Marauder Question

I'm thinking of getting the Marauder .177 for target, plinking and pest control. My first PCP.
I was on a major air gun site chatting with a salesman and not sure if he was BSing me or not.

1. I asked if all new Marader's were regulated and the answer was yes.

2. I saw a quick review on the 2018 shot show and the rep says the regulator can be turned off so power adjustment can be made. 

Anyone confirm the above. Also, is the Marauder as quiet as it appears to be in Utube videos?

Thanks
 
I have a Gen 2 .177 marauder. 

1. The Field and Target model has a regulator. Not the standard model.

2. The first model, which was never released, was touted to have a power adjuster. The Field and Target model which is coming out shortly, will not 

3. The .177 is extremely quiet. Shoot it in my backyard all the time. 

The Field and Target model will get more shots but at the sacrifice of less power than the standard model out of the box. 

I suggest getting the base model. 
I get an easy 50+ shots with no change in POI at 40 yards on a single fill. I did buy a reg for mine, put it in, was more trouble tuning than it was worth. If getting a .177 just put some quality glass on it and shoot it. 
The one "mod" I did do to mine was a single shot tray. Groups are tighter at my 40 yard target than those shot with a mag. 

BTW mine prefers the JSB 10.34.
 
Welcome Airslave,
I agree the Marauder makes a great first PCP. Consider how how you will charge the gun-pump or tank? If you shoot a lot pumping will likely get old.
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There are lots of mods and aftermarket stuff available if you decide to go that route and the Marauder is an easy gun to work on.

 
Airslave,

As the previous posts above recommend the Marauder, I'll second that. I use a Marauder for Field Target competition, and, with a little knowledge and some simple tinkering, it can suit a competition minded shooter at 12 ft.lbs, or can be adjusted to higher velocity hunting standards. Add a regulator, and some aftermarket parts, that are readily available to the base model, and it'll beat more expensive rigs out there, hands down. If you are not willing to tinker, the regulated Field Target model would probably be in order. The regulated Field Target model is not adjustable power wise, meaning, there is no way to adjust the regulator on the fly, so to speak, to change the regulated output. The gun IS, however, still able to be adjusted by the normal Benjamin Marauder adjustment. These would be your hammer spring adjustment, hammer length adjustment, and valve transfer port adjustment. These are what is to be adjusted when higher or lower velocities are desired. 
I describe my Marauder that I use for Field Target on several different episodes of my Field Target Tech Channel on U Tube, Including sections on the equipment and accessories that I use, to the installation of a regulator, as well as a total teardown, and rebuild. I also have videos testing the setup after the rebuild.

Hope this helps, hope I can help as well.

Tom Holland 
Assistant Match Director 
Eastern Suffolk Competitive Airgunners Association (ESCAA) Long Island NY escaaclub.com 
 
Thanks everyone for the input. To tell ya the truth, I had already decided on the Marauder quite a while ago but the whole filling thing steered me off course. Everything I had read said it is a premium rifle with lots of mods and out of the box accurate(depending on who you talk to). I shudda listened to myself. 

I will probably go the carbon tank(CC????) route because I plan on shooting a lot. I will need to research this as to where to buy and size. I have a dive shop 10 min from my house so filling won't be an issue. From what I have seen, the price of a quality pump is almost (not quite but close enough) the same as a tank and a whole lot more fun. I don't have a problem with a pump but I'll be shooting enough to warrant the tank..... I think. 

No, I'm not made of money. That said I tend to get sucked into whatever I put my mind to which always leads to spending more money than I should. The price of the Marauder is so cheap for what you get. It's been around for quite awhile a parts are everywhere. So to me, it's seems like the right choice. I'm back on track now.

I have no idea what all the mod terminology is. Did I tell you I hate being a NOOB? But I will learn. I love to tinker so this sounds like it's right up my alley.....

For all the replies, you guys are kick butt good. The responses were as I expected. Sound advice from experience people. I will try to live up to the advice, learn and apply as much as I can and someday be able to pass my knowledge to others. Who knows, someone may even listen to me? 

Thank you all for helping... an old fart.....
 
Just bought an Impact, but started with a Marauder. Fantastic starter gun. It's adjustable, which most guns really aren't. You can get it regulated or unregulated. The Field and Target https://www.crosman.com/marauder-field-and-target-22-cal is the regulated version. Gets fantastic reviews. However, Crosman lists it as "Coming Soon" and has listed it that way for a couple years.

If you order it through the custom shop, they'll build it with a regulator if you wish. More expensive, and you can buy other guns in that price range that may be better for your purposes. https://www.crosman.com/custom-shop/.  $600 plus price tag

The Fortitude might actually be a better .177 plinking gun, or buy a Marauder and add a Huma regulator. I don't like to buy projects, so the buy and add a regulator is out for me.

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You will need a pump. The Benjamin pump is OK, but others work as well for less or a Hill is about 25% more efficient.

 
Airslave,

If you like to tinker, and are mechanically inclined, a Marauder is right up your alley. Sorry I got into the details of adjustment and foreign terminology, I don't want you to feel overwhelmed. As I said, I have several videos on my channel that describe exactly how it works, I use diagrams ( I try, anyway, an artist I am not) in order to explain the operation of a Marauder, which is relatively simple. It would be good to familiarize yourself with it's operation and adjustments before the gun is even in your hands. This will make any adjustment or future modifications easier, because you'll already be familiar with it's operation and adjustments. When I first took apart my Steyr, I watched every video at least 10 times or more, and paused each video, step by step. Same with the Marauder. Before a year and a half ago, I never had one apart. I can take it apart now in my sleep. Now, there's nothing on a Marauder that I cannot fix. Familiarizing yourself with the workings of the gun will also aid in troubleshooting problems, and aid in identifying problems or potential problems.
As far as Carbon fiber tanks are concerned, go with brand new. These tanks have a 15 year lifespan, so if you buy a used one for a few dollars less than a new one, and it's already a few years old, it's not really worth it in the long run. Every 5 years, it has to be hydro tested, and after 15 years, it's done. JD Airman is the authority on these, you can probably get the best price through him.

Hope this helps, 
Anything I can help you with feel free to give me a shout.

Tom Holland 
 
Airslave - Gotta agree on the carbon fiber tanks, buy new. Get it filled at a paintball shop.

As for the 15 year lifespan, that's a legal thing. Department of Transportation is the regulatory body has decreed that the tanks must be tested every 5 years, and after 15 years, any paintball or scuba shop is forbidden to fill the tank. Unless you have your own compressor, the tank is useless after 15 years, so if you see a cheap tank on eBay, it's probably an out of service tank that is over 15 years old, and worthless to you. Tom's advice on the tanks is good and I agree fully.

His channel is good too, check it out.

 
Like I said before.... you guys are kick butt good!!!

I'll order the Marauder the first of the month. Wood or synthetic? What will a tank cost? Do I start big, medium or small? Any connectors/adapters needed?

I'm old enough that in 15 yrs I'll be gone and family has already fought or killed each other for the toys I have collected. Jokes on them though.... I spent it all!!

Getting really excited about this! I'll look at the videos.

Thanks so much for your help.
 
Saltlake,
Thanks for the kind words, but I would like to make a note on getting air at a paintball shop. I would recommend against it, get air from a scuba shop.
I first started getting paintball air for my newly acquired Steyr LG 110 FT. Gun shot great for the first 2 months, then accuracy and consistency went downhill. Gave the gun to Hector Medina, Steyr repair representative. When he disassembled the gun, the gunk and crap that was in the gun was horrendous. The regulator had to be disassembled piece by piece and cleaned. Cost me a few hundred to learn that lesson. Paintball shops tend not to have the proper moisture and particle filtration as compared to scuba shops. I say if you can't breathe it, you shouldn't shoot it. I'll never use paintball air ever again, and never had a problem since. And to be honest. ........scuba shop was and is always cheaper.....
Just a FYI to all in order to save a lot of headaches....

Tom Holland 
 
Airslave - don't get hung up on the technical stuff yet. Do this and cut through the noise (and you'll get lots and lots of noise on these forums !)

1. buy a gun, scope, scope rings and a way to refill the gun.
​2. Buy for a Marauder, buy Crosman DOME pellets.
3. Shoot your gun

​You can get into all the other crap later. For now, the Marauder shoots great right out of the box. Just shoot and enjoy. I've never washed my pellets for the Marauder and probably never will and shoot quarter sized groups at 50 yards.
 
Saltlake58....Glad you put that in.

No, I don't dive in stupidly. Like you said, shoot and enjoy and that's my goal. I'm to new, toooooo old to be thinking world class shooting or anything like that. Anyway, I did a lot of competition with archery and it's a PITA....... made my arrows, strings and the list goes on.........................

I like to know how it works. I just watched Tom's video installing the regulator(I won't be doing this) and it all made sense. At least I understand the parts and how they work.

I appreciate all the input from you all. I learn from doing, re-doing, then getting the results I want. If mine gets quarter size groups at 50 yards, I'd be a happy shooter.

Thanks again.
 
"Saltlake58"Airslave - don't get hung up on the technical stuff yet. Do this and cut through the noise (and you'll get lots and lots of noise on these forums !)
1. buy a gun, scope, scope rings and a way to refill the gun.
​2. Buy for a Marauder, buy Crosman DOME pellets.
3. Shoot your gun
​You can get into all the other crap later. For now, the Marauder shoots great right out of the box. Just shoot and enjoy. I've never washed my pellets for the Marauder and probably never will and shoot quarter sized groups at 50 yards.
Good advice.
 
"Xbowsniper"Saltlake,
Thanks for the kind words, but I would like to make a note on getting air at a paintball shop. I would recommend against it, get air from a scuba shop.
I first started getting paintball air for my newly acquired Steyr LG 110 FT. Gun shot great for the first 2 months, then accuracy and consistency went downhill. Gave the gun to Hector Medina, Steyr repair representative. When he disassembled the gun, the gunk and crap that was in the gun was horrendous. The regulator had to be disassembled piece by piece and cleaned. Cost me a few hundred to learn that lesson. Paintball shops tend not to have the proper moisture and particle filtration as compared to scuba shops. I say if you can't breathe it, you shouldn't shoot it. I'll never use paintball air ever again, and never had a problem since. And to be honest. ........scuba shop was and is always cheaper.....
Just a FYI to all in order to save a lot of headaches....
Tom Holland
Tom -
Thanks for the tip, and I really wish I had the option. Scuba shops are few and far between here in Salt Lake. There are a couple shops, but way across town. I called around when I needed to get my carbon fiber tank 5 year certification and it was closer to drive out to Rocky Mountain Air Solutions, the same place they take tanks to be certified than to take the tanks to the dive shops. Not a lot of places to dive around here so dive shops are few and far between. And I think both of them top out at 3000 PSI. 

A compressor may be in my near future.

By the way, if you want to see an interesting business model, look up the dive shops here in SLC. They all have the talent to get your certified, but they are mostly travel agents catering to the people that like to dive, selling diving packages. I think there are a grand total of two places where people can dive here and see anything interesting. One is a Hot Springs up in Heber, UT, the other is a deep natural spring in desert someone planted some tropical fish in. Oh the joys of desert living.