Long Range hunting sub-forum

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pcparmy

pcparmy

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MODERATORS and concerned forum members:

It seems like just about every time someone posts a video of a shot past 100 yards, there are some folks that get upset by it. I know there are many, many folks also, who love it and wish to learn the craft of shooting at extended ranges. Especially from practiced/proven shooters like Bob who take the time to contribute here. (Bob has also agreed he would contribute happily to a sub forum like this).

Norm and I were talking, and we would love it, if it pleases the forum......if there could be another sub-forum for long range shooting and hunting. This way people can learn, without the other folks screaming ethics every time the subject comes up. If that isn’t possible or convenient that’s ok, but Norm and I would be happy to share the knowledge we have gained with a willing audience, and I’m sure many others will jump in as well.

Best,

Keith and Norm
 
I'm of the opinion that this type of forum should be approached with some concern. I have no problem with skilled individuals taking, and succeeding, in long shots at birds or game. Not everyone who watches videos and reads the text associated with those videos will end up becoming " skilled marksman's " just because others are. I get it ! It's up to individuals to know their limits with themselves and their equipment. Not everyone knows those limits.
 
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A person doesn't just know their limits, they need to learn and/or discover them. A dedicated forum would help them learn and grow without being turned off by negative posts.

I knew very well when I posted this video that the topic of ethical hunting would be brought up, and members who participated would be divided into two main groups. 

Thats exactly what we would like to avoid by having a separate forum. I still don't understand how clipping a pigeon at 200yds is like committing a crime but doing the same thing at 50yds is just chalked up to the wind or something else.
 
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As long as people learn and discover their abilities without being haphazard I'm all for that ! I've always applied those concepts to mule deer hunting in Colorado. Just because a .300 Weatherby Magnum pushing a 150 gr speer bullet at 3550 fps could easily take deer well beyond 500 yards doesn't mean I would try it. Clipping a pigeon is clipping no matter what the range. Just a guess, but I would say more get clipped at 200 yards then at 50 yards. Like with big game, wounding percent ratios go up with distance.
 
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As long as people learn and discover their abilities without being haphazard I'm all for that ! I've always applied those concepts to mule deer hunting in Colorado. Just because a .300 Weatherby Magnum pushing a 150 gr speer bullet at 3550 fps could easily take deer well beyond 500 yards doesn't mean I would try it. Clipping a pigeon is clipping no matter what the range. Just a guess, but I would say more get clipped at 200 yards then at 50 yards. Like with big game, wounding percent ratios go up with distance.
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You may have a point but gonna say a big game hunter is not likely going to take a shot we’re its not a clean kill.As far as a pester goes there going to take the shot
 
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As long as people learn and discover their abilities without being haphazard I'm all for that ! I've always applied those concepts to mule deer hunting in Colorado. Just because a .300 Weatherby Magnum pushing a 150 gr speer bullet at 3550 fps could easily take deer well beyond 500 yards doesn't mean I would try it. Clipping a pigeon is clipping no matter what the range. Just a guess, but I would say more get clipped at 200 yards then at 50 yards. Like with big game, wounding percent ratios go up with distance.
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You may have a point but gonna say a big game hunter is not likely going to take a shot we’re its not a clean kill.As far as a pester goes there going to take the shot
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Granted ! I wouldn't hesitate shooting a rat at 70 yards with my break-barrel for fear of wounding it. That's because it's a disease carrying hazard to the health of my pet dog and myself. The pigeon, starling, not so much. I have shot my share of both though and I still don't like them to run, or fly, off wounded.
 
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The farmers I shoot for view pigeons worse than rats.
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Totally understand that as well ! Grain loss, disease from droppings, is an issue with farmers and ranchers.

My only point is this. Not everyone who watches your videos, is going to shoot as you do, because they think they can as result of watching long range hunting videos. I hunt wild mushrooms (chanterelles) here in the winter. Every year, it seems someone dies because they read a book on mushrooms. After reading they all of a sudden became an expert. Not the greatest analogy but I think you get my point.
 
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Okay then, exactly how "should" someone go about gaining experience with long range shooting?
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Probably as you did. Slowly working up to longer distances as your knowledge of your weapon and your abilities increase. Nobody should skip short range success because they watch someone consistently whack targets with ease at longer distances. I no I wouldn't ! But I'm only one person on this ball we call earth. Others might think they are Chris Kyle after watching a video when they are not. I personally have no issue with a long range sub forum on AGN. Maybe the moderators could preface this new forum by stating members should take time in working up to the skill levels like you have achieved ? Agree ?
 
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While you have valid concerns it’s a bit reminiscent of trying to “legislate away stupid”. We cant make people do or not do irresponsible things.



But we we can teach them how to do it correctly in a “safe space “ without the thread being derailed each time.

All I’m asking for is a place to share information and hunts, and focus on that. Not focus on defending each shot a hunter takes.

If this sub forum did exist, a rule that prohibits bashing the action should also exist in my opinion. Same as a non hunter would be banned for posting anti hunting statements in the hunting forum.


 
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