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    LTU-013
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    Need help.

    Any suggestion or experience with outdoor motion sensors.

    Gang of raccoons is on the mission to destroy my peach trees.

    Right now I'm using motion activated sprinkler

    https://www.amazon.com/Orbit-62100-Activated-Sprinkler-Detection/dp/B009F1R0GC/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1534172942&sr=1-1&keywords=motion+sprinkler

    Sprinkler starts working – time to go

    But it is not accurate, a lot of false alarms and it takes toll on me, I'm still working full time, if you have to wake up 3-5 times a night it's not that easy to get up early in the morning.

    Was looking at this one:

    https://www.amazon.com/Olymbros-Security-Wireless-Weatherproof-Detector/dp/B06XX62HVT/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1534172796&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=hunting+motion+detector&psc=1

    but looks like sensibility it's not adjustable, most likely on a windy night even tree branches would trigger alarm

    One of reviews: "I only installed two sensor units. Very many false alarms. Either light wind or calm the device was activated. I tried it two nights wearing the watch. Got up 3 times each night to try and scare off elk destroying my apple trees. No elk or other critters. Wind was less than 5 mph on the anemometer first night, second night calm."

    Any suggestions, recommendations??

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    hawkeye69
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    How far away from your house are the trees?

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    LTU-013
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    15-20 yards

     

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    1shooter
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    Just bought this from amazon.

     

    https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Wireless-Security-Battery-operated-Weatherproof/dp/B00RCW8QS2?keywords=motion+sensor&qid=1534186824&sr=8-8&ref=mp_s_a_1_8

     

    I have used a similar unit from harbor freight with good results.  Yes, the wind can set if off also hot sun can too, so placement of the transmitter(s) is key aIso covering them in the day can save battery life. I wouldn’t spend much more than this on motion detection as the next step would be security cameras that can sense body heat for detection. I’m not ready to go that far for my rat problem.   Good luck and I’m jealous as our apples do great but peach tree suffers from curl. Need to spray more in the off season. 

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    LTU-013
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    I love that price, it's just for a few weeks, I'm not planning to spend hundreds on highly advanced system  

    Motion activated sprinkler worked pretty well for deer, but raccoons are much smaller and it not always detects 

    I'm jealous of your apples, I'm struggling with apples for years

    for some reason deer just love apple trees, Peaches, Plums, Pears, Cherry already grow taller that 10 ft

    Apples – no luck, as soon as I plant new trees, within week or two deer would eat leaves and brunches to a bare trunk…

    Already planted some apple trees for a third time in the same place, because previous were eaten alive :(

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    nervoustrig
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    Another vote for one of the cheap driveway motion sensors from some place like Harbor  Freight or Amazon.  They will pick up things as small as rats and mice when placed within a few feet.  The trick in your situation is just making sure you know a spot they will cross when heading for your peaches.

    BTW, I get zero false alarms from mine at night but sometimes do during the day. 

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    Another product from amazon that could help you is a motion activated solar lights. I mention this as it looks like from your other post your using a flashlight. These could help light your target.  I don’t think in your position I wouldn’t get these just for your problem as the light only stays on for 30 seconds when motion is detected but if you could also use them around the house then trying one or two for your problem might help or hurt by spooking them.  

         I bought a pack of 4 a month ago for outside the house in certain spots like garbage cans etc. They work great but will need a sunnyish spot to recharge and only have a 30 second run of light when activated.  At first I bought them to use along my “path” to get to my shooting spots, facing out so I don’t set them off. They helped me remain calm walking in the dark, night vision scope so no lights were used, to my spots after my motion alarm went off.  We have had a skunk around and I don’t want to suprise one, plus many other animals.  I don’t use them for this anymore as they found permanent spots around the house, like a path to shed and the garbage cans etc. but I screwed them to a piece of wood to move them around where I needed them when used along my “path”.  

      Here is the link of the product I bought. Looks like many brands and different types on amazon but I choose mine when they went on sale for a day for around $20. 

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B074SZ7FXT?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_title

     

    Sorry to hear about you apples but keep trying and the only way I can stop our deer is with really good fencing. They stay out of the garden, with fencing, where we have fruit and veg but now have foxes that are getting in and eating our tomatoes. Love those guys cause I kept wondering about my hits with rats when I couldn’t find them the next day. The game cam footage and me spooking them out of the garden in the middle of the day made me realize where those rats were going. 

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    I have a setup that might be of interest to you… let me try and paste the whole article here, but if it looks wonky, just click the link below my signature.

     

    I really got (back) into air-gunning as a result of my yard being taken over by rats and chipmunks!  They have destroyed my courtyard and front walkway.

    I've gone through a few PCP airguns before landing on the EDgun Leshiy as my primary airgun.   The constant with all of them before the Leshiy was the ATN X-sight on top and a few different IR lights supporting it.

    I started with the x-sight II HD, and it was at the time the perfect solution for me.  While I think it's a great entry level NV scope, it certainly had it's issues… for me it was the need for an external battery, eye relief (it was basically nothing), and the zoom buttons took way longer to get on target than I often had time for with rats!  My upgrade to the ATN X-Sight 4K Pro would have to wait until it came out though!

    I paired it with a few different IR gun lights, and as with the battery, they just seemed to be too bulky for the Leshiy.  I was searching Amazon one day, and found that pistol gun lights might be the better choice.  I ended up with the Streamlight TLR-1 IR, show above.

     

    My night kit though goes well beyond what's on the EDgun Leshiy.  I fully embrace every piece of technology I can to give me the upper hand.  One of my biggest weapons in this battle is Outdoor night vision cameras and IR spot lights.  I use the Nest IQ (4K) Outdoor cameras.  They are expensive, but the image quality (very much needed to pickup rats) is leaps and bounds above the previous versions.  You can also opt for other cameras, or even the older Outdoor HD model (which is basically 50% less!)
     

    Nest Camera, The ultimate backyard pesting tool with the EDgun Leshiy

    The secret to Night Vision though is the IR.  You can go from grainy to perfectly clear when you turn an IR on and off.  The issue with these lights is they all mostly use an expense CR123a battery… and you rip through them.  I stumbled across a more permanent solution, and the results were nothing short of amazing.  It not only made the security camera perfectly clear, it did the same for the scope!
     

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    I use my iPad or Phone with the Nest app.  I setup zones with each camera, and when it detects an object moving, it throws an alert on my phone, along with an image of what it captured.  This makes catching the very skittish rats a lot easier!  It also lets me keep the scope on area, and keep an eye out on the other hot spots.

    So the final upgrade was the ATN X-Sight 4K Pro 3-14x!  This is a very big upgrade from the HD II series… including: a dedicated zoom wheel, internal 18hr battery, 4K sensor, 30mm rings, and eye relief… to name just a few.  I've struggled a bit being an early adopter, but the firmware updates are starting to roll in, and it's been a true pleasure to use.  If you're looking for the perfect day/night hunting scope… then look now further!

     
     
     

     
     
    Cheers,
     
    Tim
     

     


    I use my iPad or Phone with the Nest app.  I setup zones with each camera, and when it detects an object moving, it throws an alert on my phone, along with an image of what it captured.  This makes catching the very skittish rats a lot easier!  It also lets me keep the scope on area, and keep an eye out on the other hot spots.



    So the final upgrade was the ATN X-Sight 4K Pro 3-14x!  This is a very big upgrade from the HD II series... including: a dedicated zoom wheel, internal 18hr battery, 4K sensor, 30mm rings, and eye relief... to name just a few.  I've struggled a bit being an early adopter, but the firmware updates are starting to roll in, and it's been a true pleasure to use.  If you're looking for the perfect day/night hunting scope... then look now further!

     
     
     

     
     
    Cheers,
     
    Tim
     
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LTU-013
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Guys thank you so much for a lot of good ideas.

I will start with inexpensive upgrades.

I had a couple of those solar powered lights, I already attached to other trees close to a peach tree. Went to Harbor Freight and got that cheap motion sensor. With sprinkler, lights and motion sensor I have a much bigger chance those bastards can sneak undetected and way less chance of false alarm. 

Tim, such an impressive setup. I don't want to dive into that yet. Hope it's not a permanent problem, it's the first year when I'm under such a persistent attack. I had deer problem, but sprinkler almost completely solved that. Fortunately, deer don't climb trees. I didn't expect invasion of raccoons. I didn't expect those bastards would completely ignore sprinkler and lights, would climb a peach tree, shake peaches down, brake branches.  Even shots didn't bother too much unless pellets start hitting head. 

I have another kind of peach tree, ripe fruits a couple weeks later, I'm ready to sacrifice this year crop but eliminate that gang of raccoons. 

So far extremely satisfied with my Daystate Pulsar .25 – such a beast, very quiet and accurate. Some people call laser useless gimmick, yesterday it worked pretty well. I don't have night scope yet and in the dark, laser helps to aim a lot.

 

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Yeah, I tend to lean towards the Overkill side of things with my hobbies ?

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hawkeye69
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I asked about the distance because I use Amcrest security cameras on my house and Blue Iris software. You can set the areas to monitor, the sensitivity, schedule times, object detection size, speed, hot spots, etc., etc. Various alert methods, email, PC speaker sound, phone app., etc.

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Hawkeye, what model would you recommend? I looked at Amazon they have a lot of different models. 

Camera would be nice, yesterday I was waiting till at least two alert systems will start working, to be sure it is not false. Still woke up in the middle of the night – sprinkler was working, motion sensor was beeping, I ran outside and it was empty yard.

At least with camera, I can see what is going on, don't have to get up if it is just wind moves branches.

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Hawkeye, what model would you recommend? I looked at Amazon they have a lot of different models. 

Camera would be nice, yesterday I was waiting till at least two alert systems will start working, to be sure it is not false. Still woke up in the middle of the night – sprinkler was working, motion sensor was beeping, I ran outside and it was empty yard.

At least with camera, I can see what is going on, don't have to get up if it is just wind moves branches.

It mainly depends on the situation. They have wireless cameras but you still need an outlet for power and a good wireless signal. I used these:

https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-Surveillance-Weatherproof-Detection-IP2M-852W/dp/B07BDQJW74/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1534292097&sr=8-20&keywords=amcrest+wifi+camera

This is the software:

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Iris-Full-Version-Supports-Cameras/dp/B005DMX1OM/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1534292202&sr=1-3&keywords=blue+iris+software

Blue Iris also has a free android phone app.

 

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