If my P-mod has a 60-ish cc capacity, how many times will a 90 - 100 ci bottle top it off? Are there certain brands I should stay away from?
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I cannot recommend the Ninja 90cu-in with EZ-Valve enough. Built in check-valve on the neck which acts as a PV during top-off. No need to backfeed through the valve. Made in the USA. Excellent support and service. Dual gauges. Single action on the valve -- screw down to fill, back off to shut off and bleed. Incredibly easy to use and the valve is rock solid quality.
I fill mine with my LC-110 which has about 15 hours on it. Keeps the duty cycle nice and light.
90 Cubic Inches = 0.052 Cubic Feet
My Pulsar has a 300cc tank and I get about 3 fills from 4500 PSI to 230 bar from 148-150 bar. This gives me about 250 shots before I have to refil my tank.
I fill mine with my LC-110 which has about 15 hours on it. Keeps the duty cycle nice and light.
90 Cubic Inches = 0.052 Cubic Feet
My Pulsar has a 300cc tank and I get about 3 fills from 4500 PSI to 230 bar from 148-150 bar. This gives me about 250 shots before I have to refil my tank.
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I have two 90 c1 Ninja bottles. One 8 years old, the other 5 years old. Started with the Gold 3000 PSI output regulated version, but I managed to destroy the first one (stupidity on my part) and the second reg needs a rebuild. I replaced the regulator on the first one with a Jubilee Valve (5/8 inch neck if you need one) and it still works great. The Ninja valves are not easily available due to supply chain shortages.
The regulated version is nice if you are concerned with overfilling your gun. Bottle can be at 4500 and output is only 3000 no matter what. The Jubilee Valve is just a valve and allows me to put full pressure into my guns. PA sells the Jubilee Valve in both 5/8 for paintball tanks and 7/8 for scuba tanks.
Never counted the number of fills for my Marauder (I think it has a 180cc tube) so can't tell you how many fills but I think it's between 6 and 12 fills. Since the tube on a P-Rod is considerably smaller, you'll get more fills.
The regulated version is nice if you are concerned with overfilling your gun. Bottle can be at 4500 and output is only 3000 no matter what. The Jubilee Valve is just a valve and allows me to put full pressure into my guns. PA sells the Jubilee Valve in both 5/8 for paintball tanks and 7/8 for scuba tanks.
Never counted the number of fills for my Marauder (I think it has a 180cc tube) so can't tell you how many fills but I think it's between 6 and 12 fills. Since the tube on a P-Rod is considerably smaller, you'll get more fills.
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To saltlake's point, regarding overfilling, the bottle I have is slow fill output. I can fully open the valve and the air output remains constant so it's not hyper-blasting my PCP with a huge volume of air very quickly. The fill process is uneventful and takes a few seconds. It allows the PCP to sip the air instead of getting blasted in the face with a firehose.
Lets say my bottle is 300 bar. I get 3 fills into my Pulsar before the bottle is around 230 bar. At this point I could simply leave the valve open and the bottle connected and shoot tethered until the bottle pressure and gun pressure is around 150 bar. I've added capacity by using the bottle tethered.
No issues going regulated bottle either just from a tethering aspect you can tether an unregulated bottle using the approach above.
Lets say my bottle is 300 bar. I get 3 fills into my Pulsar before the bottle is around 230 bar. At this point I could simply leave the valve open and the bottle connected and shoot tethered until the bottle pressure and gun pressure is around 150 bar. I've added capacity by using the bottle tethered.
No issues going regulated bottle either just from a tethering aspect you can tether an unregulated bottle using the approach above.
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LMNOP - good points. Now, one of my bottles is regulated, and one is the Jubilee, which is a slow fill valve. I'd avoid a standard fast fill valve as they are easy to overfill your gun with.
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Thanks for the replies. I have a pile of PA points coming due and may put them towards a small bottle.
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I'm with LMNOP here I have the Ninja tank with the slow fill valve and it is treat. Got the 3000psi regulated to start and that was a mistake cuz when I got my Impact it would not fill it all of the way.
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Is there a chart somewhere that could tell me how long my Nomad would take to fill such a bottle?
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I would not fill 90cu-in with the Nomad; it has a history of self-destructing with extended use. I'm not knocking it -- probably great for your pRod -- but it's a lot of work to initially fill the bottle and top it off. They're just not built for that.
The Nomad with the pRod is pretty well "right sized" for longevity. Adding a 90cu-in bottle into the mix is overloading the cart and asking the mule to carry it.
Bio gives sound advice so if you want the "inexpensive" route go with the Yong Heng and a condensate tower setup. Otherwise you can "go big" and do what I'm doing with the LC-110 that fills my 90 cu-in Ninja.
Undersize the load, oversize the compressor.
The Nomad with the pRod is pretty well "right sized" for longevity. Adding a 90cu-in bottle into the mix is overloading the cart and asking the mule to carry it.
Bio gives sound advice so if you want the "inexpensive" route go with the Yong Heng and a condensate tower setup. Otherwise you can "go big" and do what I'm doing with the LC-110 that fills my 90 cu-in Ninja.
Undersize the load, oversize the compressor.
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Matter of fact, bandg and bio both give really good advice on the Yong Heng and their posts and post history are worth reading. If you go that route. I think you'll end up killing your Nomad very quickly doing 90 cu-in bottle top-offs.
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