Need Help....Daystate Redwolf Safari or FX Crown Continuum .22 cal?

There is no comparison. Like comparing a Corvette to a Ferrari. Or a Ferrari to a Bugatti.

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If you have money to burn and don't mind plugging in your gun because it requires a battery, then go Daystate. The continuum may not be a bad gun, I think FX has the absolute worst magazine in the airgun industry, you need to load the first pellet backwards and the magazine spring pressure does put pressure on the pellet skirts, and it does affect accuracy. Daystate changes their guns often and if you need a computer board for your redwolf for what ever reason, will it be available in 5-10 years or will you be stuck with a paper weight. A lot of people think that FX is the best because they are constantly evolving but I believe they make so many different guns they are a jack of all trades and a master of none. Ever since the tarantula all their guns have serious flaws but Fredrick would rather bring something new to market with its own set of flaws, rather that fix what needs to be fixed to make a truly 1st rate gun, he makes his customers fix what he won't. Does anybody remember the Revo ? I have owned a couple theoben rapids and the guns and I did not click, but personally I would rather spend my money on a RAW, a RAW will be far easier to repair in the future and it has the same bottle design that the other two have. 

The wildcat mags are not spring loaded although I personally never had a problem with the spring loaded ones. I think they are all about the same as far as accuracy in the higher end guns. (just my opinion) though I've never owned a Daystate. I do own a Wildcat MKll (500mm) that at the distances your talking about is a laser with the 18gr JSBs.

 

Short, light, smooth and accurate. Has a plenum installed and shoots the 18grs at 910fps 40 shots per 225bar fill

I am not familiar with the wildcat, that may be a good option , I was thinking he wanted a bottle gun.

I'd suggest the Red Wolf - no tinkering required for excellent performance and workmanship that is unsurpassed. I own both brands but the Daystates are my favorites because they just perform. If you like to try different tunes and customize performance the FX might be more to your liking.

The only reason I can imagine for choosing the FX, if you just enjoy tinkering with mechanical rifles. Otherwise, no comparison. 

I've had (have) both. Daystate's are rock solid and the new Continuum is as well. The new Conti's mag no longer has the reversed pellet problem. The face comes off, you rotate the mag to the last position and fill it up. And you can fill up quite a few of them (!)

Daystate mags aren't perfect- they look great, but the advance bar can break ( maybe the 2020's improved ones are better), so much so that AoA will send you a new one at no charge when you ask. I also have MUCH better accuracy in .177 and .22 when single loading at 50 yards and beyond. Maybe I had two unusual guns, but look at the Brit YouTube reviews and listen for the "we recommend Single loading the rifle" comments and count how many times that comes up?

You can't go wrong with either. I still have the Crown continuum, .25 and .177 cal barrels.

The .25 with the 700 mm barrel- my daughter shoots 33 grain JSB MK II's at 930 fps and aims dead on from 15 yards to 60-ish- targets at 70 -80 yards is just a smidge over the squirrels body. She's over 50 squirrels for the past 3 weeks, high winds, 100 yards and closer.

The Daystates are wonderful, wouldn't hesitate over the electronics-





Classic lines and solid construction. Either one, you'll love. The FX, you can upgrade as you go along... the Daystate- you won't want to...

Any issues with the Daystates? Kind of gun shy in fear something going bad with the electronics

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I have a Pulsar HP and a Renegade. Had issues with both mainly related to their magazines, secondly with quality control.

They have since redesigned their mags completely, though the new ones eliminate the non-double load feature.

It sounds like you probably get the overall differences, and are just looking for the “why” between the two... At 50-75 yards, I don’t think you can go wrong with either. They are both should be good shooters at that distance.

I would not fear the electronics in the Daystate. They have been doing that for years, and are not leaving that realm. I get that it seems a little scary as that definitely seems like something harder for us regular guys to fix. 

Others have said, “Get the FX if you like to tinker.” I have heard that plenty and never had to tinker with my well setup Impact settings. I was actually scared to get one because of the adjustability at first. Turned out that I didn’t need to be. That being said, I actually prefer the free adjustability you get with the FX. If the Red Wolf isn’t ideal in your shooting conditions, you have to buy a programmer or new board for $300-400 to adjust it. The FX can be adjusted without additional spend, and it is cheaper to begin with.

All that being said, I currently own the Red Wolf and will be trying the Heliboard out in it.

Don’t be afraid of either. They are both high end products. 

Daystate is near the top of the hill of current airguns. If you can wait and like the platform, the Delta Wolf will have the new connectable magazines and the programmer and chronograph will be built in.

Daystate is near the top of the hill of current airguns. If you can wait and like the platform, the Delta Wolf will have the new connectable magazines and the programmer and chronograph will be built in.

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Yeah agreed, id hold out for the DW.

There is no comparison. Like comparing a Corvette to a Ferrari. Or a Ferrari to a Bugatti.

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I have both. Like Yo says, the Corvette (FX) is a great car, but it’s not a Ferrari (Daystate). Or better yet staying country specific, a Volvo to an Aston Martin...

Big difference in price should be mentioned too.

I dont consider myself the most experienced or best shooter on this for but if I can do this with my FX guns Id like to see how I could beat it.

FX boss 65 yards  this isn't unusual ,

FX impact also at 65 yards  average groups under 1/2 inch. 

I dont consider myself the most experienced or best shooter on this for but if I can do this with my FX guns Id like to see how I could beat it.

FX boss 65 yards 

 this isn't unusual ,

FX impact also at 65 yards 

 average groups under 1/2 inch. 

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Great groups, i bet you single load too? Because in some guns even very expensive ones the accuracy goes down with magazines.

Any issues with the Daystates? Kind of gun shy in fear something going bad with the electronics

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I have a Pulsar HP and a Renegade. Had issues with both mainly related to their magazines, secondly with quality control.

They have since redesigned their mags completely, though the new ones eliminate the non-double load feature.

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The NEW DAYSTATE MAGAZINES aren't too good. They allow double loading and seem cheap compared to the old ones. IMHO!!!

Any issues with the Daystates? Kind of gun shy in fear something going bad with the electronics

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I have a Pulsar HP and a Renegade. Had issues with both mainly related to their magazines, secondly with quality control.

They have since redesigned their mags completely, though the new ones eliminate the non-double load feature.

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The NEW DAYSTATE MAGAZINES aren't too good. They allow double loading and seem cheap compared to the old ones. IMHO!!!

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Don't those old mags chip up the probe and affect accuracy when you use them? If not why do so many people prefer to single shot from their RW?