Or also as it's known, Uragan Compact.
My Financial (retired) guy told me not be be afraid to buy anything..! So...liking the bull pup design, and liking what I saw in the Uragan, I bought one.
Out of my three, I think I have a new favourite. My first was a Lelya 2, next came the Ataman BP 17, and now (probably my last) the Uragan. All in WAY too short a time period.
The Uragan is VERY well made. Well, I'm not a fan of the carbon fiber bottle being exposed. Exposed both in the possibility of a deep scratch/nick which will compromise the integrity of the bottle, but also the fact that the bottle is hanging out there to be broken off at the neck/threads by a slip and fall. I'll be looking into buying the longer guns bottle guard and fitting it.
The little "spacer" at the butt pad is not removable. Well, it is, but then you'd have to drill two holes in the stock to remount the rubber butt pad. As designed, you can loosen the center mounting screw and move the buttpad up, down and rotate it if you like. I dropped the rubber pad a little to gain good red dot sight center. In general, the stock is plenty comfortable. Not like the Lelya 2, which I spent some time modifying to make it comfortable. The stock is held onto the gun by a large screw up through the hand grip, and two small screws on each side, back by the receiver.
The barrel is fully protected by the frame, somewhat like the Lelya. But it is not a stressed member as it is in the Lelya. The shroud that is on it, is actually a nice muffler. It's got a aluminum baffle inside. The gun also comes with a secondary quieting device in a parts box, that attaches to the one that is attached to the end of the barrel. The barrel goes into the shroud roughly 1.60" long. It has a centering shoulder and attachment threads. The basic shroud/muffler is plenty quiet. I have two cats. While I was sighting in the red dot sight, one of my cats was about 3 ft. away sleeping. Didn't seem to bother him at all.
The trigger is nice. very similar to the Lelya in feel. Nice light takeup, a positive stop, then the let-off. I don't have the tools, but I'd guess the trigger pull is 7 or 8 oz., with little overtravel. It does have some, but not an uncomfortable amount. The trigger linkage looks like it came out of the same parts bin as both the Lelya and the BP 17. It appears to be adjustable, but there is no information about doing so in the manual. The trigger is cast, what appears to be aluminum. It's fairly wide with a smooth surface and sorta sharp corners. The trigger mechanism looks very basic what you can see inside its box. Few moving parts.
The air storage bottle appears to be well made. Nice smooth gloss surface finish. But as I noter earlier...it's hanging out in space mostly unprotected. Maybe that's one reason, that the manual states that this is not to be used as a "hunting" rifle..! Even though this is an indoor gun, hopefully I can buy the factory shroud.
The stock. As I said, it's is comfortable as is. It's some sort of cast plastic, but very solid feeling. I'm 6", about 250lbs and the gun fits well at my shoulder, especially with the height adjustable buttstock pad.
The magazine is very well made. I say this with some reservation, as I do not have any clue what the springs life will be that controls the "star" that locates the pellets..! The body is machined aluminum, with the center pellet holding device "star" made of plastic. Easy to load, all but the last (or first to fire) pellet is held in place so it can't fall out at any time before it's inserted into the receiver. A very cool item that neither the Lelya or the BP17 have...is a last fire stop. Not sure what its actual title is, but after the last shot, you cannot complete the cocking procedure to try to load a pellet that is not there. There is a stop in the "star" to keep the pin that pushes the pellet forward from moving into battery. The act of inserting the magazine...is the simplest of the three guns that I have. It's a big smooth block with a small groove machined into its bottom. As you push the magazine into the receiver, a pin at the bottom of the receiver, depresses and locks into the groove in the magazine. Very simple, VERY positive, you cannot screw that operation up no matter how fast you may try to load the gun..! The magazine holds 12 rounds...of .22 in my case.
Cocking the gun. This mechanism blows both the Lelya 2 and the BP 17 into kiddy land. While the Lelya is very solid, very firm, little looseness, design play in the cocking arm, its is also very short which makes it a little tough to operate. It needs to be done VERY purposely with a firm pull and push, with no stopping in between. The BP 17 has a longer arm similar to most/many other guns. A little loose when out of its lock point. It's an easier operation, smoother operation to cock the BP 17 over the Lelya, but also needs to be done with a positive pull and push. Overall, clean and easy, but you need to verify the last little push to make sure that it is fully locked into position. The Uragon on the other hand...ALMOST cocks itself. A long arm as many do, fairly firm when open, that is it's not too sloppy and moves up and down when open at a 90° position to the gun center very little. As you initially pull the cocking arm away from its locked position, there is an assist spring, that actually helps the act of cocking the gun. Then at the full extension, the same sort of thing happens to return the arm into its locked position. A positive but smooth stop holds the arm in place during shooting the gun. VERY smooth, VERY positive, VERY simple. Can be swapped to the other side. Give the cocking mechanism design guys a big raise, and a long vacation..!
There is a long flex line that transfers the pressure from the bottle to the receiver. May be a little maintenance thing down the road, but mostly fine for a long time to come. I put two magazines (24 shots) thru the gun sighting in the sight. The air loss appears to be a little more than 20psi. I figure it has a large shot count per air fill.
Again, by a notable amount, this gun out does BP 17 and even the Lelya 2, design wise in many areas. Not saying that either of the other two guns are a bad designs in any way, they really are not. It's just that the Uragan is that much better in more than a couple of areas. If you are thinking of getting one, for my nickles worth, it's well worth the money.
Mike
My Financial (retired) guy told me not be be afraid to buy anything..! So...liking the bull pup design, and liking what I saw in the Uragan, I bought one.
Out of my three, I think I have a new favourite. My first was a Lelya 2, next came the Ataman BP 17, and now (probably my last) the Uragan. All in WAY too short a time period.
The Uragan is VERY well made. Well, I'm not a fan of the carbon fiber bottle being exposed. Exposed both in the possibility of a deep scratch/nick which will compromise the integrity of the bottle, but also the fact that the bottle is hanging out there to be broken off at the neck/threads by a slip and fall. I'll be looking into buying the longer guns bottle guard and fitting it.
The little "spacer" at the butt pad is not removable. Well, it is, but then you'd have to drill two holes in the stock to remount the rubber butt pad. As designed, you can loosen the center mounting screw and move the buttpad up, down and rotate it if you like. I dropped the rubber pad a little to gain good red dot sight center. In general, the stock is plenty comfortable. Not like the Lelya 2, which I spent some time modifying to make it comfortable. The stock is held onto the gun by a large screw up through the hand grip, and two small screws on each side, back by the receiver.
The barrel is fully protected by the frame, somewhat like the Lelya. But it is not a stressed member as it is in the Lelya. The shroud that is on it, is actually a nice muffler. It's got a aluminum baffle inside. The gun also comes with a secondary quieting device in a parts box, that attaches to the one that is attached to the end of the barrel. The barrel goes into the shroud roughly 1.60" long. It has a centering shoulder and attachment threads. The basic shroud/muffler is plenty quiet. I have two cats. While I was sighting in the red dot sight, one of my cats was about 3 ft. away sleeping. Didn't seem to bother him at all.
The trigger is nice. very similar to the Lelya in feel. Nice light takeup, a positive stop, then the let-off. I don't have the tools, but I'd guess the trigger pull is 7 or 8 oz., with little overtravel. It does have some, but not an uncomfortable amount. The trigger linkage looks like it came out of the same parts bin as both the Lelya and the BP 17. It appears to be adjustable, but there is no information about doing so in the manual. The trigger is cast, what appears to be aluminum. It's fairly wide with a smooth surface and sorta sharp corners. The trigger mechanism looks very basic what you can see inside its box. Few moving parts.
The air storage bottle appears to be well made. Nice smooth gloss surface finish. But as I noter earlier...it's hanging out in space mostly unprotected. Maybe that's one reason, that the manual states that this is not to be used as a "hunting" rifle..! Even though this is an indoor gun, hopefully I can buy the factory shroud.
The stock. As I said, it's is comfortable as is. It's some sort of cast plastic, but very solid feeling. I'm 6", about 250lbs and the gun fits well at my shoulder, especially with the height adjustable buttstock pad.
The magazine is very well made. I say this with some reservation, as I do not have any clue what the springs life will be that controls the "star" that locates the pellets..! The body is machined aluminum, with the center pellet holding device "star" made of plastic. Easy to load, all but the last (or first to fire) pellet is held in place so it can't fall out at any time before it's inserted into the receiver. A very cool item that neither the Lelya or the BP17 have...is a last fire stop. Not sure what its actual title is, but after the last shot, you cannot complete the cocking procedure to try to load a pellet that is not there. There is a stop in the "star" to keep the pin that pushes the pellet forward from moving into battery. The act of inserting the magazine...is the simplest of the three guns that I have. It's a big smooth block with a small groove machined into its bottom. As you push the magazine into the receiver, a pin at the bottom of the receiver, depresses and locks into the groove in the magazine. Very simple, VERY positive, you cannot screw that operation up no matter how fast you may try to load the gun..! The magazine holds 12 rounds...of .22 in my case.
Cocking the gun. This mechanism blows both the Lelya 2 and the BP 17 into kiddy land. While the Lelya is very solid, very firm, little looseness, design play in the cocking arm, its is also very short which makes it a little tough to operate. It needs to be done VERY purposely with a firm pull and push, with no stopping in between. The BP 17 has a longer arm similar to most/many other guns. A little loose when out of its lock point. It's an easier operation, smoother operation to cock the BP 17 over the Lelya, but also needs to be done with a positive pull and push. Overall, clean and easy, but you need to verify the last little push to make sure that it is fully locked into position. The Uragon on the other hand...ALMOST cocks itself. A long arm as many do, fairly firm when open, that is it's not too sloppy and moves up and down when open at a 90° position to the gun center very little. As you initially pull the cocking arm away from its locked position, there is an assist spring, that actually helps the act of cocking the gun. Then at the full extension, the same sort of thing happens to return the arm into its locked position. A positive but smooth stop holds the arm in place during shooting the gun. VERY smooth, VERY positive, VERY simple. Can be swapped to the other side. Give the cocking mechanism design guys a big raise, and a long vacation..!
There is a long flex line that transfers the pressure from the bottle to the receiver. May be a little maintenance thing down the road, but mostly fine for a long time to come. I put two magazines (24 shots) thru the gun sighting in the sight. The air loss appears to be a little more than 20psi. I figure it has a large shot count per air fill.
Again, by a notable amount, this gun out does BP 17 and even the Lelya 2, design wise in many areas. Not saying that either of the other two guns are a bad designs in any way, they really are not. It's just that the Uragan is that much better in more than a couple of areas. If you are thinking of getting one, for my nickles worth, it's well worth the money.
Mike
