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That's right, I talked to them, they said it could change caliber .22 and .25. But when I watched the video, I discovered the problem of the trigger system, I also asked them about the issues related to Huben K1 and other issues, but I didn't get the answer from them. They said it would appear at IWA in March. Let's wait and see.
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And a North Carolina phone number, hum. Does seem a bit huben ish. With parts/service support it would no doubt be a #1 hit with the really want a firearm/airgun crowd.
John
John
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Also, a great way to attract unwanted attention from the BATF.
Anything that is a large caliber "full automatic" is certainly going to be examined by the Feds. Offering a .25 caliber pcp, full auto airgun WILL come back to haunt us.
My advice...don't buy the full auto. Fun to shoot once or twice, but after that...what do you do with it? We don't have "human wave" attacks by raccoons, rats, or unwanted birds.
Let's us some common sense, or we will pay the price when we have airguns that are equal, in close range, to the killing power of full auto powder burners!!!! Remember "Bumpfire"???
You say ".25 caliber won't attract attention" Let's remember the Japanese army fought an entire war with .25 caliber rifles, carbines, and machine guns!!!
Further, we DO NOT have Second Amendment protection!!! That leaves any government law enforcement agency free to demand limits/restrictions/laws prohibiting power, shot count capability, and caliber. Look at Illinois...it's already illegal to own an airgun with a caliber larger than.17, and velocity higher than 700 fps. Wake up!!! It's not only possible, it's already had the precedent set....
Below is the link to what we may expect nation-wide if the airgun industry continues to approach form and function of powder burning firearms:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=072000050HArt%2E+24%2E8&ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqStart=72700000&SeqEnd=73500000
Anything that is a large caliber "full automatic" is certainly going to be examined by the Feds. Offering a .25 caliber pcp, full auto airgun WILL come back to haunt us.
My advice...don't buy the full auto. Fun to shoot once or twice, but after that...what do you do with it? We don't have "human wave" attacks by raccoons, rats, or unwanted birds.
Let's us some common sense, or we will pay the price when we have airguns that are equal, in close range, to the killing power of full auto powder burners!!!! Remember "Bumpfire"???
You say ".25 caliber won't attract attention" Let's remember the Japanese army fought an entire war with .25 caliber rifles, carbines, and machine guns!!!
Further, we DO NOT have Second Amendment protection!!! That leaves any government law enforcement agency free to demand limits/restrictions/laws prohibiting power, shot count capability, and caliber. Look at Illinois...it's already illegal to own an airgun with a caliber larger than.17, and velocity higher than 700 fps. Wake up!!! It's not only possible, it's already had the precedent set....
Below is the link to what we may expect nation-wide if the airgun industry continues to approach form and function of powder burning firearms:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=072000050HArt%2E+24%2E8&ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqStart=72700000&SeqEnd=73500000
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You absolutely can become a killer by empty-hand, it is important to be aware, live and work according to the law.
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As an airgunner for well over a half-century, I've never been particularly concerned about attracting anti-gun attention... until now. Suffice to say the video of that baby in full-auto mode is mighty impressive; even a serious shooter can't tell it from a full-auto "assault weapon"! That it's blasting holes in a 50 gallon steel drum at 50 yards only adds to the illusion of deadly capabilities.
I'd love to have one, but the fact no mass-murderer "in his right mind" would drop the kind of $$$ required for such an ineffective tool for the job will not deter an anti-gun 'mentality' or agenda.
I do wonder if it's a Huben product, or just a rip-off.
I'd love to have one, but the fact no mass-murderer "in his right mind" would drop the kind of $$$ required for such an ineffective tool for the job will not deter an anti-gun 'mentality' or agenda.
I do wonder if it's a Huben product, or just a rip-off.
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I really want to give you a hug. That was the smartest thing I have read in quite some time. Gold star for you, Sir
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If I feel the need for full auto,I'll just get some bb's (MUCH cheaper than 25.39 JSB's!!) and fire up my Umarex MP40.
It really worries me that products like this .25 full-auto are going to be the "Squeaky wheel" that gets the airgunning community "greased"!
Now we have big bores capable of taking out Cape Buffalo...and full auto .25's. This isnt going to continue to go unnoticed. Careful whatcha wish for...Ya just might get it.
Mike
It really worries me that products like this .25 full-auto are going to be the "Squeaky wheel" that gets the airgunning community "greased"!
Now we have big bores capable of taking out Cape Buffalo...and full auto .25's. This isnt going to continue to go unnoticed. Careful whatcha wish for...Ya just might get it.
Mike
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Keep the semi/full auto crap for bb guns and paintballs... Some people don't realize that air guns can have equal or greater energy than a powder burner, with even better accuracy...at the end of the day these manufacturers even thinking of bringing these to mainstream truly lack forethought...
The industry is going the wrong direction (some of it)...a lot of innovation left unseen before we just toss ourselves in the same ring as PB's.
-Matt
The industry is going the wrong direction (some of it)...a lot of innovation left unseen before we just toss ourselves in the same ring as PB's.
-Matt
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its already in motion...quietly, city by city...its when it hits at a federal level that all will go "Oh s*#t, we fu**ed up"
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The most dangerous PCPs are the “precharged politicians” full of hot air and ready to “ban” or “outlaw” any and all projectile weapons or sporting arms.
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I contacted them as well asking them whether they were affiliated with Huben. They replied that they didn't even know about Huben, which is a bit difficult to believe. When I pointed out the obvious similarities, they just got defensive and said "but ours is full auto". Also interesting to note was that their emails contained Chinese writing, which puts their "made in the USA" marketing in doubt. I guess I'll have to check with Huben.
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I have also received almost the same answer, I also had a post about a similar product, I also asked them about the relationship between them but did not have an answer. Let's wait to see if they will appear at IWA in March?
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Very interesting. I was hoping for a Huben K2. I've had trouble trusting Huben's Semi auto system, but an hammerless full auto from China with a shady new company that nobody know anything about---I think I'll keep my $ for now.
Looks like the same technology as a Huben. Somebody posted Huben's Patent on the forum a few years back. If they are using Huben's tech without permission, Huben should stop it immediately.
Looks like the same technology as a Huben. Somebody posted Huben's Patent on the forum a few years back. If they are using Huben's tech without permission, Huben should stop it immediately.
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It's not illegal to reproduce brand name products in China. They sell counterfeit merchandise every day!
Sometimes you get lucky buying a quality Chinese product...sometimes you get garbage...proceed with caution!
The gun you saw may or may not be a cheap copy of a high quality Chinese product...fairly common, just take a look at the "Yong Heng" 4500 psi air compressors being sold. You can't tell by looking if it's the genuine product, or a low priced counterfeit. Sometimes you just have to tell yourself "I know they are lying, their lips are moving!"
Be careful out there,
Kindly 'Ol Uncle Hoot
Sometimes you get lucky buying a quality Chinese product...sometimes you get garbage...proceed with caution!
The gun you saw may or may not be a cheap copy of a high quality Chinese product...fairly common, just take a look at the "Yong Heng" 4500 psi air compressors being sold. You can't tell by looking if it's the genuine product, or a low priced counterfeit. Sometimes you just have to tell yourself "I know they are lying, their lips are moving!"
Be careful out there,
Kindly 'Ol Uncle Hoot
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It's not illegal to reproduce brand name products in China. They sell counterfeit merchandise every day!
Sometimes you get lucky buying a quality Chinese product...sometimes you get garbage...proceed with caution!
The gun you saw may or may not be a cheap copy of a high quality Chinese product...fairly common, just take a look at the "Yong Heng" 4500 psi air compressors being sold. You can't tell by looking if it's the genuine product, or a low priced counterfeit. Sometimes you just have to tell yourself "I know they are lying, their lips are moving!"
Be careful out there,
Kindly 'Ol Uncle Hoot
I'm not sure if this information is correct but "hammerless system" is designed by 2 Chinese skilled workers, then it has been resold. And only they can upgrade it to full automatic. I do not know if there will be copyright lawsuits because Huben K1 has been registered for copyright. Anyway, I still look forward to the launch date of this product, and I'm sure that I'm not just looking forward to this.
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This is another semi/full automatic product designed by a Vietnamese person (about 7-8 years ago).
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The website says they will attend IWA. I checked the convention site and they are not registered as an exhibitor. I guess "attend" is the keyword. SOund a little fishy to me.
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