Impact 35 cal. Where is it?

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    PigeonMan
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    They said the impact mk2 will come in 35 cal. Well the mk2 has been out for some time now but I haven't seen anyone talk about the 35 cal. Only .22 and .25. I want to shoot 9mm out of my impact. Is the 35 cal out yet or not. Or just a myth like that hammer 50 cal. Just a fairy tail?

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    jwrabbit123
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    probably trying to sort out power requirements to shoot the 9mm slugs being they weigh like 100gr

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    PigeonMan

    They said the impact mk2 will come in 35 cal. Well the mk2 has been out for some time now but I haven't seen anyone talk about the 35 cal. Only .22 and .25. I want to shoot 9mm out of my impact. Is the 35 cal out yet or not. Or just a myth like that hammer 50 cal. Just a fairy tail?

    The mk2 had been out a month?  The hammer has been in a state of pre-release for 2+ years, be patient its coming.  

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    airgunmike56
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    I found out air gun time is different than real time, If they say it will be out this summer That means two summers from now it will be released,

    If they say the release date is soon, That means two to five years,

    πŸ˜„     Mike 

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    To give some context, I have an FX Impact X 25 cal shooting 34g JSB at 905fps for around 60fpe. I also have a 357/9mm W.A.R Flex  shooting 81gr pellets at 910fps for 150fpe, to shooting 120/140gr NSA slugs at 200+fpe. The W.A.R Flex is built like a tank, just look at the chassis, bolt probe, bottle block, regulator, tensioned barrel, shroud, etc… I have been shooting the 357 Flex for almost 2 years without any issues, it takes the recoil and stresses of 150-200+fpe like a champ. I can't confidently say that the 35 cal Impact , if released as is, will be able to handle the stresses of 150+fpe without FX beefing it up around these weak points:

    1) pellet probe and its retaining screw(known issue even for smaller calibers, imagine having 150fpe stressing it)

    2) barrel retaining screw and floating barrel design

    3) additional valve and regulator upgrades

    I think FX will need some major work to shoot 35 cal. The only pellet that currently fits is the JSB 81gr, which is short enough. The 35 cal polymags and NSA slugs all won't fit into the breech due to length. Is FX going to cut and extend the breech opening? If they do, it will change the existing dynamics of the Impact, by then you will have a 35 cal impact that differs from other caliber impacts… 

    I am rooting for the Impact 35 cal, because i can then share some 35 cal ammo between my Flex and Impact. But i am not holding my breadth for it, and when it does release, unless it is beefed up significantly, i won't be the guinea pig tester for it given the known weak points even with current smaller calibers.

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    PigeonMan
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    I plan to just get the barrel kit for the 35 cal. If they need to modify the impact just to shoot the 35 cal and we have to buy a whole new gun for $2000. I'm not interested. I was hoping we can just get the barrel kit and install in our existing impact. If have to buy a whole new impact I just put my money on the Texan.

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    PigeonMan

    I plan to just get the barrel kit for the 35 cal. If they need to modify the impact just to shoot the 35 cal and we have to buy a whole new gun for $2000. I'm not interested. I was hoping we can just get the barrel kit and install in our existing impact. If have to buy a whole new impact I just put my money on the Texan.

    I have my FX Impact and various 35 cal pellets in front of me now, including 34gr JSB mk2. Without extending the length of the FX's magazine breech length for 35 cal, there's almost no way one will be able to load 35 cal pellets via magazine into the Impact. You "might" be able to single load the 35 cal JSB diabolo, but that a pita….

    For comparison, my 25 cal JSB mk2 fit into the FX magazine with almost no room to spare. Here's an image comparing – 25 cal 34gr JSB mk2, 35 cal 81gr JSB, 35 cal 81gr Polymag, 35 cal 97.5gr Morrill, 110 gr NSA, 120gr NSA, 140gr NSA. And also a pic of the 35 cal polymag beside the length of the Impact breech for comparison. Bear in mind that the smallest pellet in the pics, my 25 cal 34gr JSB mk2 fits the FX magazine with almost no space to spare.

    The only pellet that you might be able to "hand load" in a 35 cal FX Impact is the JSB 81gr pellet. 

    Maybe FX might be able to manufacture a super thin magazine just to load 35 cal pellets, but even that, it is probably only the 35 cal JSB. That will be a severe pellet/slug limitation. My guess is that folks are going to be disappointed with the Impact 35 cal. The physics and space just isn't there…

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    HavocX
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    I'm pretty sure there was a video from IWA and they stated end of the year for the .357 cal.

    Ernest was developing the power tune kit along with the MKII and testing barrels this Summer.

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    PigeonMan
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    Dang so impact owner who wants to shoot .35 pellets or slug gonna need to buy a new gun or at least a new recevier/breach. I didn't think about the mag slot dimensions. Thought it was simple as changing barrel and probe. Might as well go for a bulldog or Texan for big bore.

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    Also, bear in mind that if you think some of the other 35 cal pellets in my pictures look like they can fit length-wise, they really do not fit – the FX impact's barrel chamber sticks out about 1/8 inch into the breech area, so the pellets need to be shorter than the full length of the cutout by a further 1/8 inch, and thus really limits the pellets one can load for 35 cal. I am really curious as to how FX is going to resolve this issue in the 35 cal FX Impact.

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    So, anyone seen Bigfoot(i.e FX Impact 35 cal) yet? Going to happen or just a FX marketing hype/promise that they hope will quietly go away?

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    sgtBunny
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    It was abducted by aliens.

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    Airgun-hobbyist
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    No word yet.  Though reading of some of the well thought out responses as to length of breech, etc,  I see that it can be done with a few select modification to the existing Impact's platform; modification that needs to be done anyway with the larger caliber and air volume needs.  I trust that they will be giving us a new .35 when most of the bugs are worn out by Ernest in his test lab!

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    Lord_AriEL144K
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    I agree ✌🏿🦁

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    cwooten5
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    Hey brother!

    Let me bring to mind the Hercules .357. I know outs a beast,  but with its 1,000 c.f. of air at 250 bar,  you can shoot 2 full 9 round mags before the velocity drops.  Accuracy is 3/4" at 50 yds with the heavy 97 grain pellets from Ricmor , (If I'm accurate) a seller on eBay.  I have shot a best of .66 with those pellets.  Or…. the much more nimble .35 Hercules bully.  Can't beat the price either.  You'll have to change out the not – well – thought – Out scope rail system on the bully.  A forward – extending picatinny works great if it's rigid.  They're both accurate and built like tanks.  Also they'll shoot 75 to 95 grain epp/ug and the .357 Nielsons very well.  

    Just my .02

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    sgtBunny
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    I only own two 88cf tanks so I don't think I could refill its tank.  🀣🀣🀣🀣

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    cmatera
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    Palm Beach Air shows it on the FX MKII page, but it’s not on the Select Caliber drop down menu.

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    sgtBunny
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    They have had it listed like that since it was announced last year.

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    cmatera
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    I’ve been waiting to get on the pre-order list for the .35 Impact, but if the .35 is going to be a totally separate gun that cannot switch to .177, .22, .25 and.30, I’m out.  I’d rather have the Impact with the 4 caliber capability and buy a cheapie big bore as suggested by cwooten5.

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    sgtBunny
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    You can do the other calibers.  Contact SPAW and get on his pre order list.

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