Need Help....Daystate Redwolf Safari or FX Crown Continuum .22 cal?
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$600 difference between the two, but yes, looks wise it is a Volvo to a Ferrari (Range Rover) you don’t take a Ferrari hunting.
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+1 on the Crown. I love my .25cal Continuum.
The new “sideshot” mags work great. Easy to take apart and clean. It’s also easy to adjust the spring tension on them.
Hopefully Daystate has there new mags figured out. 2-3K on and airgun you have to single load seems mind boggling to me.
Here’s my last 5 shot group at 70yds 380mm 25.4 JSB’s straight from the tin and into the mag. I’ve done quite a bit of testing with both my mags vs a Carm single loader and I see no issues from first pellet to the last in my mags.
With about 6,000 pellets down this liner it just keeps getting better. I’ll be getting a superior liner soon.
The Redwolf would sure have to be something special to get me to part with an additional $1,500. If money’s no object give one a try. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed either way.
The new “sideshot” mags work great. Easy to take apart and clean. It’s also easy to adjust the spring tension on them.
Hopefully Daystate has there new mags figured out. 2-3K on and airgun you have to single load seems mind boggling to me.
Here’s my last 5 shot group at 70yds 380mm 25.4 JSB’s straight from the tin and into the mag. I’ve done quite a bit of testing with both my mags vs a Carm single loader and I see no issues from first pellet to the last in my mags.
With about 6,000 pellets down this liner it just keeps getting better. I’ll be getting a superior liner soon.
The Redwolf would sure have to be something special to get me to part with an additional $1,500. If money’s no object give one a try. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed either way.
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Most of the rifles used with the old style mag will scar up the probe a bit from the actuator lever. But, IMO, the primary accuracy issue is imperfect alignment as the pellet is fed into the breech. I have used many rifles with different mag designs, and the only ones I have had that shoot as well from the magazine are the HW100 and Taipan Veteran. Both use a simple rotating cylinder that is mechanically advanced and locked in place, very much as a handgun revolver's cylinder.
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I ground off some material from the actuator lever on the magazines and it made an amazing difference in accuracy. I now see very little difference between using the shot tray and the magazine.
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I have CARM MAGAZINES that seem to not affect accuracy. Only time will tell.
Not ALL Daystate magazines are junk. Only MOST.
Not ALL Daystate magazines are junk. Only MOST.
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That's interesting, and kind of puzzling. At the time that lever strikes the probe, I assume the pellet has left the breech, so I don't see how accuracy is affected. I don't doubt you at all, just don't really understand it.
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All manufacturers of anything have issues. The manner in which they deal with them separates the great from the mediocre.
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So would you say denying a problem that damages the gun and blowing people off saying its just cosmetic would be a bad way to deal with it?
*Then getting the thread locked.
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I must be the only one who has never had accuracy issues when magazine feeding any of my Daystate Rifles. The .25 Safari I currently own is equally as accurate with the magazine and the single shot tray. Occasionally I’ll have a flyer that I can only explain as a bad pellet. I don’t wash pellets, I don’t inspect them, I don’t sort them. I just shoot and I shoot a lot.
As for the OP’s original inquiry, as many have mentioned, you literally cannot go wrong with your decision. Once you get into the “high end” airguns, it all comes down to personal preference in the features you like. The Daystate Rifles are in my opinion, the highest quality rifles out there today. The electronic technology has been around for a while and you rarely, if ever, hear about any electronic based problems with Daystate rifles.
The Daystate rifles shoot well right out of the box. The trigger is, well... a mouse click. It’s light and precise. The FX triggers are mechanical but also outstanding. The build quality / fit and finish is impeccable with the Daystate rifles. The FX rifles I had looked nice but just weren’t built as solidly as the Daystates.
The Daystate Safari is a pretty penny but the older Daystate Airwolf MCT’s can be found used for very reasonable prices and they shoot very well. That’s another option. Bottom line, you get what you pay for in my opinion with the Daystate. It’s a well engineered rifle that utilizes truly modern technology to give you great accuracy, shootability and consistency.
As for the OP’s original inquiry, as many have mentioned, you literally cannot go wrong with your decision. Once you get into the “high end” airguns, it all comes down to personal preference in the features you like. The Daystate Rifles are in my opinion, the highest quality rifles out there today. The electronic technology has been around for a while and you rarely, if ever, hear about any electronic based problems with Daystate rifles.
The Daystate rifles shoot well right out of the box. The trigger is, well... a mouse click. It’s light and precise. The FX triggers are mechanical but also outstanding. The build quality / fit and finish is impeccable with the Daystate rifles. The FX rifles I had looked nice but just weren’t built as solidly as the Daystates.
The Daystate Safari is a pretty penny but the older Daystate Airwolf MCT’s can be found used for very reasonable prices and they shoot very well. That’s another option. Bottom line, you get what you pay for in my opinion with the Daystate. It’s a well engineered rifle that utilizes truly modern technology to give you great accuracy, shootability and consistency.
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Thee probe damage problem were prevalent in the HP versions too much air popping the index pin up at a high rate of speed while the spent empty chamber rested on one side of theprobe.like a jack hammer when Daystate should have incorporated a mechanical cocking index system for them if they were smart.
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Many of The old Daystate magazines have some issues where the waiting chamber some time doesn't align perfectly to the breech thus damaging the pellet up on upon closing the lever home.
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Thats all well and good, but when customers start a thread about it and more and more people mention it. Then the official response is oh we've sold x amount and never heard of this problem (which is now right in their faces) and don't worry it's only cosmetic. Then suddenly thread gets locked. That kind of stuff doesn't sit well with me. Every manufacturer has issues, some handled more gracefully than others and for me Daystate has no magic halo.
That said im interested in the Delta Wolf it looks great which is why i recommended it a page or so back.
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On my Renegade I had 8 leaking breech seals in the first 3 months I owned it. Using the magazine the first few shots would start off good then each shot would get progressively worse. By the end of the mag it was off by inches sometimes.
That led me to think that the repeated impact on one side of the pellet probe caused the breech seal get a flat spot on the opposite side. Possibly causing a minute air leak and uneven pressure on the pellet. I'm only guessing, but I know for a fact that after altering the magazine in January 2019 after AOA replaced the probe, I haven't had a single breech seal fail and no more magazine accuracy problems. Oh well, enough said...
BTW the Renegade is not an HP version. The lever strike actually made a hole in the pellet probe:
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Interesting theory about the breech seal. I'm away from home, but I'll measure the OD of the probe when I return. My general recollection, it is considerably smaller than the ID of the breech seal, with a generous clearance. But I haven't looked at it closely in a while, and I may be wrong.
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I meant its features look great, what its showing to offer. Yeah does have some strong "styling influence" from the Impact but it's such a different gun I don't think its a big deal. Looking forward to seeing what the delta wolf can do.
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Take a look at the mag too - push the little actuator in all the way and see how far that little hook protrudes into the path of the probe. On mine it was just about right to the middle.
I'm not sure where exactly the air that activates the actuator pin comes from - I have doubts it's waste air redirected from the barrel end via the shroud. I suspect it might be a little side port near the transfer port? Which might explain why the fac and hp ones have more problems with violent pin actuation causing probe damage, potential breech seal damage as well as rapid pin breakage.
The CARM mags are fantastic and I regard them as much an essential upgrade as the saber tactical bag rider on an impact you intend to benchrest with or the power plenum for an intended slug gun. And they are cheaper than both
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