JSB Hades – Frangible Hollow Point
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January 29, 2019 at 5:10 am Link
Well that’s a little disappointing, what about at higher velocities, would that pull them apart say a 30 ft/lb gun? Also how are they doing for accuracy and out of what guns?
Well that’s a little disappointing, what about at higher velocities, would that pull them apart say a 30 ft/lb gun? Also how are they doing for accuracy and out of what guns?
January 29, 2019 at 6:54 am LinkMonkeydad1969
Here you guys go. I have been playing with them and so has Tofazfou. I took a squirrel and hit it in spine. The area of the spine where I hit it was completely shattered. No pass thru. That was 15yds doing 727fps/18.65fpe. They don't fragment, but they do open up like a mechanical broadhead. Travis from AGD got "Biohazard pellets" from me when we were talking at Shot.
Below is a pic of the retrieved Hades from the squirrel compared to an intact pellet. Also the Hades Tofazfou shot into glycerin soap.
How about accuracy, how do they compare to regular pellets? I'm sure another 200+ fps will make them fragment.
Monkeydad1969
Here you guys go. I have been playing with them and so has Tofazfou. I took a squirrel and hit it in spine. The area of the spine where I hit it was completely shattered. No pass thru. That was 15yds doing 727fps/18.65fpe. They don't fragment, but they do open up like a mechanical broadhead. Travis from AGD got "Biohazard pellets" from me when we were talking at Shot.
Below is a pic of the retrieved Hades from the squirrel compared to an intact pellet. Also the Hades Tofazfou shot into glycerin soap.
How about accuracy, how do they compare to regular pellets? I'm sure another 200+ fps will make them fragment.
January 29, 2019 at 1:22 pm LinkAfter looking at those pictures more I am going to guess tofazfou was shooting them a little faster. The petals have pulled out much better, so I doubt they are really going to break apart. On the plus side though they do seem to open at lower velocities and they are opening with an aggressive shape to them making for good cutting and tearing. This should have a slight advantage over just a round Hollowpoint. So what will be the most telling if these will have a place in the airgun world will be if they can perform accuracy wise.
After looking at those pictures more I am going to guess tofazfou was shooting them a little faster. The petals have pulled out much better, so I doubt they are really going to break apart. On the plus side though they do seem to open at lower velocities and they are opening with an aggressive shape to them making for good cutting and tearing. This should have a slight advantage over just a round Hollowpoint. So what will be the most telling if these will have a place in the airgun world will be if they can perform accuracy wise.
January 29, 2019 at 1:29 pm LinkAccuracy and ballistic coefficient have priority over expansion. If you can't hit your Target and retain energy at the Target what's the use?
Accuracy and ballistic coefficient have priority over expansion. If you can't hit your Target and retain energy at the Target what's the use?
January 30, 2019 at 6:31 pm LinkSo joe how’s the accuracy?
So joe how’s the accuracy?
January 30, 2019 at 6:52 pm LinkI would.be happy if JSB could cure there quality problem with their .25 and .30 cal pellets before they attempt to market a new one.
I would.be happy if JSB could cure there quality problem with their .25 and .30 cal pellets before they attempt to market a new one.
January 31, 2019 at 11:07 am LinkWhy don’t they make thes in 30 cal!!! Wish someone would make a cross hatched tip in a 30 cal, or even a hollow point. I know there’s the polymags, but I have a problem with buying tins with only a 100 pellets in it for the cost.
Why don’t they make thes in 30 cal!!! Wish someone would make a cross hatched tip in a 30 cal, or even a hollow point. I know there’s the polymags, but I have a problem with buying tins with only a 100 pellets in it for the cost.
February 1, 2019 at 7:35 am Linkthx monkeydad for the info and pics,,you the man!.From the info I don't see these as frangible pellets.It did not fragment.Fragmentation has certain expectations?These r deadly on small game for sure.But it did'nt fragment, sending shrapnel into the immediate area.Fragments of the lead pellet should have been found of say 1/2" or even 3/8ths of an inch in diameter of the immediate area of where the pellet entered. The pics show the pellet as maintaining it's mass after a close and powerful impact on living flesh. A good old Daisy FP from 20 years ago would have given the same quick,lethal result,imop.
thx monkeydad for the info and pics,,you the man!.From the info I don't see these as frangible pellets.It did not fragment.Fragmentation has certain expectations?These r deadly on small game for sure.But it did'nt fragment, sending shrapnel into the immediate area.Fragments of the lead pellet should have been found of say 1/2" or even 3/8ths of an inch in diameter of the immediate area of where the pellet entered. The pics show the pellet as maintaining it's mass after a close and powerful impact on living flesh. A good old Daisy FP from 20 years ago would have given the same quick,lethal result,imop.
February 3, 2019 at 11:27 pm LinkI do like that there not passing through, this is nice in areas where you don't want collateral damage
I do like that there not passing through, this is nice in areas where you don't want collateral damage
February 3, 2019 at 11:29 pm LinkBigragu
Why don’t they make thes in 30 cal!!! Wish someone would make a cross hatched tip in a 30 cal, or even a hollow point. I know there’s the polymags, but I have a problem with buying tins with only a 100 pellets in it for the cost.
I bet these in large calibers could be frangible.
Bigragu
Why don’t they make thes in 30 cal!!! Wish someone would make a cross hatched tip in a 30 cal, or even a hollow point. I know there’s the polymags, but I have a problem with buying tins with only a 100 pellets in it for the cost.
I bet these in large calibers could be frangible.
February 6, 2019 at 11:18 am LinkAny word on when us average folk will be able to place an order for/ get our hands on these?
Any word on when us average folk will be able to place an order for/ get our hands on these?
February 6, 2019 at 2:17 pm LinkHanebuth96
Any word on when us average folk will be able to place an order for/ get our hands on these?
Supposed to be available in March… I hate waiting.
Hanebuth96
Any word on when us average folk will be able to place an order for/ get our hands on these?
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