My take on the Streamline .25

1528296383_17578202565b17f3bf542e50.83122515_DSC_1975.JPG
I acquired a.25 streamline a few months ago following the grant of my fac licence. I have shot sub12flb airguns all my days but the streamline, together with a mark one Rapid 7, represents my first foray into high powered airguns. I live in Scotland, hence the tight gun controls.

I have since had the chance to fiddle about with the rifle and take it out hunting grey squirrels and rabbits. In short I am very impressed with the quality of rifle and how pointable it is. It is very light, even with my old hawke vantage 8x32 on top with a walnut stock and I am getting 41 shots at 900fps with jsb Kings. I had thought I would be able to squeeze a few more shots from a 230bar charge but even in my rabbit infested fields I have yet to use all 40 shots so not overtly concerned. 

I really like the trigger on the Streamline, enjoying it as setup by Fx with a nice light and clean break on it. The one thing I am not so impressed with is the magazine as there are much better systems out there and I am surprised fx haven't looked to the hw100 or even their own wildcat on how to simplify the loading process, especially useful when out hunting in a cold Scottish field early doors. 

All in all though I am very happy with my purchase, not even minding the length as it is so easy to shoot. I had looked at a second hand Airwolf but glad I opted for the streamline in the end. The rifle has made picking off rabbits between 40 to 60 yards almost unfair with my two wolfdogs already bored of their monotonous dinner menu as too is my wife. My fascination with the streamline has left the rapid and my shotguns in the cabinet and I can't really see this changing any time soon. 

If anyone has any tips or tricks to get the best out of the rifle I would like to hear from you. Also I suspect lots of you have streamlines of your own, what do you guys think of the rifle? 
 
Macloaded,

I noted that you 'had your eye' on a Huntsman, you will not be sorry if/when you buy. I purchased mine in March and probably have 1500 rounds through it at this point between backyard pest control & target shooting, and weekly indoor range target shooting. AEAC is doing a review shortly ( today or tomorrow ) of the Daystate Huntsman Regal with the new regulator. I would watch that one closely as Steve gives excellent reviews; very thoughtful and insightful. This review and others may help you with your decision to purchase at some future date.

I have a .22 cal Regal XL ( no chrono yet ), but I am using JSB 15.89 and JSB 18.1 grain dome shaped soft lead -- pretty sure they both are made for this gun, or so it seems. The specs say that it will shoot between 28-30 footpounds with the right pellets. Deadly accurate for squirrels, and I had mine zero'd and test fired by AoA at 20 yards prior to shipping it out. I have NOT changed the turrets on the Leupold 6.-5-20 X 40 MM EFR scope since it was zero'd by AoA, and I have no need to "yet" for my application. Most of my pest control is 35 yards or less, with most squirrels being taken at 15-25 yards "in season." Have taken raccoons and possums as well, but shot placement has to be exact or close to perfect for one shot with those animals.

I get about 40-45 shots filling to 230 bar and when it gets down to 110 bar, I refill or occasionally I will top off at 130 bar or above. Mine is unregulated and since I have no Chrono, I am not sure of shot spread. I have a pretty good idea of FPS with my pellets, but until I personally Chrono the gun, I am just assuming I am getting what others have gotten with their Regal XLs. I have seen some You tube reviews and it appears that the shot spread is pretty tight for being an unregulated airgun. It will be 100 times better with the new Huma regulator I believe, if you buy into the hype. We'll see after the AEAC review.

p.s. I am just the opposite of you. I have the Regal and now I have "my eyes" on the Streamline or Dreamline in .25, so I will be watching your posts for hunting. Good luck!

Tom



PM me if you want to discuss at length by phone if you want, but I am sure you will be very pleased with the gun. 
 
The Streamline is an excellent gun. I don't mind the magazine at all. It locks the action open when empty, which the Wildcat does not. 

With the Wildcat, unless you keep track of your shots or pull the mag to see if there is still a pellet in there, it's possible to fire a blank or even worse, double feed.

Right? Like you could chamber the last pellet and then pull the mag to check if there are pellets left in it. When you find the mag empty, your first reaction might be to insert a fresh mag.....that's how you can double feed.

That's why I have no gripes with the Streamline mag.
 
Tom I will certainly check out the review of the regulated huntsman. In the UK so any fac rated airgun on a licence ie more than 12flbs has to be justified by use/requirement, hence it is a case of one in and one out. The old rapid seven in 22 may find itself on the market in short order. Nothing wrong with the rapid and have it set up at 23flb shooting jsb 18grain for pigeons and rabbits to around fifty yards,great bit of kit but nothing wrong with always wanting something a bit nicer. .. 

Bob I hear what you say regarding the mag, I was thinking more hw100 would be an improvement but like everything in life, maybe I just need to get use to it. Suffice to say no jams with it to date, but trying to get additional mags in. 25 in the UK is near impossible atm. 
 
I am very happy with my Streamline 25. I knocked a lot of squirrels clean over the rainbow bridge this last winter. Like you, I am willing to deal with the length, unless i am hunting dense woods. Then a bullpup makes sense. The Streamline's trigger is superb, the side lever action is silky smooth, and the magazine's advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Shot count is more than enough for hunting. Enjoy your new rifle!
 
Not hijacking Macloaded's post, but you guys are all making me get the "Jones'" for a new Streamline .25, that I cannot afford or justify right now. Not sure the admiral is thinking of buying this big of a gift for the forthcoming Father's Day?? In any case, I was very close in choosing the Streamline over the Regal XL, so Macloaded you have great choices here!

Good luck with whatever you buy.

 
I surely am loving my new .22 Streamline in walnut. It’s great all the way around but the accuracy and consistency are the hit!

I get 60 shots but refill at 55 since that’s 5 magazines at 11 shots per magazine. It has a DonnyFL SUMO on the end for stealth. In the picture is a SWFA 12X42 but my Hawke Sidewinder has been returned so now I have 20x mag sitting on top of it.

1528407017_1633693055b19a3e93e9e14.97347775_80874801-DD73-4033-A529-BF0266747F28.jpeg
 
Hi Macloaded! I am glad you chose a Streamline because I personally believe it is one of FX Airguns finest achievements. Like you I have the .25 caliber version with the walnut stock. In your post you asked for any tips or tricks which may help you get the best out of your rifle...so I will tell you about what I have done to my Streamline and why. 

Just so you understand why I did some of these things I will explain that I like to push things to their limit or to failure just to see what gives. Early on I discovered that the JSB Heavy MKI and MKII 34 grain pellets were much more accurate at long range than the 25.4 grain Exact Kings. Like you, my rifle shot the 25.4 Kings at 900 ft/s, but the 34's shot 100 ft/s slower, so I decided to see if I could set up my rifle to shoot the 34 grainers at 900 ft/s also. To accomplish this I removed the factory regulator and replaced it with a Huma regulator that is more easily adjustable, and learned how to adjust the hammer spring tension to accommodate a higher regulator setting.

My Streamline is currently set up to shoot the 34 grainers at an average velocity of 910 ft/s, which equals approximately 62 foot pounds of energy versus the 46 fpe it had when it was new. It has an extreme spread of just 6 ft/s between the highest shot and the lowest shot, which equals a standard deviation of 1.6 ft/s. Of course my shot count suffered badly due to the higher regulator setting so I figured out how to get more shots out of my rifle by replacing the factory air gauge with a Wika gauge that is rated to 315 bar. This allows me to fill my air tank up to 300 bar instead of the 230 bar limit for the factory air gauge and regulator. It turns out that the Huma regulator will withstand the additional pressure whereas the factory air gauge and regulator will not. By filling her up to 300 bar I get 42 full power accurate shots before she falls below the regulated pressure setting, and at 50 yards she will stack one pellet on top of another. The accuracy of the 34 grainers at this velocity is astounding! I got the idea to try this because on the air tube it say it is rated to 340 bar...and I have been doing this now for many months without any air leaks or other problems whatsoever. 

I do not hunt anything with my air rifles, I only shoot at paper targets so I truly didn't need to go to the trouble of setting her up to shoot at this level of power...I just wanted to see if I could do it. One benefit is a slightly flatter trajectory and a greater point blank range. For a 1" kill zone my point blank range is from 15 yards to 55 yards...which means that my point of impact is not more than 1/2" high or 1/2" low of my point of aim for that distance. That equates to not having to hold over or hold under, or fiddle with the elevation turret to take a shot at anything from 15 yards to 55 yards, which is pretty sweet for you hunters who many times need to take a fast snap shot at game or not get to take the shot at all.

I regularly shoot with a friend I met from this forum who recently acquired a used Streamline from another member. He asked me to show him how to set up his rifle the way I did mine and of course things being what they are, he is able to shoot his Streamline just that little bit more accurately than I am able to shoot mine! His eyes are 32 years younger than mine, but he also has an uncanny natural ability to excel at everything he does. He goes here by the name gaberossi and I know he would welcome any questions you may have to ask him concerning his new Streamline or the way it is now set up. 

The last thing I did to my Streamline recently was to replace my Athlon Midas 2.5-15x50 IR MOA scope with a Sightron 2.5-17.5x56 IR MOA scope...only because I like the floating dot at the center of the Sightron reticle better for target shooting.

Your Streamline is set up fine for what you are using it for and you will probably never want to change anything, but these are some tips and tricks for you in case you ever do! And of course you would have no interest in having the most powerful and accurate air rifle in the whole of Scotland now would ye? :)

All the best, Chuck
 
By the way here is a picture of the floating center dot reticle in my new Sightron STAC 2.5-17.5x56 IR MOA scope. It is supposed to focus from 10 yards to infinity...but it will actually focus crystal clearly from 4 yards to infinity! The dot becomes red when illuminated. The picture is from an online magazine article. Best regards, Chuck
1528431103_7118860495b1a01ff4b5a14.82278373_S-TAC-MOA2-Reticle.jpg
 
Hi Chuck,

New to this forum, but finally joined after many interesting reads. Yours most current! Seems you nailed it with your set up. I always wondered why most seemed so content to shoot medium weight pellets sub 900 fps. Being able to shoot the heavies with a better bc and high ft/lbs sounds logically better- assuming you stayed with or GAINED long range accuracy. Didn't know the pressure gauges could sometimes be switched out for higher fill pressures of the air cylinder. okay, before I ramble on:)- thanks for a great informative read!

Jonathan
 
Thanks Jonathan,
Yes I also wondered why not shoot the 34 grain JSB Heavy pellets at around 900 ft/s same as we shoot other lighter pellets at that speed. So I figured out how to make my rifles do it to see what would happen and was extremely happy and surprised with the results. Same with filling to higher pressures... I had a Wika gauge in my parts box from a previous experiment and wondered if it would work and can't tell you how thrilled I am with the results of this experiment! I routinely fill my Wildcat and Streamline up to 300 bar and have been doing so for quite a long time now.

Shooting the MKII upwards of 900 ft/s improved my long range accuracy dramatically. People tend to think about their rifles muzzle velocity rather than the pellet's velocity at the target. Eg., 34 grain pellets flying out of the muzzle of my rifle at 900 ft/s are only going 674 ft/s at 100 yards...if they leave the muzzle at 800 ft/s they are only going 613 ft/s at 100 yards. That 60 ft/s difference in velocity makes a big difference at 100 yards. I think the Streamline has to be the easiest air rifle to work on, so there is good reason to install an adjustable Huma regulator and set up the rifle to shoot the 34 grain pellets at their optimum intended velocity of 900 ft/s! Just my thoughts on it...
Best regards, Chuck

 
Thanks Chuck, some very useful information to chew on. I have ordered myself two tins of the heavy 34grain pellets and see how they shoot. It sounds like my rifle is set up how yours was out the factory so I would be looking at 800fps. If they shoot fine then I am tempted to tinker with a huma and very interested in switching out the gauge for the higher shot count, although at present I am over the moon with the performance out of the box, and the amazing step up in performance from sub 12flb. I would agree that pound for pound the streamline is fantastic value and a quality bit of kit and would happily recommend it to anyone having picked a walnut version up new for £800.
 
Hi Mac,
If you decide to switch out your gauge I recommend you order a Wika from CSG.com: http://www.csgshop.com/product.php?id_product=248
They are currently out of stock but I spoke with the owner yesterday and he says he will have them back in stock in about two weeks. The procedure is a no brainer...just use a very thin 11mm open end wrench to remove the fx gauge and then simply screw in the Wika and install the dust cover. If the dust cover does not go down all the way just remove the gauge and sand down the "nipple" a little and screw it back in until the dust cover seats all the way. Here are a couple pics of my Streamline and my Wildcat with the Wika gauges installed.
Best regards, Chuck
1528772186_2436185395b1f365a14a084.09473483_20180523_073942.jpg

1528772019_18012505445b1f35b37a3ef3.45280380_20180523_073952.jpg


1528772055_7994996095b1f35d77f5226.98871783_20180523_074207.jpg

1528772076_2445058515b1f35ecd9ff11.09312982_20180523_074217.jpg