new .357 bulldog ammo test

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    TheLakeRat
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    So i managed to get my hands on a box of the new Aero-Magnum ammo that Trenier outdoors is selling.

    I’ve had a hard time finding ammo that shoots in my bulldog, as alot of people have been too. I’ve been using the Mr. Hollowpoint 140g, and it did pretty good but after a little tuning these new 128.5g Devastators are doing very well indeed.
    first picture is at 52 yrds  and second is at 102. and then i shot it into some homemade ballistics gel (1pound of Knotts to 1 gallon of water). it penetrated 9 7/8′

    Just thought some of y’all might be interested. I’ve got more on the way and the owner of Aero-Magnum is going to send me some new ones that are heavier.

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    Marksman3006
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    That outta be a hard hitting mother. I would take it out hog hunting down here in Louisiana. Good groups

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    Willie14228
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    Hey, lake Rat, the mic on spent slugs is that what hit the gel or your backstop,
    What kind of expansion did you get in the gel, and did you see any sign of tumbling in the gel

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    TheLakeRat
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    That was the slug that was recovered in the gel. It did not look like it was tumbling. It recovered at 9 7/8″ deep into about 14″ block of gel. It look like went further and then bounced back a couple on inches in the gel.

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    ajshoots
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    Impressive!! I have only been shooting 81gr JSB’S because I haven’t found any bullets worth shooting from my bulldog. Will have to order some of these. Thanks for the post!!

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    Willie14228
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    That is impressive wonder what type of lead they are using, even my 50 cal BP has a hard time making that kind of mushroom on slugs 

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    TheLakeRat
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    No problem AJ, I had a very hard time finding ammo too. None and I mean NONE of the AirVenturi stuff would shoot worth a darn.

    Willie, I don’t know. But it feels really slick and soft. But it also comes in a really nice box where it’s protected.
    Owner said it had a micron thin layer of a coating on the outside to help with lube. But they don’t feel oily or sticky like most prelubed bullets.

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    Willie14228
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    I have cast my own slugs and so learned a little about the process, I actually did not know there was such a technical process to the whole ordeal but there are a huge amount of alloys that can be mixed with the lead to get different hardness and weight ratios per round.
    Talk about a balancing act it can be a total hair pulling experience. 
    What ever the case it looks like you got your hands on some real good knock down power, that kind of expansion is going to hit like a sledge hammer 

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    TheLakeRat
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    I agree!
    I was planning on going hunting tonight but my wife has come down with a horrible cold and so it looks like I will be taking care of her and the kids tonight.

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    TheLakeRat
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    So it took me a few days but here is the video.

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    jland48
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    I have been trying to make up my mind to buy a Bulldog. Do you recommend this rifle to other air gunners? It seems to be hard to get decent groups with according to what I read in most blogs.

     

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    TheLakeRat
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    My recommendation would depend on what you want the gun to do.
    If you are just hunting rabbits or prairie dogs or smaller animals, or just shooting bench rest ,then I would say No.
    But if you are hunting larger animals like hog, deer, coyote’s or varmits, then absolutely.
    Just like every gun, you just have to find the best bullet / power level for that particular gun.

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    TheLakeRat
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    Thanks for getting this in the correct section moderator.

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    wll2506
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    Since I have gotten my bull dog I have been doing a bit of playing with her ….. This gun is very, very powerful and she is loud … loud to the point that today was my first shot and my right ear hurt from the loud report. For me this is a earplug gun !

    ​I gave her two twist up on the hammer spring so I’m now getting a nice bell curve of 779, 819, 795 and 785 fps .. I did not shoot a fifth shot. This is a 4 shot gun and one for emergencies as the way I look at it.

    ​I’m deciding if I want to open up the valve/barrel port to ~.250+ … time will tell, but she will get another ~35 – 50 fps with this modification and that is a good amount of energy difference on these heavy slugs.

    ​From my very, very, very  limited experience shooting with this gun .. ONE DAY .. She is a hunting powerhouse for Yotes, 100lb ish Pig and Medium Deer and other critters of that ilk ! This is not a gun I would even consider for GS and Jacks. The smallest game I would go after would be Big Coon, Big Possum, etc. , this is a serious medium game hunting gun, and as I said, it  is very powerful and loud. This is a 50-75 ish yard gun I think depending on what you are hunting and the accuracy of your gun and pills.

    ​For me this gun is so powerful and loud I have reservations on where to shoot it. Most of the places I shoot have ranch houses 400 – 600+ yards away …  This gun would bring attention to me shooting and the police would be on their way for sure, not to mention the power it has if you should have a ricochet – My airgun shooting places are now out of the question for this gun.

    ​Just my thoughts after a day of shooting with my Bulldog

    ​wll2506

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    TheLakeRat
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    Well, go to my you tube video
    That gun is quieter than me hitting a hammer on a board. The impact is louder than the report.
    Just like any gun it can be quiet.
    It’s just as quite as my 300 blackout with a custom silencer.

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    TheLakeRat
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    Oh and you can drill the port out to .277

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    Brghtboi
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    Lake Rat,

    How did the Mr. Hollowpoint 140’s do in comparison?  Also, what mod’s have you done to your Bulldog?  Watching your Devastator accuracy video I hear you say that you have those 128.5 grains moving at 866 fps… that’s 214 fpe… 

    Also, I bought some sound dampening material to quiet my Bulldog down.  I believe you did the same.  How and where did you apply that?

    Regards,

    Brghtboi

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    TheLakeRat
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    I think the Devastators were slightly better than Mr. Hollowpoint but they did pretty well also. It seems the best group i could get out of those was about 2.5″ at 50 yards but i’ve slept since then.

    As for mods on mine, thats a long list.

    I think as of filming of that video i had drilled the transfer port to .277, taken the valve spring out, put some poly tube inside for a depinger, added sound deadening material everywhere i could, and tightened the hammer spring to about 2.5 turns from all the way tight. oh and i also built a LDC that slides up inside the shroud to support the end of the barrel better and make it much quieter too. I will be selling those soon.

    Now i’m running a longer tube at 4500psi with a regulator

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    Brghtboi
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    Lake Rat,

    Right…. 2.5″ at 50 isn’t bad although it looks like the Devastators are capable of 1.5″ at 50.  Have you had luck with heavier bullets, say 158 or 165 grain?

    I was trying to follow the transfer port mod on another forum.  It looks like it’s two pathways that get cleared, one that leads to the valve and one directly inline with the barrel… That sound right?  I have hand tools only so I’d need to be super careful.  Last thing I want to do is to destroy the Bulldog.  Do you know of any tutorial that’s available on that?  Also, I purchased some sound dampening material… the stuff with one sticky side and the other is metallic.  I’m planning on wrapping or partially wrapping the air reservoir.  Where else is a candidate for using that material in the Bulldog?  Let me know when you get some of those LDC’s completed, I’ll take one.

    I hand pump so I’m not sure how well taking out the valve spring will work.  I may give it a try… 

    I did see your video where you purchased an airbow reservoir and modded the Bulldog to use it, very very cool.  Unfortunately my skill level is nowhere near that.  However, if I could get a few 200+ FPE shots from the Bulldog it’d suit just fine.

    Lastly, have you tested just making adjustments to the hammer spring?  If so, what results did you see? Would there be any advantage to only adjusting the hammer spring and removing the valve spring?  I’m a bit nervous about hand drilling the transfer port, especially if I can get what I need with less risk.

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    spysir
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    Thank you for posting, Bulldog info is hard to find.   I too would have a use for a regulated big-bore.  But no matter about the extra tube and adaptor and reg ( that would be a good ways off)  please post any more information and or pictures you might have.

    Thanks,
    John 

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