JKHan vs Kalibr

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"ibey26"Hi All,

I am looking for some advice and opinions on what should be next purchase. I am torn between the JKHan Krosa and Kalibr Cricket. I have only found 1 review on youtube. Is anyone else familiar with the JKHan?
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To be honest never heard of that brand. The cricket is tried and tested. Superb shooting at long ranges and it's regulated. 
 
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The Krosa looks very tempting. Price is under $1000.00. Right now WWAG and Talon Tunes are selling them. Prices are about the same on all sights. I don't know the weight but that is the big complaint w/ the Cricket. This is a hobby where it appears you will own several guns more than you need. I have 3 now. once you start it's hard to stop! There is another review on U tube and they are quite happy with the accuracy.
 
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I bought a JKhan Krosa in .25 cal from Randy at RL Airguns about 2 months ago and equipped it with an Aeon 6-24X50 scope .

I have previously owned Kalibrgun Cricket BP's in .22 and .25 cal.

I have shot almost 1,000 JSB Exact King 25.39g pellets thru the Krosa .25 to date.

I shortened the hammer spring to reduce fps from 950 to 870 .

The Krosa shoots just as accurately as the Cricket.

I fill the Krosa to 2800psi (about 190 bar) and for the first 30 shots there is only a 20fps variation. Shots 31 - 45 it widens to 40fps variation.

It uses about 25psi per shot.

One "trick" to the magazine loading: you need to push each pellet into the magazine about a mm beyond where it initially sets. No biggie....I use a ball point pen.

Accuracy: 1/2" groups at 50 yds. consistently and if I "do my part" 1 and 1/2" groups at 100 yds. Which is basically the same results with the Crickets that I used to own.

I find the quality of the Krosa to be excellent.....from my untrained eye atleast.

The action is very smooth with no problems so far anyways.

It looks better IMO than the Cricket.....I owned both wood and synthetic stock Crickets.

The Cricket of course gets more shots per fill albeit at a much higher fill pressure. I used 250bar.

The variation in fps with the Krosa has had no ill effect on target takedown results as far as I can tell anyways. My longest kill was a prairie dog at 141yds just after purchasing the gun from Randy behind his Colorado shop !!! And the wind was blowing across the field from 15 - 25 mph !!
I've had quite a few kills between 100 and 121 yds. This .25 as any .25 hits hard !

It's a GREAT value and rumor has it Randy at RL Airguns is about ready to offer a regulator "upgrade" for the Krosa.

I'm happy just the way it is.

Dave







 
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"Rider1"I bought a JKhan Krosa in .25 cal from Randy at RL Airguns about 2 months ago and equipped it with an Aeon 6-24X50 scope .

I have previously owned Kalibrgun Cricket BP's in .22 and .25 cal.

I have shot almost 1,000 JSB Exact King 25.39g pellets thru the Krosa .25 to date.

I shortened the hammer spring to reduce fps from 950 to 870 .

The Krosa shoots just as accurately as the Cricket.

I fill the Krosa to 2800psi (about 190 bar) and for the first 30 shots there is only a 20fps variation. Shots 31 - 45 it widens to 40fps variation.

It uses about 25psi per shot.

One "trick" to the magazine loading: you need to push each pellet into the magazine about a mm beyond where it initially sets. No biggie....I use a ball point pen.

Accuracy: 1/2" groups at 50 yds. consistently and if I "do my part" 1 and 1/2" groups at 100 yds. Which is basically the same results with the Crickets that I used to own.

I find the quality of the Krosa to be excellent.....from my untrained eye atleast.

The action is very smooth with no problems so far anyways.

It looks better IMO than the Cricket.....I owned both wood and synthetic stock Crickets.

The Cricket of course gets more shots per fill albeit at a much higher fill pressure. I used 250bar.

The variation in fps with the Krosa has had no ill effect on target takedown results as far as I can tell anyways. My longest kill was a prairie dog at 141yds just after purchasing the gun from Randy behind his Colorado shop !!! And the wind was blowing across the field from 15 - 25 mph !!
I've had quite a few kills between 100 and 121 yds. This .25 as any .25 hits hard !

It's a GREAT value and rumor has it Randy at RL Airguns is about ready to offer a regulator "upgrade" for the Krosa.

I'm happy just the way it is.

Dave







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That's a very good review of the Krosa
 
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Thank you Rider1. I agree with Nomadic1 that was a great review very informative. I think I will give the JKHan a shot no pun intended. :) The referenced youtube video was my only reference to go off of and I was curious to see what others thought. I like the look of the rifle the price point and low muzzle report and the location of manometer beneath the stock and not adjacent to the barrel or a safety less rifle like the cricket. I also like the possibility of discovering a not so well known possible gem.
 
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You're very welcome !

Also....I bought the additional moderator (it only costs $35) not because the Krosa was particularly loud but figured I'd try it with little risk.

I was/am quite surprised at how effective it is ......back yard friendly believe it or not. It looks like a very simple piece but it works. It does lengthen the gun 6 and 1/2 inches but nice to have the option.

I probably sound like a paid spokesman for this gun but I'm definitely not.

If there is/was something I didn't like or think was right I'd spill the beans.

Another thing I like vs the Cricket is the fill port. Cricket setup works fine but Krosa is better.

My Krosa in .25 cal with the above mentioned 6-24X50 Aeon scope weighs 8.9 lbs. Which happened to be the exact weight my Cricket .22BP with the same scope was. When Randy and I weighed them we were surprised they were the same !

Dave
 
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So decided to go with the JKhan Noblesse Krosa in .22 Sepatia finish from RLairgun supply. My initial thoughts upon unboxing was is this really what I ordered? The rifle arrived in a very non descript unbranded box. Inside the box was lined with with egg crate, 2 standard included 10 round magazine an additional higher power yield hammer spring, and a fill port probe and moderator. No documentation of any sort from the manufacturer was included. 

The rifle finish as previously mentioned is very nice with very grippy checkering on the fore stock and pistol grip. The weight feels very balanced and manageable. The moderator could be better! My moderator didn't have any baffles in it. I am not sure if this is how it should be but is seems to me that it would be much more effective if it did contain baffles. I found the sound to still be pingy and not as quiet as my Hatsan AT44 QE that just makes a thud sound.

I was both surprised and pleased to have recived a 10 shot chrnograph report and 5 shot grouping of 10mm ctc at 35 yards.
 
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I bought a Krosa .22 from Randy at R&L back on 4/20/15. All the dealers that sell them have about the same pricing, but Randy gives you free shipping & it was a pleasure to do business with him. I Installed a lighter hammer spring from McMaster Carr & a regulator set at 1550 psi. This gives me a good 35 shots that stay at a constant 915 - 917 fps before dropping of the reg. My backyard range is 38 yds from my picnic table to the edge of a stream behind our house. JSB 14.3 gr. produce one hole groups all day long & CHP 14.3 gr in the tins about nickel sized groups. Before installing the reg. & installing a lighter spring it shot way to hot, 14.3 gr pellets were flying at 1040 + fps. The reg. eliminated all the ping & is very backyard friendly. Its a Keeper for sure. Like previously mentioned, the gun comes in a plain brown box with no marking at all & there is no paperwork or manual. I thought that was kind of odd.
 
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@ Rocko What was the cost of the regulator? Was it easy to install and preconfigured or did you chrony and set it up yourself?

My moderator was empty. I added a
few woman hair curlers 2 inside one another to act as ventilated baffles and they are working great. I have a lighter hammer spring as supplied by Randy of RL
airgunsupply however due to the lack of a pressure regulator is still pingy although very backyard friendly. 
 
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I talked to Randy at RLairgun's today because I too am looking to make a purchase very soon. He told me he is starting the regulator price at 75$, at this price he is losing a few bucks, so price is subject to change but he wants to get them out there and known. He is putting a regulator in a .25 tomorrow and he will post the shot string i'm sure. Check it out at facebook for the .22 results it's pretty impressive.
 
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"linsfreak"I had to return 4 of them little crickets let alone send some in to get fixed many many times!!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously don't own one anymore, but it was always a problem with air leaking in all different spots. They just never lasted.

JUST MY OPINION.

Still love that rifle though

John


Did you have issues with the cricket or hummingbird?

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"ajshoots"
"linsfreak"I had to return 4 of them little crickets let alone send some in to get fixed many many times!!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously don't own one anymore, but it was always a problem with air leaking in all different spots. They just never lasted.

JUST MY OPINION.

Still love that rifle though

John


Did you have issues with the cricket or hummingbird?

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I owned both and the only problem I experienced was idexing the magazine on the Colibri (Hummingbird) and that was fixed by Ernest Rowe, and later was said to be resolved by Kalibrgun. The latest news is Kalibrgun is discontinuing the Hummingbird. I don't know why.

 
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I have a cricket .25, never had a problem. I have had it about a year and a half and even though I was sent an extra set of o-rings I have never changed an o-ring in it. I have had it apart many times and tuned to different settings on the reg. and found that my shot count and accuracy is superb at 900 fps. about 48 consistent shots from a 200-205 bar fill down to close to 100 bar. I would recommend this gun to anyone interested.
 
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