Kral SS valve results!

I love how this $180 number keeps coming up. As far as I know only $150 for the Mrods. 

Matt maybe your not quite sure but you definitely aren't the first one who designed a valve that's easier to open than the stock. Also all your doing is an easier to open valve. This valve is a balanced valve designed to eliminate hammer bounce. As far as I know no one else has done so. Only other valve that has such a thing is the Cobra valve which is the predecessor to these SS valves.
 
"SilentMatt"BigTinBoat- Yes, I have been manufacturing the valves in question. Not sure why financial is in quotes... As to Travis not having any original ideas, aren't the majority of guns just copies of the other brand with some slight improvements or changes? How many original ideas have you had

ackuric- Why do you bash the valve and then say you can't wait to get one in your hands on GTA? It is true that we are in business to make money, as is everyone I know who has a business or works for a living.

It's very clear that you two have a personal vendetta against Travis, your reasons are your own. If you think the valve is garbage, don't buy it.

I generally don't try and blab everything I do on the internet. But I did just so happen to be (at least I think so) the first person to make one of those Chinese junk regulators produce respectable recovery times and eliminate creep by installing a Ninja piston in one. I only did this out of necessity. You see when you purchase an $1800 AMERICAN made gun you don't expect that it will arrive with a POS Chinese regulator, do ya? One with a 32 second full pressure recovery time? And creeping 200psi overnight? Neither did I. I then did some investigating and took some measurements and saw what could be done. Once I made the regulator work properly I tuned the gun (which was NO WHERE near tuned for efficiency) and make a nice shooter out of it.

In reference to 2nd bold section, I am now positive this is a rule #4 violation.
 
That sheds a little light on things. Good job on the reg modification, I agree it's a problem that should have never been. Issues from an $1800 gun, that seems to be rampant these days...

It's a violation on the forum to be in business to make money? Lol, you should tattle a little louder, the mod might hear you sooner...
 
"SilentMatt"That sheds a little light on things. Good job on the reg modification, I agree it's a problem that should have never been. Issues from an $1800 gun, that seems to be rampant these days...

It's a violation on the forum to be in business to make money? Lol, you should tattle a little louder, the mod might hear you sooner...
Nope, but it's a violation to ADVERTISE it without paying........see below

#4.Clandestine advertising is prohibited. Promotional posts made by non-sponsored vendors or their affiliates are not allowed; this includes any reviews or links. Furthermore; discussion of banned members, their products, or information leading our members to their websites will be discouraged. 
 
I find it funny this thread has netted me my first negative post as I was accused of "snake oil sales" lol I'm not connected to the makers in anyway shape or form. No money stakes or anything and have received no money or anything else making any of my posts. Lol usually snake oil is about things that don't work. Funny how that is how the 2 people talking trash haven't touched one of the valves. Showing results is all I've done. 

BTW if anyone wants to try to beat any of the tunes with there modified stock valves with no changes to hammers or weights or springs or any anti bounce devices be my guest and prove my ways as "snake oil sales" lol

I've posted many things over the last year showing results of different guns/valves all kinds of things and all of a sudden I post about this SS valve and I'm just a shady guy trying to make sales. Lol I'm a Dairy Farmer that enjoys airguns as my hobby and tools for pests. That's as far as this all goes for me. Not out to make a buck or steer people in the wrong directions. Pretty sure I have a bunch of people that'll back me up on that

This is Michaels forum and he can do as he sees fit. I have total respect for that.
 
I grew up in a sporting goods store. My mother, who ran the business, wasn't interested in hunting, but she was good at double entendres. For example, she once gave me a birthday card with the inscription... I'm like the firefly who backed into a fan.... Delighted, not end!

The one that fits here is... All varmints are thin skinned! 

 
Just a thought .. there has been some really great mods on stock valves that give amazing numbers and kudos to those who have done so and we all learn something from those who have done it. There has also been new internals made, new valves and tweaking existing valves, new hammers, stems, spring rates, adjustable ports.. etc. One innovation leads to another and another. Honestly.. it's all good for all of us. And if someone makes a dollar.. good on them. Outright Plagiarism is not cool.. but tweaking, refining and making something better, more efficient, more powerful is a good thing. We need more home grown innovation in this sport. I personally own several valves from different makers and they all have amazing qualities, and I'm going to own a few more the good lord willing. How about we all support the sport and the advancement of it. 
Just a thought;)
 
+1 oneshot61! Can't believe the trash talking and rule waving. Good to see everyone on here isn't so uptight!
I also think it's great so many guys are coming up with new valve mods, and kudos to those posting their designs for free, I'll have to explore some of those posts. However, complaining about someone building valves and selling them is pretty crazy even if they have similar characteristics to others, which may be or may have a totally different way of going about their results. Look at the Umarex gauntlet, it's basically a plastic qb79 with a compilation of the hpa mods done on these forums for years, yet stacks of people want to buy one if they ever appear😊
 
Wow 

"Dairyboy"So just posting results is a problem? No one said they were ground breaking all I did was simply post results. No one said that a balanced valve was anything new. Since when is making something better an issue? Hmm automobile companies have been doing it for years. Cars have been around for over a century but there still making them and doing upgrades. How can they live with themselves? Lol Trolls are what they are. Matt since your valve is so amazing let's see some actual strings instead of your "estimated strings"
Posting "results"? I think you are boarding on a Rule #4 violation #4 - Clandestine advertising is prohibited. Promotional posts made by non-sponsored vendors or their affiliates are not allowed; this includes any reviews or links. Furthermore; discussion of banned members, their products, or information leading our members to their websites will be discouraged. http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/forum-rules/?view=all

Wow, I know this thread is a year old, but reading this last paragraph from this guy made me think i need to hide in a hole from scrutiny just because I can mod my gun better. WTH? What type of violation can one get into by posting his "RESULTS"? What are the Forums for, if not for sharing information and discussing it? surely not for idiots to scrutinize the "RESULTS"? Are you stupid or what? Clearly the OP did not state or advertise the following statements. "we have these valves for sale, look at what it can do, come buy it." If he did not say those statements, then it's not an advertisement as you all ASSUME. 

The other problem here is that each and everyone has their own ways of doing their own mods. You cannot just pit someone's work against another person. sure it will help the production evolve, but at the same time anyone working in the industry already knew who's doing what better. there is no need to follow someone's path to get to the same place...WOW

You guys call them trolls, i call them stubborn idiots. sorry men, facts are facts. you either wise up, listen and learn or shut up, observe and use the information that is best to you. don't go around pointing fingers and accusing people man. Or think which invention belongs to whom. if the inventors feel that their inventions is record breaking and new, they may have already patented it. then a gain the patents have an expiration, after that anyone is free to use and copy and make it better, or worse. Try to parent your designs, someone may sue you if they have something similar already patented. 

Some of the works on the valve sometimes takes hours to do or mod. These hours correlates to money, time and electricity spent to make. I am sure you dont want to charge $7.25 per hour if you made it in 8 hours. cheap people will never learn the worth of work....

I might get burned or banned for calling people cheap and stupid, but if i do not speak up. The idiot continues to be the idiot, and the moderators that makes judgement will be put to the test if he is an idiot supporter or not... it's freedom of speech baby. speak your mind but don't accuse someone else's work.