More CenterPoint nonsense

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    ptthere
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    So, I bought a Crosman F4 before Christmas, I must say it is a fun NP rifle. But, I read up on the reviews of several air rifles before I bought it and convinced myself that whichever NP rifle I settled on, the scope was probably going to be a joke. So that being said, I bought a different scope for it before I ever actually bought the rifle.

    Anyway, the 4×32 Center Point never got mounted. I never even actually took the bubble-wrap off of it. I mounted the new scope that I bought and carried on with it. Then a couple of days ago I was in my kitchen and noticed 6 deer about 40 yards away from the window. The Center Point scope was sitting on a shelf in the nearest closet, so I grabbed it quick thinking that I could get a closer peek at the deer. When I pulled it out and raised it up to look through it, I was quickly distracted away from the deer because the reticle was canted about 20 degrees clockwise from turret alignment.

    Crosman makes some decent air rifles IMO, but what is up with these junk scopes? About 10 years ago I bought a 4-16×44 CP for my .17 HMR, and it's construction and accuracy never let me down. Maybe I got lucky with it. But this 4×32 CP is a piece of crap. It even feels cheap just holding it, let alone looking through it. I was thinking about just gifting it to someone who might need a cheap scope to get started out with but now that I found out that this one is defective right out-of-the-box, I can't even do that in good conscience. What I do find even more interesting is that the "included" CP scope in these packaged air rifle combos is not the same 4×32 CP scope that is sold on shelves… which suggests to me that they know that they are packing the most bottom-of-the-barrel scopes that they can possibly manufacture with these air rifles. To an unsuspecting or uninformed buyer, I find this disappointing for a guy who may be buying this as a gift for his son or something, thinking that the scope will match the quality of the air rifle, only to find out later that little Timmy can't hit the broad side of a barn because the equipment is defective.

    I would rather that companies like Crosman either up-charged the cost of the air rifles by $25 or more and included a half-decent optic, or cut the cost of the air rifle altogether by $5 or so and just included some decent rings with no scope at all. I am a believer in "you get what you pay for," but it has been proven that you can get a half-decent scope on a budget that actually holds zero pretty well. This 4×32 CP doesn't even fit into that category. Anyway, that's my CenterPoint rant lol.

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    JimNM
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    Nvm….

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    fishinwrench
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    Agreed !  

    Why even bother including a scope.  If the rifle has no open sights then at least include a scope that will at least get you by until a better one can be chosen.  If it has open sights then don't include a scope at all and save yourself, AND THE CONSUMER, the  expense.

     

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    Eddie_E
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    I'd take the plastic pop-up sights off an Umarex toy gun over the CP 4×32.

    I wonder how may returned Crosman springers were actually good guns that people returned because the scope was all over the place?

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    Eddie_E

    I wonder how may returned Crosman springers were actually good guns that people returned because the scope was all over the place?

     

    Right?    Or how many just get tossed in the closet and forgotten because of it.  

    If getting more folks into airguns is the goal…..then they are kicking the ball right out of bounds before the game even starts.

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    ptthere
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    Eddie_E

    I wonder how may returned Crosman springers were actually good guns that people returned because the scope was all over the place?

    I completely agree, which makes the argument for a better scope even stronger.

    Fewer returns = better reputation and more potential future sales.

    Fewer returns = less overhead costs all-around, further justifying investment in a better scope from the manufacturer.

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    Skillet
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    Yes, it’s a big problem that is likely turning alot of newcomers away from the shooting sports, and a poor marketing practice,

    But all manufacturers/distributors do it. Just sell them with irons, I say.

    We all know that springers can trash scopes, but not all casual shooters do. Even dedicated airgun scopes can fall prey to the that deadly two-way-snap. 

    NP guns are infamous scope smashers.

    For my part, I grew up doing alot of shooting offhand with low-power and irons. I simply dont shoot well offhand with high powered optics, and seem to forget to bring my picnic table and sandbags when I’m going after pecan-bottom squirrels…

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    Saltlake58
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    CP scopes are OK but definitely budget type.  Looks like they are trying to move into the mid-range but still budget.  If a scope comes in a package, it's probably worthless as that's where most vendors will cut costs.  I keep them for other rifles like a 10/22

     

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    Elbowgrease
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    I personally have never seen a CP scope that was worth a crap. Not saying there not out there but I have never seen one. Anytime I hear Center Point from someone who just purchased a new box store springer I cringe and tell them to replace it right away. When they say its fine I tell them just wait for it, it will break. Next thing I know they are telling me that something is wrong with their scope. "The crosshairs turn when adjusting the mag on it." I just tell them I told you so.

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