JSB pellet manufacturer may be in trouble = bad pellets !

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    gixxer3000
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    (Hope links like this is ok)

    Read the article here – http://airgungurus.com/2015/07/04/jsb-in-trouble/

    Whats your thought on this ?

    -EDIT-

    Would like to mention there are NO facts to this, only rumors sofar.

    /Gix

     

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    FukoChan
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    Uh oh I just bought 5 tins of jsb in 25 Cal. It kinda makes me sad that a company whose been in the business since 91′ is being forced to sell to distributors for cheaper prices. But I’m not sure who to point fingers at. Is it jsbs fault for going cheap and jacking our money for deformed pellets or the distributer?Someone confirm? Well I’ll tell you guys how my 5 tins go. If I see that only 43% of my pellets are good then that would warrant a unsatisfactory call to the company.

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    krasiml
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    I think this is bullshit. In my country, air rifles forum is organized in general order of several months directly from the factory. Actually this spring had a bad batch. By JSB offered to replace the bad pellets. The next two batches are perfect.

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    Cookie
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    I don’t know whether there is any truth in that source but….

    1. JSB have always had people knocking them. There has always been quality issues, serious and not so, yet people still buy them because if they get a good batch then they are normally unbeatable.

    2. The UK market has:

    • A wholesaler, REFUSING to hold an inventory of the full range, that is obviously slapping on a margin before they get to stores.
    • Some companies rebranding JSB pellets and slapping on a large margin.
    • Some stores buying JSB pellets directly, or at most from “Germany”, which cuts out the cost of a UK distributor and therefore allows cheap prices to customers. These companies will purchase anything that customers want (familiar story here?!)

    The overall effect of these is that UK customers are buying from stores/online sources who buy direct and can sell at nearly half the price of most stores who purchase through the official route.

    3. Given the quantity of UK sales of JSB pellets, I cannot conceive that such issues would cause the JSB manufacturing company to run into problems. I can imagine financial difficulties from the decrease in value of the Euro against the USD/other currencies. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that the UK Wholesaler is threatening to look elsewhere if they don’t get better prices, because they are ignorant/stupid enough to both believe that many shooters will accept other pellets and that there is another JSB.

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    bigben
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    My .02, my Mrod used to LOVE JSB Exact Heavies 18.13 grain and now they shoot like butt, my Mrod always shot crossman 14grn premeirs medociore… and it still does…  I thought it was pyramid air fault in shipping and i asked them, they quickly reshipped my entier order (50$ good on pyramid air!!!!!) but these look as bad and still shoot like crap…  i think JSB is having issues and it makes me sad.

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    blackdiesel
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    That article reminds me of a TMZ report, long on rumors and short on facts and full of information from “inside contacts”.

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    MarkUK
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    Hmmm.
    Apparently NONE of the pellets came in at 8.5gr or 8.3gr..
    Seems a little unlikely.
    Looks like they’ve been doing a bit more rounding than they let onto.
    Who knows what the actual weight range of the 162 pellets was.
    Could be 8.25-8.55.
    They should have disclosed the brand of scales they used.
    Using two sets of scales also seems a little odd. Did they weigh some on one set and others on the other set?
    Precision or  accuracy or consistency of scales is close to the limit  at 0.1gr, unless using lab-grade equipment.

    They also did not say how much they paid for the pellets they tested… there could be a good reason that someone is selling exacts off at £6 (GBP) a single tin. I usually have to pay £7+ for bulk.

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    LDD
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    Out of the nearly 50,000 JSB pellets that I own I have not run into any problems, other than the occasional bent skirt from a dented tin in shipping.

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    bigben
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    I would doubt this as well except 4 new tins of 22 cal JSB all shoot like crap, my buddies year old tin shoots lights out….  same gun….  

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    Gundog
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    Now I have an excuse if I shoot like crap.

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    LDD
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    bigbenI would doubt this as well except 4 new tins of 22 cal JSB all shoot like crap, my buddies year old tin shoots lights out….  same gun….  

    A .22 mrod that shoots good is like a gold plated unicorn, so maybe you got a unicorn batch of JSB pellets too. I would check the head size of the newer pellets and the old pellets. My understanding is that from certain sources you can actually get 18Gr heavies in different head sizes. Maybe your old ones were 5.53mm and the new ones are 5.52mm like they should be, it can’t hurt to check. My opinion is that with as many pellets is JSB sales, if quality control had gotten that bad, you would hear untold outrage on every airgun forum on the web.

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    Yrrah
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    My thoughts summed up here: This is what I got when I tried to open the “Gurus” address.  That post reads like Dorothy Dix.

    Credibility? Quoting from this link:  “Remember only follow inks from sources you trust” !
    https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airgungurus.com%2F&h=aAQHJhNBL&enc=AZMAqSs1VEClyxGPVwT7aGisn1nm-GGanzd5plf0O2_hU4wAeMXsWRX-tIUImF46PpKwN6pmHI_LkkaEsg-3hY0Zie1aCjUrK9tRgQCo5jrcHHmHi8pO-m0fzZaCVzQAWl_UvdHn4oh7fFYW_zOQTTgrrdG_ZvWJeeJcFRTVgK5bJQ&s=1

    The unnamed UK “Guru/s” who wrote that couldn’t even find and take a pic of a tin and pellets they were claiming to test. ….  I would not give the UK “Gurus” the time of day.
    Harry G Fuller in OZ.

     

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    Mentolio
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    My Benji Trail NP hates JSB pellets…must be JSBs fault;)

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    billydjann
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    My Marauders use to love JSB pellets …. I ordered 8 tins of various sizes and
    my guns did not like them….and would not shoot consistent any longer.
    I thought at first it was me or the guns… then I read others complaining about the same thing…
    I now use other name brand pellets and stay away from JSB

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    bobad
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    Just tried .177 JSB Diablo Heavy Match 10.34gr and Exact Diablo 8.44. Results were not as good as H&N, Beeman, and even Crosman Premier all in 10.65gr.

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    gixxer3000
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    “bobad”Just tried .177 JSB Diablo Heavy Match 10.34gr and Exact Diablo 8.44. Results were not as good as H&N, Beeman, and even Crosman Premier all in 10.65gr.

    
This thread is not really for test results from people that tried Jsb´s for the first time with limited success if thats the case, no offense. Your gun could have hated Jsb´s in all it´s life. They don´t run great in everything and H&N also make excellent pellets. IMO, they actually look more uniform up close than Jsb´s. Far less of the H&N i have purchased over the years have dented skirts. I have personally discarded many jsb´s with clear visible defects from my last batch (exact heavy .177), but that could also be an unhappy postal workers fault.

    But its possible its just rumors.

    /Gix
     

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    CptMoonlight
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    I remember a couple weeks ago, maybe a month, there was a 100 yd accuracy review on the Benjamin Discovery and the 18.1gr JSB’s were all over. There may be some truth to this, but I think it would take someone who knows how to properly investigate and properly report on their findings. I think in all, time will tell on the JSB’s, but until I see a marked decline in performance, I’ll continue to shoot them.

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    linsfreak
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    Good thing I have 8 tins from months and months ago  ; )

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    KenT7021
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    I read a letter from JSB in reply to the Airguns Gurus post a couple of days ago.It’s basically a prove it or shut up letter with a threat of legal action.I believe it was on the GTA forum.It’s worth reading.To me JSB’s are no better or any worse than the other top pellet brands.Some lots are excellent and some are not.I have an order of the JSB Premium pellets on the way.I hope they shoot well.

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    KenT7021
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    The letter from JSB is now in the non productive post gate of GTA.

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