel stop to our punch because we dont provide it as it's not required for a $45 arbor press setup,

our principle is, less no of parts and speed.

That's all. 
 
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Set is arribed well packed and with some plears and lead to test it
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Some 6.35mm slugs for Huben .25 and airforce condor

the round nose measures 12 mm in length and weighs at 49.6 to 50 grains, Wire cut with repurposed wire stripper that costs less than $3 if you make it yourself. Hence the variance, but it's in the acceptable ballpark. The semi-wadcutter is shorter at 6.8 mm and weighs in at 36 grains. 

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