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Can anyone post some links to videos or articles about shooting techniques? I just got a new rest for my bench and looking forward to seeing if it improves my groups. I know virtually nothing about shooting, I’m hoping to learn about it all. When I have a shooting session it’s usually with a front bag and a rear bag. I can often get very good groups, but not consistently. I know that I’m making all kinds of mistakes. For instance the rifle moves on the bags, I move in the chair and I end up concentrating on getting the crosshairs on the target and taking the shot. It never feels consistent, sometimes it works but I suspect that isn’t the way to approach it. Any info will be greatly appreciated.
 
Take a few deep breaths before pulling the trigger, be patient. A concentrated, calm state of mind.

Install a bubble level on your scope. Note also that some gun stocks make accurate shooting easier than others. I find traditional long guns the easiest, and bullpups or highly sculpted stocks much harder.

Ensure your trigger is light so pulling it does not move the gun. Hold it with the front section of your finger.

... and get to know your gun, exercise your shooting skills every day ! Success !

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I don’t have a level yet, I’ll order one. Thanks for mentioning that Parrotculler. My triggers are all very light. I suspect that rather than struggle to hold the crosshairs on target, I may need to try for a more consistent stable base to start from each time I set up for a shot. There’s way more to shooting than I thought. What fun this is. 
 
Dave...to answer your question properly, you need to be much more specific about the type of shooting you are wanting to do. Since you have purchased a front rest, you may be interested in some type of benchrest shooting. If you are looking for tips on what you should focus on to improve the fastest, you have to detail your question far more.

Mike 


 
Thanks guys. I’m just shooting off a bench for fun, I’ve hit a wall I guess and I believe that I can improve more. I’m getting a level and front bag for the rest. But I’d like to learn more about proper positions in setting up for the shot. When you have a session where you are trying hard for good groups do you do everything exactly the same way (position, cheek weld, breathing)? I’m hopeful that you guys who shoot in the contests will share exactly what you do from the point where you sit down at the bench. I totally understand if that’s secret information! After seeing the 50 yard card Mike shot in heavy wind I thought about what he must do to stay that consistent. I have a fused neck and that makes it really hard for me to get a good cheek weld on the stock. So mostly I’m shooting in the head up position no cheek weld, gun sitting on the bags. I guess I’m asking you experts for your secrets lol! Hopefully that’s not rude!
 
I am by no means an expert but from my other shooting disciplines I find shooting each target just once, instead of shooting for groups gives me more feedback about where the shot landed in reference to where I was aiming and what transpired during breaking the shot. It’s easier for me to tell from looking at one impact point verses a larger ragged hole.
 
I believe the most important thing in doing anything precisely, is consistency. Do the same thing the same way each and every time. When too many adjustments are made at the same time it is nearly impossible to diagnose any issues. Be steady, follow through, go slow in your movements, make them all deliberate. When you become consistent, then you can tease out technical issues. Perhaps practice things incrementally, finger placement and dry firing, cheek placement within your limits of range of movement, adjust your cheek rider height and angel and offset if possible, etc. Regarding your fusion, you may well have to make adjustments in your own posture to compensate for any deficiencies, what works for one may not work for everyone. Keep that in mind for yourself. I have countless things I have to manage as well but within those deficits am able to shoot well. Regarding field target and bum bags, etc., I can't do some of the positions, so those are a no go. :~( If anything, it is an adventure. :~) If you don't have anyone in person to watch your technique, you can always video yourself and review what you are doing in detail. 
 
You will have to tailor your shooting distance to the level of precision you are looking for based on the power and the projectile you are shooting. 

Precision in the airgun world is generally considered to average below 1 MOA ctc. Some targets are harder than others in that respect.


A 12 fpe pellet gun will not be able to compete at 50y with a 65fpe slug gun. 12-20 fpe pellet rifles can be shot precisely in most any wind out to 25m.


High powered pellet guns can be shot precisely in most wind up to 50y. Beyond 50 you will need to significantly temper your expectations based on the wind. Wind above 7-8 mph with pellets at 50y reduces the attainable precision drastically. Slugs can attain precision at 50y in heavy wind.

What power level and projectile are you shooting? Trying to shoot good scores at 50y with 10gr pellets is going to be very frustrating.

Mike
 
Great information guys. Igolfat8, I remember a post about shooting at each target once. I have a bunch of targets printed out so I can do just that. I have to admit that I tend to get discouraged when I see how inconsistent I am shooting a card of circles! The ragged hole makes me feel like a sniper lol. But you are right, the ragged hole can’t show what the card of circles does. Mtnviper, my favorite rifle is a Theoben but there’s no adjustable cheek piece. I have a .25 Crown that is better for long distance, it has a plain walnut stock, perhaps I should have a cheek piece put on, or get a different stock. I have never had an adjustable cheek piece. Another difficult situation for me is my 100 yard target is uphill, so it’s impossible for me to get a good cheek weld with the fusion, but the adjustable cheek piece would definitely help. Thanks for sharing your information!
 
I have a fused neck and that makes it really hard for me to get a good cheek weld on the stock. So mostly I’m shooting in the head up position no cheek weld, gun sitting on the bags. I guess I’m asking you experts for your secrets lol! Hopefully that’s not rude!

Hey Dave,

(A disclaimer: I am not an expert but have tuned and shot a few too many PCPs. All of which I seem to have great difficulties parting with ...)

Other attention points you may already aware of are parallax and ocular positioning.

Parallax: The trick to avoid consistency-killing parallax is to move your head back and forth and up and down. Adjust the focus of your scope until the target is fixed in the crosshairs irrespective of your head movements.

Ocular alignment: experiment with the height of your scope rings. I have found that I need high scope rings with certain guns to have good ocular alignment without a contorted neck, which kills my concentration. Often risers are needed as well, and not just for bullpups -- with them shooting often becomes so much more comfortable (and "zen"). You can find scope rings and risers in various heights for a good price on Aliexpress.

Enjoy!!

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Saltlake58, thanks for the link, I’m going to dive in, I’ve seen some 68 Whiskey videos, great guys! Looking forward to watching the shooting fundamentals too. Mike, I should have given way more information lol! In my post above I explained more...but it takes me so long to post I missed your answer. I use the JSB 25.39 pellets in the Crown on the full power adjustment setting. Don’t have a chrony yet so I’m not sure of the speed of the pellet. I’m only going to be using pellets for now. Slugs in my future at some point for sure. That 50 yard card you shot is really amazing.
 
Ha ha did it again, I missed your post Parrotculler! I have high rings on everything I shoot because of the fusion. The scopes are mounted as far forward as I can get them to be as Zen comfortable as I can get it. I’m thinking that the adjustable cheek piece is going to really help. I like the idea of the Crown in a bench rest stock like the RAW bench stock. Now I’ll push submit and will have missed another post lol. Dave the dinosaur.
 
If you can make a 3” wide block to add to the forend of your gun it will greatly ease your troubles. Buy a front bag for a square 3” block to use in your rest and then find a way to create a parallel surface on the tail that can ride in a good, solid rear bag. Some BR guys find it much more comfortable to move the scope rearward and shoot from behind the gun when using a rest and rear bag.


Mike 
 
Further considering your fusion, it may be a bit unorthodox, but perhaps using a much higher shooting bench/table or else very low chair/stool to sit upon would help your head/neck/body alignment and positioning to your scope to at least make it more ergonomically realistic and comfortable to shoot. Then put into place all the great technical advice and off you will go into consistent 10X territory! :~)
 
Thanks Mike, the block I got from AZ for my Steyr is awesome. It’s only a .22 so not so good at 100. I believe there’s enough wood on the Crown fore stock near the bottle that I could mount a rail to accept the block on the Steyr. With all this new information you guys shared I can see a bunch of stuff to try. I knew I was going to get answers, what a great forum. Thanks all!
 
Mtnviper, I’m very unorthodox shooting at my 100 yard target lol. Here’s my indoor out the window in winter set up.
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The gun is pointing at the 100 yard target. I’m a bag stacker!! AZ used to make a great shooting chair with a rest on the chair, leaned back comfortable. He said you could shoot for hours from the chair. If he ever makes them again I’m going to get one.