Impact v Evol .....Daystate?

short answer, YES! (I am getting an Evol )

You may be onto something, of course if a few top shooters get their hands on the Daystate Safari in .30 cal it may close the power gap, personally I don't like the look of the EVOL, But for pure comptetition it wouldn't matter of course.

Maybe AIRFORCE will look to do the same with AAA as with RAW?

Interesting gun (Evol), a bit expensive but no more than a Daystate I guess.

I am surprised they went for Evol , Dont get me wrong , they seem to be amazing and do the trick and then some .... But perhaps I would have gone for RAW . I do love the new LRT , I think its an amazing gun and lots of people seem to like it , a great hunter and happy in a Bench rest comp too it seems ? Each to their own I guess ???





Rog

AirSupply ... You're probably right on most accounts but most all dealers are looking for something unique enough that they may be able to make a profit on. The Slayer and EVOL were conceived as hunting tools primarily but Tom has designed them and tunes them well enough to be competitive as well. 

At 6.8 lbs, the EVOL balances and carries nicely for about any hunting type shooting and is pretty good from a bipod as well. He's taken weight off anywhere possible but still is a VERY robust rifle, especially for the weight and power. I really don't have much attraction to the bigger bore rifles that only get a couple shots but got a chance to spend some time behind the Slayer in 30 cal last week. Shooting 99 gn slugs at 940 for 6 shots out of that little reservoir was pretty impressive and fairly light cocking effort as well. Accuracy was right there with my Safari 30 shooting 50 gn pellets at 100... very good!

Anyway ... the EVOL appeals to me but I'm really impressed by the Slayer. 

I wish both of them success with this endeavor.

Bob 

I’m not sure I “get” these exclusive distributor deals. I know nothing about retail sales Seems to me if I was going to sell only thru one outlet I’d figure away to just do it factory direct cutting out the middle man entirely. You could probably sell half the guns and make the same money. Keep it small . Build really high quality. Do all repairs and warranty work in house . Keep the customers happy. I suspect that one of the big issues with FX and AOA was repairs. Too many and too difficult. Don’t get me wrong I like FX guns but I also think they need to step up and do a much better job. My thoughts based on no first hand experience.

RAW needs to build a smaller lighter quieter gun that shoots slugs. DAYSTATE needs to just get a real slug friendly gun. FX needs to improve their dependability . I see all of this happening or other manufacturers filling in the cracks.

MOD EDIT: Removed uncorroborated conjecture of repair statistics.

Unless AAA's new relationship with AOA turns their deliveries around they are dead in the water. From info on GTA from people that have ordered rifles from AAA, they have not been able to deliver on orders placed as old as January 2019. I personally would not put money on that horse.

I've had an EVOL on order since February and I'm not complaining. I know once I get it it'll be the ultimate airgun for my uses so it's worth the wait. Also the deal with AOA I believe is that once there in stock then you can order them. That's how Tom made it sound at least so shouldn't be a wait. And likely why Tom got rid of pre-orders to not have the wait issue any longer

Those not willing to wait are receiving refunds, the Slayer and Evol are separate products that each require a separate type of build. Ordering is closed and after several more Slayers go out he will focus soley on the Evol platform. Having AOA as an exclusive dealer is a great thing, puts his focus on one task and that's to build guns. No emails, phone calls or other issues to take him away from machine work. AOA has been trained to repair them directly if any problems happen. Keeping the numbers small I think are what make the quality so much better than others can produce. The heavy price tag definitely reflects the guns performance. I personally can't wait to see reviews pop up from others besides myself and Claudio. Tom is very excited about the future of his product and I'm behind him 100%

I think the Evol is an awesome gun, my friend Bill (@crusher) bought one two days before EBR started and shot it there (how he did is a different story. ). I also think the new .30 Daystate Safari is a great gun, and will be a force in 100 yard BR competitions. Hopefully AoA stays away from recommending one over the other, since they are both awesome guns and both approximately the same price point...

Did they go up in price when they shifted to the AOA announcement? I could have sworn they were lower priced, closer to the Impact at around $2200 when I looked a few months ago. Now, they appear to be more than a Red Wolf at $2800. I could be completely wrong though, so don’t hold me to that. 

Personally I prefer by far the tactical look

A top quality daystate tactical is something I would buy! 

I thought this thread might be a good opportunity to say some quick remarks about the EVOL in 30 cal that I've been shooting.

I've been working on tuning velocity for the 44 grain JSB the last couple weeks as time has allowed. I hit money at 882 fps. I shot two mags full of eight rounds in each one, on paper at 60Y. I shot one group last week that was awesome and one this morning to confirm, both with all holes touching each time and at the same setting. First group was .3" tall and .4" wide and today's group was .3" tall and 1/2" wide - due to wind. Pellets right out of the tin too. I'd show the groups but the target I shot on is a mess from aiming at other pellet holes all over it.

I must say that this platform does excel with offhand shooting extremely well! In the past month I've gotten two rocksquirrels with the EVOL at 30Y, both those were DRT with that smashing 80-ish ftlbs of energy, one shot to the chest into both of them. Well so far I'm 100% for all 3 shots including a head shot on a Jack at 40Y. That rifle balances so well it almost seems easy, and isn't near as heavy as it might at first appear.

A few months ago I was very surprised to find out that it wasn't hard hitting a 200M chicken silhouette at my friends place, or even the 289Y 7" diamond shaped steel, all with the 44's, and that was using 2-3 mils of windage. Other PCP's present that day in 25 and 22 cal struggled on the same targets.

Being the high quality rifle that the AAA EVOL is I think it makes a great addition to any discerning PCP enthusiast!

I'm all for the deal that these two businessess put together. AAA and AoA is a good marriage for marketing and distribution; the thing that AAA needs to get a good foothold for the future. It allows for AAA to concentrate on the design and manufacturing aspects, and leave AoA to utilize their very established marketing and distribution setup.

I do know AAA is restructuring its assembly line/factory so it can ramp up production hopefully that’s the case.

EVOL’s barrel is firmly threaded into the receiver for maximum rigidity, unlike others that use set-screws, EVOL’s barrel can’t be knocked out of alignment during demanding field use.

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This one thing is a major part of being a game changer. Most PCP barrels are set screwed in place and it doesn't take much more than a slight bump to alter the point of impact. If more companies would screw the barrel into the receiver, the overall accuracy may improve considerably.