My new Walther LGV Challenger Ultra

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    Windmill01
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    Ziabeam I’m not sure what my 22 version is rated at but the Australian version of the 177 is rated at 23j. Mine is averaging on the croney at 623 fps useing H&N Field Target Trophy 14.66 gr and I’m happy with that. I didn’t want a powerfull magnum I have my Trails which are close to that. If I swap the 50 kg gas ram in my 22 Trail for the 70 kg ram I have look out, it punches out the above pellets a nearly sub sonic speads but the piston whacks the hell out of the end of the compression chamber and even quality scope mounts won’t hold on for long.

    Ahh my plastic tub, stole it from our camping gear, she that must be obeyed (wife) wasn’t happy, but it’s just the perfect height for my forearm.
    As for scopes there is not a lot to choose from around my area so I buy online. I have been using the Niko Stirling Gold Crown Air King        4-12×42 AO as they cost around $170 Aus but the Trails kill those to after 6 or so months. I was going to buy a Leopoldo vex-2 3-9×33 m but at $793 Aus that is what I paid for the Walther. So I chose the Leaper very light, great reviews, life time warranty and a third of the cost of the Leopold. Also this scope is very clear and sharp.
    Well enough of my ranting have you got it yet.

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    Ziabeam
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    Got it today. Shoots 8.2 gr pellets at 895fps avg. Pretty twangy. Shows potential accuracy. My Beeman RX2 shoots same pellet at 960fps, so I’m going to try backing the LGV down in power. I really like this airgun very much. Going to look into a new scope right away.

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    Windmill01
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    Good on ya, it will be interesting what you back it down to, that may also take out the twang. Keep us posted,pics to please.

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    Ziabeam
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    The quest for a better scope just got a violent shove into overdrive. The BSA had been on many springers, and this morning the crosshairs began to rotate counter-clockwise (independent of the scope body). Guess that’s the LGV’s way of protesting hand-me-downs !!
    Might try to polish up the trigger as well. It’s not bad, but there seems to be room for improvement.
    Still liking the airgun though.

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    Windmill01
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    BSA scopes are a bit expensive where I come from, the accuracy will undoubtedly improve from now on. We are away fishing for a few days, I miss my Walther already.

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    Smaug
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    Careful you don’t shoot it too much. When you go back to the Trails, you’ll wrinkle your nose at the trigger pull. :)

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    Windmill01
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    G’day Smaug, I try not to let them get jealous of each other and give them the same me time as each other. I have however been giving the 177 Trail some extra attention. I had to put on a new scope and it’s still not as accurate as it used to be. You may be on to something with the trigger of the Walther.

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    Ziabeam
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    Put a different scope on it today and 5 of 5 twenty-shot groups at 25yds could be completely covered with a nickel.
    At 10 yards it shoots 10 shot groups that look like a single .22 cal hole, and that’s leaning against an improvised offhand perch with the rifle laying on a padded pedestal of sorts. Pretty sure this gun won’t be tuned down any time soon.

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    Ziabeam
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    “Windmill01”… Keep us posted,pics to please.

     

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    Windmill01
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    Well, that’s put the cat amongst the pidgeons. I’m going to have to update my plinking table lol. Nice looking rifle is that the brand of the scope  Primary Arms as I have never heard of them. Nice shooting, having that type of accuracy at nearly 900 fps is something special. I wouldn’t touching anything either.
    Gary

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    Ziabeam
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    “Windmill01”…. is that the brand of the scope  Primary Arms as I have never heard of them. ….
    Gary

     

    http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-4-14x44mm-riflescope-acss-hud-dmr-308-223-reticle-pa4-14xffp308


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    Windmill01
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    Thanks for that, but I notice it’s a rifle scope. Will it stand up to the BSA killer? Also would the twang on your rifle settle down a bit with a slightly heavier pellet ?

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    Ziabeam
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    “Windmill01”Thanks for that, but I notice it’s a rifle scope. Will it stand up to the BSA killer? Also would the twang on your rifle settle down a bit with a slightly heavier pellet ?

    
That’s the $20,000 question… (OK $279 question)

    Ask 3 people and we’d get 5 answers;

    • Some people say it’s a myth that springers kill scopes.
    • Some say a springer would break an anvil.
    • Some say any premium rifle scope will last.
    • Some say only airgun scopes will suffice.
    • And alas there’s the fella that says it’s all a crap-shoot.

    Decided to find out the hard way. So far so good.

    And yes sir !!… The heavier the pellet the more subdued the shot cycle on most of my springers… which opens another can of worms, some claim heavy pellets destroy mainsprings… (which seems unlikely)… but if sacrificing a mainspring will save a scope… then the enemy of my spring is my friend.

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    Windmill01
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    Ahhhh very philosophical my friend and some may say hopeful. Time will tell.

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    Smaug
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    You know what’s funny? Walther barrels are legendary in airgunning. But yet (in general) we’re slow to buy Walther airguns. (which come with a FREE Walther barrel! ;D)

    I think they slowed way down on exporting airguns for awhile, and now they’re just getting back up to speed again.

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    Windmill01
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    I wasn’t happy with some of my groups. At first I put it down to a new airrifle, pellet selection( pretty limited here), hold sensitivity, follow through and being away for a couple of weeks fishing and crabbing. 
    This morning I looked at the trigger adjustments on my Walther. The travel was fine but I adjusted the trigger weight down a half turn to see if that would improve my groups. Amazing, the feel of the rifle changed immediately and bang from the first shot they(the pellets) were on the mark. No customary couple of shots to get used to the Walther, it just happened. Yahoo

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    I was reading a thread in Target Shooting “Cleaning my target gun” and I thought well I have put through over 800 pellets through my new Walther I’ll give her a clean…………..OUCH!!!!

    That was last night, so before lunch I thought I’d have a plink. Set up my 25 meter Target and unleashed holy hell. Now some of the bad shots were probably me BUT

    Im never ever ever ever doing that again. Until next time lol.

     

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    jungle
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    Hi, all
    hope you enjoying your LGV and got the accuracy back.
    I am no expert or pro tuner but shooting a lgv comp ultra 177. and love mine. :)
    I have gone thru a lot with my lgv and noticed a few things so far.
    My lgv’s original trigger sucked so bad. it was a light first stage then a hard second stage. Had to squeeze hard to shoot. So did the yankee trigger tune and what a difference! it definitely helped mine.
    Also when groups open up, I clean the barrel and check the stock screws. They loosen up in time and open the groups.
    i don’t know if you ready to take a look at the inside of your LGV but if you do, you might be surprised with the factory rust. As all say, all guns are different but mine looked ok outside (still some rust) when I received it but not the inside. That might caused the grouching noise when cocking. Just my two cents. But surely do not attempt to open anything without knowing what you are doing.
    Lastly, I got a moderator on my lgv and it reduced the bark to “bonk!” and I am not taking it off. more fun for me.
    Show us more groups and updates. 
    Good luck and have fun.

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    hokieben
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    Wow, I know that barrels need to be reseasoned after a cleaning, but I’ve never seen it illustrated so well. I’m sure groups 1 and 2 had you a little nervous. Thanks for sharing.

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    Smaug
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    Thanks for making a record of that. I had read from The Godfather of Airguns (Tom Gaylord) that he recommends not cleaning a barrel unless accuracy tanks with no other explanation. Your results kind of support that too.

    I didn’t think it would take 5 groups’ worth of shots to re-season the bore; i figured maybe one to five shots.

    Now that the bore is seasoned, I’d be curious to hear whether the LGV also exhibits the behavior that I see from my TX200:  the first group from a cool gun is bigger than the second group. Is the spring limbering up, or the lubricant or  …?

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