A friend gets his first PCP, newbies get a lesson, grammar nazis love me, and Here's my opinion on the 25 caliber Umarex Gauntlet.
https://youtu.be/MOzCvChe27M
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Mutha Beep 25 cal Umarex Gauntlet
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Have two that were rejected for various reasons by original owners, optional barrel band, regulator work, bolt problems, a non regged Marauder though less shots is way more consistant.
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Thanks for the input, and yes from what I understand the Marauder is about the best on the market, it would be better to try and find a used one in this situation, he's working with $4-$500 to buy his set up, which is why he went with the Gauntlet.
My issue with it is mainly that it seems to be a good gun for the price, you can jack it up to be really nice, but the fact that there are known issues that are completely ignored by the manufacturer for over a year is my complaint. I love my Flashpup, but in the same note, when I first got it I was pretty upset, it was the only thing in my price range that I could use at the moment, it was that or the Kral Puncher Breaker, which I am still looking at now. The PB was a bit out of my range at the time so I went with the Flashpup, it was a love/hate relationship when I first got it, absolutely loved the gun, power, accuracy, but the magazines were pure trash, wouldn't cycle right, messed up all your pellets when you loaded it with the mag, it made me miserable and I didn't want it if it wasn't a repeater. Hatsan immediately stepped up and bit the bullet, I'm sure it cost them to have to stop production and get rid of all the mags that were made, but they made new ones and sent them out to everyone who ordered the gun that asked, the new mags work flawlessly. On the other hand, Umarex has had a year, know about the problem, it's a potential hazard with the bottle and wobbly barrel, yet their response to the customers was to put out another one with the same problem and basically telling them to fix it themselves if they want it to work properly, ya know, it's a budget gun for only $300 so you have to make it work and fix the safety hazards yourself, and when you do it's out of their hands because it voids the warranty. Many seem to be perfectly ok with it, and start singing the same song they tell them to sing, "It's a budget gun, you know you're gonna have to work on it so don't complain", which is why they do it. Not cool in my opinion.
My issue with it is mainly that it seems to be a good gun for the price, you can jack it up to be really nice, but the fact that there are known issues that are completely ignored by the manufacturer for over a year is my complaint. I love my Flashpup, but in the same note, when I first got it I was pretty upset, it was the only thing in my price range that I could use at the moment, it was that or the Kral Puncher Breaker, which I am still looking at now. The PB was a bit out of my range at the time so I went with the Flashpup, it was a love/hate relationship when I first got it, absolutely loved the gun, power, accuracy, but the magazines were pure trash, wouldn't cycle right, messed up all your pellets when you loaded it with the mag, it made me miserable and I didn't want it if it wasn't a repeater. Hatsan immediately stepped up and bit the bullet, I'm sure it cost them to have to stop production and get rid of all the mags that were made, but they made new ones and sent them out to everyone who ordered the gun that asked, the new mags work flawlessly. On the other hand, Umarex has had a year, know about the problem, it's a potential hazard with the bottle and wobbly barrel, yet their response to the customers was to put out another one with the same problem and basically telling them to fix it themselves if they want it to work properly, ya know, it's a budget gun for only $300 so you have to make it work and fix the safety hazards yourself, and when you do it's out of their hands because it voids the warranty. Many seem to be perfectly ok with it, and start singing the same song they tell them to sing, "It's a budget gun, you know you're gonna have to work on it so don't complain", which is why they do it. Not cool in my opinion.
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I did NOT sit through the entire thing ( so I did miss things).
You believe the "air stripper" caused multiple pellets to lodge in barrel? That would be wrong. Folks do need to know how to put air in a gun in the first [place and a pcp that will not seat the valve ( maybe called a ball thing in your vid?) with a hand pump is not all that uncommon. Wish I could watch it all and review for the newbies.
John
You believe the "air stripper" caused multiple pellets to lodge in barrel? That would be wrong. Folks do need to know how to put air in a gun in the first [place and a pcp that will not seat the valve ( maybe called a ball thing in your vid?) with a hand pump is not all that uncommon. Wish I could watch it all and review for the newbies.
John
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One thing I have learned the less money you spend on your gun, the more important it is to pay at least $10 for the assurance that at very least the gun fills properly and holds air & cycles properly.
As I mentioned on YouTube, buying a new gun from a site that offers this kind of assurance, how much is your time worth to you? Has to be more than $10 for the whole amount of time it took you guys trying to diagnose issues that $10 could have eliminated.
Again, nothing against trying to save a buck here and there, trust me I totally understand.
As I mentioned on YouTube, buying a new gun from a site that offers this kind of assurance, how much is your time worth to you? Has to be more than $10 for the whole amount of time it took you guys trying to diagnose issues that $10 could have eliminated.
Again, nothing against trying to save a buck here and there, trust me I totally understand.
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I agree, but he just ordered and forgot, I told him, he had every intention to do just that, he even forgot pellets to be honest with you. I think he was just excited that he was finally ordering the gun that he got the gun in the cart and forgot about everything else.
We spent another day with it today, another long fight, but it was working pretty well shooting 25.39 gr JSB's at 818 fps by the end of the day, definitely not the advertised amount of power it's supposed to have. It needs to be turned up, had some major hang ups again today, but it's accurate when it's working, I'll give it that.
We spent another day with it today, another long fight, but it was working pretty well shooting 25.39 gr JSB's at 818 fps by the end of the day, definitely not the advertised amount of power it's supposed to have. It needs to be turned up, had some major hang ups again today, but it's accurate when it's working, I'll give it that.
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I know very little about these guns, except that they can be turned into pretty decent shooters with a little work, and it appears you're already started on that.
Orders gun without pellets
good thing he has good friends..
Orders gun without pellets
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I'll make an improved air stripper and baffles for him and throw in some shims to turn up his regulator if you'd like. Just PM me an address to ship to.
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I don't know what to think of this video, other than buyer's remorse.
The gun costs just a tad over $300 with shipping, two extra mags, using a 20% coupon from Pyramyd. If one spends about 20 minutes, you can adjust the single stage trigger so it shoots reasonably, but with too much pre-travel in my opinion. All said, it does its job, it's as accurate as my Gen 2 Marauder, but a bit noisier. Groups hover around 1/2 inch at 60 yards, where I have the gun sighted in.
The baffles in the suppressor are actually two separate pieces, snapped together. If you're really worried about it coming apart, a bit of superglue with suffice. An add on suppressor might be warranted if you're shooting in your back yard. Or, you can use a 3D printer, and make your won set of cone baffles like the Marauder uses, which makes it somewhat quieter.
You really can't complain too much all considering what monies are invested. Oh sure, an FX Crown, or WAR Flex, it is not! But what do you expect for just $300??
The gun costs just a tad over $300 with shipping, two extra mags, using a 20% coupon from Pyramyd. If one spends about 20 minutes, you can adjust the single stage trigger so it shoots reasonably, but with too much pre-travel in my opinion. All said, it does its job, it's as accurate as my Gen 2 Marauder, but a bit noisier. Groups hover around 1/2 inch at 60 yards, where I have the gun sighted in.
The baffles in the suppressor are actually two separate pieces, snapped together. If you're really worried about it coming apart, a bit of superglue with suffice. An add on suppressor might be warranted if you're shooting in your back yard. Or, you can use a 3D printer, and make your won set of cone baffles like the Marauder uses, which makes it somewhat quieter.
You really can't complain too much all considering what monies are invested. Oh sure, an FX Crown, or WAR Flex, it is not! But what do you expect for just $300??
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