My Red Wolf and why I choose it

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Brian10956

Brian10956

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i have close to 10 Air Rifles mostly PCPs and I tend to buy the ones that are considered to be top tier. In looking at what was out there I saw i big change in how Daystate was marketing to the US customers in the past they only seemed to have fancy looking but underpowered rifles for the European market where higher power rifles are restricted. Now they have come out with rifles that have a HP in their name. To me that means I have the power to use heavier ammo than before which can give me the results I want when a situation requires that extra power.
i spoke to Ken from SPAW about what I was looking for and I ordered the Red Wolf HP in 25 caliber. Style is very similar in exterior design to my FX Crown. I will say the rifle arrived in pristine condition I’ve never had a rifle that physically looked as nice. The stock is flawless as are the metal parts. The the carbonfiber moderator is also fantastic looking and the barrel came ready for an additional moderator with its threaded muzzle my DonnyFL can easily attach without the need for an adapter. Included with the Red Wolf was the 10 shot magazine and one thing most other manufacturers sell as a add on that they never have in stock a single shot tray that snaps right in with its use of magnets. Daystate also supples the rifle with a extended quick connect foster connected which simplifies filling it and also works great on the Crown. I think that AOA is the US distributor for Daystate and the warranty is now 5 years and is transferable if I decide to sell. That feature alone is much better than the 1 year the others offer with a list of things not to do that void the warranty. I have found out that in the near future kits will be available to Change calibers 
tomorrow I will be going to the range and I’ll see what kind of a shooter it is. I will to start at least by installing my 3-16x44 FFP SWFA. I will report back with my results .
 
Congratulations on the new rig. Daystate has a long history of high power pre-charged rifles but that was so far back people didnt abbreviate much and Fla. still existed.
First pre-charged I used was their 13mm, maybe not what everyone thinks of today but fascinated me after using it and looking bacj with loaded darts it likely had a few fpe.
The first air rangers ( wasnt it ? ) in .223 made 80+fpe and if you had ammo they liked they did group well.
If their is a 5 year and transferable warranty that is new:
Airgun industry WARRANTY – please post the policy for each brand you know[/QUOTE]https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/...each-brand-you-know/embed/#?secret=G3TBQnQ3fH

But out of many daystates I've seen around from the 2000's , the projectors, air wolfs , maybe 2 dozen only one .177 airwolf had issues and it was a ( NO excuse tho ) first run model. Personally not 100% on the electronic models but folks pretty well dont need use Daystate warranty's , at least not in the Good Ole Days, hopefully today also, let us know after a few thousand pellets.

We may need numbers, targets & pictrues of said rig also.



Johun

 
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The Red Wolf hp is a beautiful rifle but just to long for for my taste. I bought the .25 hp Pulsar instead. At the AOA class we were getting 63 foot pounds out the .22 red wolf hp. I will be using the new computer to make adjustments to my pulsar to see what kind of power settings I will be able to program. I will keep you informed of the progress.
 
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"Centercut"Wow, impressive. Does the Red Wolf HP .22 have the Poly LW barrel? I think shooting the "new" JSB .22 Monster 25.4 grain could be a better BC than the .25... Like Ted said in his video, we might be re-thinking .22 caliber air guns with these new advances. Which pellets were you shooting to get 63 fpe?
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I was told by AoA that is the poly LW barrel. I can't wait to get mine... they said it's 3 to 4 weeks out.
 
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I went to the range and sighted it at 50 yards. I used the reticle when i shot at 100 yard as i like to leave the scope knobs alone once sighted in. Most of the groups at 100 could be covered with a quarter i was using the JSB 25s the red wolf was set on high and the pellet speed varied between 918 and 925. I also tried some 34 grain slugs i got on ebay they were accurate but with the scope adjusted for the JSBs they were grouping low and slightly to the left in 3 inch groups at 100 yards they where shooting at 795 fps vs the 925 for the JSBs The upper left was when sighting in i was at 100 yds using a 50 foot 22 cal target the better groups can be covered with a quarter. Wind was varying.

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"Eyeshot.25"The Red Wolf hp is a beautiful rifle but just to long for for my taste. I bought the .25 hp Pulsar instead. At the AOA class we were getting 63 foot pounds out the .22 red wolf hp. I will be using the new computer to make adjustments to my pulsar to see what kind of power settings I will be able to program. I will keep you informed of the progress.
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Can you explain how the computer works and did they say when they will be available and the cost.
 
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I ordered a Red Wolf, dug deep in to its construction when I got it, and immediately returned it. Not trying to be an antagonist, but here are the counter-points that made me return mine:

No tuning ability: All FX guns in this price range have tunable power. It is downright scammy of Daystate to charge $400 extra for a programming computer. They could easily have allowed us to program it like Heliboard does.

Cheap, dated electronics: I know a thing or two about electronic components. Daystate marketing claims Red Wolf is this Ferrari grade product, but the LiPo battery is so jenky and looks like Daystate ordered it off of eBay. The same 3.5v battery is sold by western companies for $2-4 more with much better chargers and much better packaging and safety envelope.
Not to mention how dated the calculator-like screen is! They should have gone for OLED display that costs just $5 more in bulk quantities, but Daystate has no in-house engineering department. They paid a small amount to contract engineers for one-time work and haven't made any attempt to refine the technology.


 
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Dug deep and made it to the battery and screen? What about all the bits that matter -the trigger, processors, solenoid etc?

At least the battery is cheap and easy to replace/ get spares. It's been covered ad nauseum how it's not 'slick' but the bottom line is it powers the gun and does the job just fine. A Ferrari does not have a polished and jeweled fuel tank I assure you. Most electric cars run on batteries that are basically laptop tech.

What would the point of an oled screen be, other than to drain more battery? Wanting it to look bling or hoping to watch youtube on your rifle? 

I'm afraid your points on the electronics don't gel for me, at all. 

As for tuning, and the talk about daystate milking people for extras like the tuning computer, FX and others are no different.
$400 caliber change kits and providing a standard ST liner in the X system of the MK2 wildcat for no apparent reason comes to mind... 
Also funny that the makers of the 'cheap and dated' electronic gun have three times the warranty of fx.

There are no saints in business I'm afraid - none of these companies are making guns to be our friends.

The red wolf and the impact/crown all have characteristics some won't like or be irritated by, but it doesn't change the fact that they're exceptional guns and posting to dismiss one as cheap and dated based on a couple of minor points is weak and yes, antagonistic.
 
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Well after shooting 1k of 18.1grs and a bunch of H&N 21grs thru my Redwolf HP all I can say is this gun is exactly what I wanted in a long barreled track driver. I could pick it apart if that was my intention but for me I did the research and haven't had any surprises. I like to shoot not fiddle with a gun. 3 power settings and a mag counter, simple and easy. I don't have time to tune and tinker. This gun does what I expected and these days that's a great accomplishment.
 
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