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Lots to go thru here on compressors and tanks!

Forums Air Tanks, Pumps, Compressors, & Filters Lots to go thru here on compressors and tanks!

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    Patrick1
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    Greetings!! I have several airguns and 2 PCPs. I bought a "shoebox" compressor, though, and it lasted only about 5 months. 1 airgun needs 300 bar to fill, completely, and the other needs 250. The shoebox now "struggles" to get to 2500PSI, so no full fills! One question I have is- do any of these folks offer actual "warranties" as we know them, in the U.S., you know, where the manufacturer actually stands behind their product? Or is this just the wild, wild West/buyer beware?

    My shoebox needs repair but I can't' understand where to get the correct parts needed or even if the compressor is really repairable. Watched a LOT of YouTube videos on similar products but none seem to be exactly like the one I got (from R&L). Not denigrating them as they were helpful to me. It looks similar to the Talon Tunes product.

    I am interested in growing my knowledge but this has been a stumbling block for me. I'm not afraid to "tinker" and tried to do a bit with the shoebox compressor but to no avail.

    Any help would be appreciated!

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    Skydivingmiami
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    Unfortunately shoebox is closed for business.
     

    What model shoebox do you have? Normally they can be rebuild many times over. Easy to do also. Just change a couple o rings and it’s back in business.  Did yours come with a rebuild kit?

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    Kaeokini
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    Aloha Patrick,

    What model shoebox do you have? I have a F10 and what you are describing is the piston needs to be rebuilt, its not hard to do. Mainly changing out the o-rings.

    Aloha, Keone

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    Patrick1
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    Probably will get in trouble for posting the link but…..

    https://www.rlairgunsupply.com/High-Pressure-Air-Items_c_61.html

    The RL Mini-type. Several knock offs to it as well. I have replaced O-rings, cleaned and siliconed what I could but…..not sure what else is wrong!

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    dizzums
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    if you buy a solid name im sure you'll get a standard warranty of some kind .. your going to pay 2 or 3 times as much though so your not actually gaining jck sht … its not really buyer beware on some of the stuff .. its 'buyer understand' what your buying … basically a low duty cycle semi disposable unit in many cases .. you can get the job done with them and theyll last for quite awhile usually with minor upkeep if the usage is reasonable and theyre treated like theyre light duty … burning up 10 thousand rounds of pellets and filling 5 – 100cf bottles with it a week is not a reasonable expectation if you think its going to last 10 years and 'wears my wawwanty' lol ..

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    Cannonball
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    I think there is confusion on the compressor you currently have. It’s technically not a shoebox compressor. There used to be a company that made the actual Shoebox compressor, it had Shoebox written on the case it was in. This compressor wasn’t anything like the one you have. You connected it to a standard compressor that would pump to 120 – 150 psi and it boosted the air pressure to around 4500 psi. You have an electric compressor that works on it’s own without an additional compressor needed. I haven’t had one like you currently have and the reviews seem very mixed on them. I feel a Yong Heng is one of the best budget compressors you can buy if you are not wanting to spend the additional money for a Coltri or an Alkin. They are easy to work on and parts are readily available and not expensive. The one I have is about a year old and still works fine. If you can spend the money for an Coltri or Alkin you shouldn’t have any problems and the compressor will last for many years.

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    Keith2324
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    Do you have this…

    Or this…

    If you have the actual, original "Shoebox" you will be out of luck with repairs as the proprietor is no longer in business. If you have the RL compressor, you should be able to get parts for that particular unit.

    Keith.

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    Patrick1
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    Thanks for the reply!

    I have the orange one. My error! I thought all the very small ones were called "shoebox" compressors.

    I have taken the device apart 4-5 times, replace o-rings, etc and the only issue I can see is that there seems to be a small "screw hole" at the top of the cylinder head that is empty. There wasn't a replacement part for this in the kit I got and, of course no schematic to identify all the parts. The only thing I couldn't replace was the ball valve under the top of the piston but I replaced everything else that I had parts for. I have emailed Talon Tunes and R&L to try to get replacement "kits" but I don't know where else to go……

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    Patrick1
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    dizzums

    if you buy a solid name im sure you'll get a standard warranty of some kind .. your going to pay 2 or 3 times as much though so your not actually gaining jck sht … its not really buyer beware on some of the stuff .. its 'buyer understand' what your buying … basically a low duty cycle semi disposable unit in many cases .. you can get the job done with them and theyll last for quite awhile usually with minor upkeep if the usage is reasonable and theyre treated like theyre light duty … burning up 10 thousand rounds of pellets and filling 5 – 100cf bottles with it a week is not a reasonable expectation if you think its going to last 10 years and 'wears my wawwanty' lol ..

    I only used occasionally(2 times per week) and only to fill the PCPs. I never used for more than a 5-8 minute top off of the guns.

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    Patrick1
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    Cannonball

    I think there is confusion on the compressor you currently have. It’s technically not a shoebox compressor. There used to be a company that made the actual Shoebox compressor, it had Shoebox written on the case it was in. This compressor wasn’t anything like the one you have. You connected it to a standard compressor that would pump to 120 – 150 psi and it boosted the air pressure to around 4500 psi. You have an electric compressor that works on it’s own without an additional compressor needed. I haven’t had one like you currently have and the reviews seem very mixed on them. I feel a Yong Heng is one of the best budget compressors you can buy if you are not wanting to spend the additional money for a Coltri or an Alkin. They are easy to work on and parts are readily available and not expensive. The one I have is about a year old and still works fine. If you can spend the money for an Coltri or Alkin you shouldn’t have any problems and the compressor will last for many years.

    Yeah! My mistake there. Thought all the small, non water cooled ones were called shoebox. I'm new to the PCP stuff and not yet ready to spend $2-3000 for the high end compressors as I am learning, or re-learning about the equipment. Sounds like the Yong Heng is the way to go for me, right now……..if I can find a real Yong Heng with all of the original features, esp the 2nd water drain on the left side of the compressor. Or is this asking too much?

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    Patrick1
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    BTW, If I get the Yong Heng, I want to upgrade on delivery of dry air, now that I better understand the downside of NOT having the dry air. My current use of the R&L unit is not excessive, I don't believe, as I shoot only a few times per week. I am re-reading some other posts on this site to see if I missed something like not using the auto stop, which puts a lot of unnecessary stress on the compressor….so release air before turning off the motor.

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    Patrick1
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    Here is a group of photos of my compressor. There is a small hole at the top of the cylinder that is pictured. Can anyone advise if there is supposed to be a screw/spring/valve in there.

    If so, it is, obviously, missing……..so where can I get these parts? Please help……I can't shoot!!

     

    https://imgur.com/a/JV0W3QS

     

     

     

     

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    MaineJim
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    I went through the thread and looked at your pics and it doesnt appear that theres a bolt in that block .

    If it indeed it was there providing a seal you wouldn't be able to build any preassure at all,that hole is too big.

    I have a picture of it  but i haven't figured how to post it it here.

    There has to be a leak on one of the fittings ,problem is its hard to find it while the compressor is running .

    What you can do is put a plug on the fill whip or if you dont have one connect it to a gun bring it up to the max preassure it will go and shut it off.

    With the case open you should be able to hear the leak,mine had one on one of the fittings that was loose and thats how i found it.

    Mine also woudnt build preassure past a certain point.

    If you ever need any parts there are available on aliexpress,but my guess is you have a leak past a certain level of preassure.

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    fe7565
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    To try to find a leak you could use soap bubbles. 

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