Is this a Crow Mag?

Appears to be fitted with permanent Dampa Mount scope base which would make it a CM. More known as the Theoben Eliminator.

as far as I know Crow Magnums did not come with a Thumbhole stock, only the earliest Eliminators did (4th down). The stock looks like an Evolution and similar to my Olympus (2nd down).

Mike

This was sold to me as an Evo, but Sonny says it's an Olympus. What do you think. There's no Evolution markings on it.

JC

John, my info describes the Olympus with ..." the scope mount system is our rigid two piece set up which bolts into a fixed ramp" Yours appears to have no fixed ramp (unless removed?) ...so not likely to be an Olympus.

look at my pic above, yours is NOT and Olympus. notice the forestock & checkering as well as stated the scope mount set up, Oly has no milled scope grooves.

Nice timber on that one John.



Then again, coming from your collection, I expect nothing less.

It appears to be a Scirocco Gran Prix. In the '80s they shared the same stock - but the Eleminator had a longer action. Based upon the amount of wood behind the endcap of the action - it is too short to be an Eleminator.

Thanks guys. Appreciate the help. 

I don't think it's a Grand Prix cheek piece is not correct here's mine, again pretty sure it's an Evo especially if that's what it was sold as.

For me the giveaway is the forearm with cheekpiece. The picture from Willy looks like an Olympus from the checkering on the forearm (same as SLR98), and a very short cheekrest. The one from kingfisher looks like a Sirocco. Raised checkering with no widening (SLR98/Olympus) vs. inlaid checkering on a thicker forearm. Don't be surprised if the gun is misrepresented in the secondhand market. It has happened to me quite a few times, usually in my favor.

I'm fascinated by this thread because I now realize just how little I know about Theobens. I know the Eliminator (Crow Mag) was the big dog, and the Evolution was more of a mid-powered gas piston rifle. I have heard of the Sirocco but, until now, I had not heard of the Olympus. I couldn't find much else info, even after some review of the most recent edition of the BB of Airguns. How do all of these fit into the Theoben lineup? (setting aside the SLR) And could Chrony testing of these guns definitively prove what model they are,assuming each had the pressure adjusted to the max recommended pressure? Or is it more complicated than that? 

Mike

This was sold to me as an Evo, but Sonny says it's an Olympus. What do you think. There's no Evolution markings on it.

JC

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Evo, Sirocco, or Olympus, I say it doesn't matter - that's a particularly good-looker John, even for a Theoben. Love the mineral streaks in that one, and it looks pretty bad-ass with that moderator. 

chrony would not be definitive as several were made FAC & sub 12fpe in the same model, the Olympus is supposed to be the mid power level and come in ~22fpe in .22

Fenman, Olympus, Taunus. and Sirocco 2000 were all mid-range power of 20 ft/lbs in .22 cal. The SLR98 was 18 ft/lbs. All could be reduced in power to suit one's needs.. easier cocking and less recoil if needed. However, over filling the gas piston for more than they were designed for would burn out the piston seal.

22fpe...