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    ChuckHunter
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    FrankinFairfield

    I know a lot of shooters remove the stock from the rifle when shipping, packing it next to the action and using the action to protect the stock. JimE on he AA Classifieds ships his 300s that way..

    That's exactly how I shipped it…

    Wrapped the action and stock separately in bubble wrap and packed it very tightly with newspapers and packing paper. It was rock solid with no movement in the box. But it looks like it was ran over by something! And looks like it got wet. I have a good friend who is a lawyer ! And if they give me to much grief I'm going for more than just the replacement value. Seems the little guy always gets stepped on but I'm not letting that happen….truthfully I'm hoping that looks are deceiving and the gun is intact!

    James from Michigan, 

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    STO
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    FedEx insurance is outright fraud, UPS makes it slow and really really annoying to make a claim, and USPS' generally it is easier to not bother insurance-wise. My recommendation, to you or anyone else, is to use a third party insurer when shipping things. I have, unfortunately, shipped enough things that I've had to make claims through all the aforementioned, and often times once you find out the "rules" necessary to make a claim you realize that it is absolutely ridiculous. FedEx for example requires that you have photographed the package on all six sides BEFORE opening it in order to make a claim. 

     

    The reason I'd recommend a 3rd party insurer is that they have always been the easiest to work with, the most prompt, courteous, and reasonable. In almost two decades of playing this game now, I've never had my preferred 3rd party insurer deny a claim. For them, the business is selling insurance not selling some sort of fraudulent gravy to their primary product (shipping). After all, you have to go out of your way to purchase their insurance, so if it is useless you'll never be stupid enough to use it. The prices are also much much better, again because it can't function as a con it has to function as a good competitive insurance product. 

    I realize this isn't helpful to you (OP) and I'm very sorry to see the outrageous damage that was done. Looking at it, it looks like the package got caught in automated sorting equipment. I've gotten orders back mangled that badly or worse. The worst I've ever gotten back was, literally, just the label physically cut off the package mailed back to me in an envelope saying "whoops, so sorry we f***ed up, if you fill out this paperwork 8 months later we'll tell you that you're SOL and can go f*** yourself." (yes I filled out the paperwork and waited, just for hilarity) 

     

    Once again my condolences. Nobody wins when the carrier screws up. I wish you all the best when resolving it. :) Also photograph, or better yet video, EVERYTHING. 

     

    Thanks for that info could help some of us, who is your 3rd party insurer?

    I refuse to use USPS for this reason sorry for your loss.

    I like Shipstation. Obviously these things can be a little controversial, but again in umpteen years and many lost/destroyed packages they've always come through for me. 

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    Bowhunter73
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    I shipped a muzzleloader to a guy in Kentucky the middle of April filed a claim they denied my claim 30 days later so I had to appeal it this I sent pictures of the damage what it looked like before and I haven't heard a word since, so good luck.

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    crosman2016
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    If I ever have to ship something, I don't use the post office.  Never had much luck using the post office.  That box looks horrible OP!

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    ChuckHunter
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    Well I received the package back today and went straight to the post office…they basically said we're sorry and your screwed!

    The action and scope are in fine shape unbelievably but stock for a rare beeman crow magnum is completely missing! And they told me I would have to prove somehow what was actually in the box…yay! And the real kicker is the post master who I reamed a new xxx hole said there could be issues with shipping a firearm also…really! the freaking post master doesn't even know the laws of his own state…not a firearm in the state of Michigan. Wow really make you think about the kind of people we have running this country! So I'm having a beer trying to com down and think this though….guess I'm looking for crow magnum stock!!!!

    James from Michigan, 

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    Matt247365
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    Dang! Sorry to hear that. 

    Enjoy the beer my friend.

    I hope it's ice cold 🍺

    Thank you for the update. 

    Matt

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    ChuckHunter

    Well I received the package back today and went straight to the post office…they basically said we're sorry and your screwed!

    The action and scope are in fine shape unbelievably but stock for a rare beeman crow magnum is completely missing! And they told me I would have to prove somehow what was actually in the box…yay! And the real kicker is the post master who I reamed a new xxx hole said there could be issues with shipping a firearm also…really! the freaking post master doesn't even know the laws of his own state…not a firearm in the state of Michigan. Wow really make you think about the kind of people we have running this country! So I'm having a beer trying to com down and think this though….guess I'm looking for crow magnum stock!!!!

    James from Michigan, 

    That is pure BS..!! I bought some vintage Benjamin pellets in the green tins a few years ago. My postman delivered it.
    The package was empty..!! It was torn open and re-taped..I filed a claim and did NOT receive on single penny..There
    went $60+ out the window. Some A-Hole at the post office got themselves three full green tins of Benjamin 22cal pellets..!!

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    r1lover
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    Here's how I remember it goes and there is a time limit to accomplish all this; you have one chance to file a claim, one chance to contest USPS's denial of your claim, and if USPS denies your contest, one chance to have "their" third party arbitrator review your claim.  If the third party sides with the USPS you are screwed, done, fine.  Make sure you provide LOTS of documentation including proof of the completed sale (exchange of funds) and the price the buyer paid. In the eyes of the USPS, that is what it is worth.  USPS was not, in my experience, interested in reimbursing shipping costs.  I had shipped a brand new scope I'd won on eBay to the manufacturer to install a custom reticle in it.  I insured the scope for the full MSRP amount, which was considerably more than I paid for it.  The scope didn't show up at the manufacturer in a reasonable amount of time, USPS couldn't track it beyond my town and finally acknowledged they'd lost it.  I submitted an insurance claim along with all the manufacturer's info on the scope including MSRP.  USPS denied my claim citing insufficient documentation.  I sent them the same info again including a print out of the eBay pages saying I'd won the item and the selling price (I gave up on getting MSRP so I could replace my scope).  USPS again denied my claim stating that I had to show proof that funds had been exchanged!  eBay folks couldn't believe the wringer USPS was putting me through and were terrific in sending me additional info on the completed transaction that they never provide anyone.  I should mention that I had already deleted PayPal's email notifying me of my payment.  The very day I was going to mail my third attempt at reimbursement the scope manufacturer sent me an email acknowledging receipt of my scope.  USPS tracking still indicated the scope was lost somewhere between my post office and the next stop.  Would have been nice if I'd mailed that documentation a day earlier and been successful in getting reimbursed.  It would have served the USPS right.

    BTW, try challenging the USPS guy by telling him that the USPS is an independent agency of the executive branch of the United States federal government and that airguns are neither listed nor match the definition of firearms contained in Title 18 United States Code, Chapter 44, Section 921(a)(2) and see what he says. 

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