Improving the Atlas clone bipods

For those who have and use the Atlas clone bipods, I had a few hours on a rainy day today and did some experimenting to improve how that bipod functions. For those that don't like these, I can understand. I am not a big time bipod user and thought that the inexpensive clone would fit my needs. If I was in need of a fully reliable and proven bipod for critical situation use then the Atlas would be much better than this one, as would many other brands that have been discussed. But for me such isn't needed and this is for those who have similar needs but would like better function of the unit.

After disassembling the unit and studying function for a while, I did the following things.

1-I deburred the slot and polished the ball shaped pivot head lightly. I also rounded the shoulder of that round pivot head as well. Also, I smoothed the center hole and rim of the concave washer that the pivot ball fits against. All of this makes the tilt movement very smooth.

2-I put a flat washer under the concave washer to raise it slightly. This allows noticeably more tilt range by raising the entire platform slightly. This isn't necessary or possibly even needed but without it the mounting bracket edges hit the body of the bipod before maximum possible tilt. With this washer in place you can get the full tilt range allowed by the slot in the pivot head. It doesn't have to be a specific thickness and I used one from my spares bin that dropped into the hole and still allowed the silver bolt to pass through.

3-I put a thick o-ring under the tension spring to increase tension. A washer would have probably been better but I couldn't find one that would fit into the hole and over the diameter of the bolt at the same time. Such an o-ring does drag on the bolt a bit during panning but it isn't much. It may wear or condense over time but it could easily be replaced with a metal washer of some type. I may fit a washer there later when I have time to drill one to the right inner diameter and turn the outer down but the o-ring seems to work fine for now.

4-on the large adjusting nut I removed a bit of the raised bevel that surrounds the base of the tapped central body of that adjusting nut because it was contacting the body of the bipod. Again something that might not be necessary but it seems best that the adjusting nut be able to rotate freely during panning and I thought that if contact was only on the narrower end of the tapped area then it would drag less and rotate more freely. 

Finally, I dropped a pellet into the threaded hole in the adjusting nut and compressed it with hammer and punch. It took 4 pellets for mine. This makes the adjusting nut tighten onto the end of the chrome bolt that holds the mechanism together. The result is that you can then pan the unit without it loosening because with the nut effectively tight onto the end of the chrome bolt and the reduction in drag on the adjusting nut base from step 4 above, the adjusting nut will now turn WITH the main bolt instead of dragging on the bipod body and unscrewing when panned. This approach is less than ideal because any change to tension adjustment might cause the nut to loosen again but it would depend on how much one wants or needs to adjust that tension. Another possibly better way to accomplish this might be to drill and tap the bottom of the adjusting nut (or possibly drill and tap from the side through one of the scallops) and place a set screw to tighten the adjusting nut to the main bolt. I may do this in the future if the current setup loosens.

The clone will never be as good as the original. Material quality and fit/finish are surely not the same. But with the steps above, it functions well and doing such only costs as much as a washer, an 0-ring, and your time. For those that have these units and want to improve them, I hope this can help.

Happy New Year to all.


 
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It's obvious that the materials and machining on the clones can't match the original. Seems there is no way it could for the price. The cam plates for leg adjustment are stamped on the clone and apparently machined on the original. The press pins through the legs that fit into the cam plates have play in the leg and also don't engage the cam slots as tightly as they could on the clones. Both are probably much more tightly fit on the original. But as stated above, it is relative to what one needs, or just wants. If someone wants the best for a lifetime purchase then the original is available. Others may not need such and may do fine with these units, if they don't break😊. The entire concept of cloning is a totally different matter.
 
Nice write up, I did something similar, this is how I went about it



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I sent out several of these washers for a small donation to the forum, these are a couple of replies 



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riazp sent an email noting a thread from several years ago about these items. I deleted the email before linking it but it was titled Atlas vs. Clones so it should be able to be searched. That thread noted drilling a hole through the main bolt that the adjusting nut screws onto just above its end and putting in a piece of nylon bolt or rod through the hole. This would then work like a nyloc nut and would provide the same function as my set screw idea but drilling and installing nylon is much better as it would allow adjustment of the nut without another tool. A nice idea by the originator. That work and the fittings noted above could dramatically improve these things but as noted they will never match the original for quality.

Link to above thread-https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/atlas-vs-clone-knockoffs/
 
@bandg, I do nearly the same steps as you, and these clones work very well. After some experiments with the tension nut, I now use red Loctite to permanently set my tension, with a rubber washer to allow for some drag resistance when turning. It can still be removed if need be, but because I only use the tension nut once to adjust pan and tilt initially (then let it dry overnight) I found it better to be permanent.
 
@bandg, I do nearly the same steps as you, and these clones work very well. After some experiments with the tension nut, I now use red Loctite to permanently set my tension, with a rubber washer to allow for some drag resistance when turning. It can still be removed if need be, but because I only use the tension nut once to adjust pan and tilt initially (then let it dry overnight) I found it better to be permanent.

Not a bad idea but I would like to maintain adjustability if possible. I really like the idea presented by others of drilling the main bolt and putting a nylon rod/bolt section through that to help snug the nut to that bolt but still allow it to turn for adjustment. I'll probably do that to mine.

I did encounter an issue that some may have noted. The extending legs have an o-ring at the end of the main shaft that helps locate them and prevent excess movement. One of the o-rings on mine had unseated and was causing the extension to bind. I removed the feet with the press pin and then removed the screw inside to allow the extending leg portion to be removed. Then the o-ring can be replaced and lubed which should help keep it from binding and unseating. I did that to both legs and they seem much smoother in operation.
 
Regarding the Atlas clone and the problem of the tensioning knob loosening up or tightening up when panning left and right, I found what seems to be a great solution. Take the tensioning knob off, remove the flat washer that is under it if there is one, put a dozen (12) 3mm ball bearings in there where the flat washer was, and then screw the tensioning knob back on. I did this before I even greased anything on mine and the tensioning knob never loosens up or tightens up — it just stays tensioned where I set it. To put it another way, when I pan left or right, the tensioning knob always moves with the panning. I can't take credit for this idea. I found it as a comment that someone left for a youtube video on fixing these things. I hope this helps someone.

I posted this same info in another thread that was more of a comparison thread rather than specifically titled to indicate ways to fix this clone. Kind of a double post I guess, but I wanted this info to go to a thread where it would be more likely to be found.

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