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    mtnGhost
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    Gunnertrones

    Mounted the Immersive today to my FX Wildcat. Had some shooting time, and I am all over very satisfied. 
    The short eye relief is new to me, and something I have to get used to. Unpleasant in the beginning, but after a couple of magazines I kind of got used to it. The field of view and crisp image is excellent, and for this little scope (and extremely low weight) with 10 x power almost unbelievable. 
    But the looks…….?  Not so sure. It looks a bit odd with the mounting so far back (due to the short ER again), but it sits tight and firm so no problem there. 

    Boxtest?  Didn’t do that today. In fact I didn’t use the turrets at all. I was going to set zero at about 50-60 meters, but the scope was dead on when I took my first shots at 50 meters. Didn’t have to adjust anything. Never have experienced that before with a scope right out of the box, and a bit amusing aktually. 

     

    I'm extremely curious to check one of these out! I wonder if the eyebox is like my EOTech G33, where you can still see a clear sight picture, but not the entire FOV until you plant your eye on the glass?

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    Gunnertrones
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    MtnGhost, you literally have to lay the eyeball on the glass to get a full view, but the view is Fantastic. Crystal clear all the way to the edges. But sorry to say, the close eye relief becomes too irritating for me in the end, so the Immersive, even as unique it is, is going to join the other “shelfscopes” in my basement. 🙁

    I have consider the 5x Immersive with a bit longer eye relief, but it is still only  5x so I think I will pass. 

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    madeintheuk
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    So it’s put in the category with the mtc viper connect. Only the nyc is adjustable magnification. 

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    Larcat
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    madeintheuk

    So it’s put in the category with the mtc viper connect. Only the nyc is adjustable magnification. 

    What is the nyc?

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    madeintheuk
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    Larcat

    madeintheuk

    So it’s put in the category with the mtc viper connect. Only the nyc is adjustable magnification. 

    What is the nyc?

    https://www.opticsplanet.com/mtc-optics-viper-connect-sl-3-12×24-riflescope-amd-reticle.html

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    bigHUN
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    Lets be transparent to photographic lenses, DSLR lenses in example.

    This IO 14×50 lens what I've got is a 35 or maybe 38 mm prime lens (non zoom) compared to a 50mm = impressive clarity prime lens in a wider field view then a normal ordinary lens.

    I would call it a 38mm F2.8 prime vs 50mm.

    My photography friends can fully understand what I am saying….for ordinary Joe, the glass quality is higher middle class = this means well worth the money.

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    JungleShooter
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    Attila,

    I see — with sadness — that the IO scopes have capped turrets….. 😟  —  The MTC scopes have readily accessible turrets….

    I would love to hear an evaluation of the turrets.

     

    Thanks for the photographic description — fully understood. 👍🏼

     

    Matthias

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    bigHUN
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    JungleShooter

    Attila,

    ….

    I would love to hear an evaluation of the turrets.

    Pretty much "set-and-forget" turrets and you ride the reticle. I mount it to my new L2, sight in for 20 and go by the marks. Not finished yet only mounted the scope, and shopping for a picatinny extension, my cheekweld missing about 12-15mm on height and want to move the scope backwards to my eyes

    I like that second focus ring position

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    JungleShooter
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    Yeah, the "set and forget" is great for the reticle aimers

    however for turret dialers like me — who shoot a low powered rig to 50y and beyond — this is not the preferred procedure…. 😊

     

    Thanks for your quick answer! 👍🏼

    Matthias

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    bigHUN
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    Yes you are right, this scope is application specific design for games you estimate the distance and compensate.

    I guess (still did not try it on the range yet) this shall work for me with a L2 practising/training timed silhouettes 10-50 M. Mayben can work for FieldTarget as well?

    My Impact is assigned to an other task, a long range gun and I am riding the turrets on my Falxon X50, 50-100-150 M.

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    Mballistics
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    bigHUN

    finding a cheekweld little bit low, I would raise it for about 12-15mm and then move it backward for some 45-50mm again

    This should work well to rise and bypass the pin at the end of the L2 mounting rail

    https://www.amazon.com/LONSEL-Dovetail-Picatinny-Adapter-Convert/dp/B0982V87YJ

     

     

     

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    1shooter
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    One downside to the close eye relief models is if you are hot and sweaty the back eye piece can and will fog up quick. 

    maybe removing the rubber eye cup will prevent this but I enjoy using this scope as a point of contact to steady the crosshairs. 
     

    figure I would point this out to others. 

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    Mballistics
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    1shooter

    One downside to the close eye relief models is if you are hot and sweaty the back eye piece can and will fog up quick. 

    maybe removing the rubber eye cup will prevent this but I enjoy using this scope as a point of contact to steady the crosshairs. 
     

    figure I would point this out to others. 

    how then millions of people manage to use binoculars?

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    Larcat
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    Anyone using the concertina eyecup with glasses? Does it work for you? Still waiting on my 5×30 to come.

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    1shooter
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    Try asking Mballistics

    he knows millions of people who do so their is a good chance one of them wears glasses and manages. 

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    Mballistics
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    1shooter

    Try asking Mballistics

    he knows millions of people who do so their is a good chance one of them wears glasses and manages. 

    pretty sure half of households on this planet have at least one pair of binoculars, a good number of those use spectacles and managing somehow, kind of a straightforward fact 

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    bigHUN
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    you see…if people never had one bino or monocular they for sure have a hard time to understand

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    NickT
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    I previously had the MTC SWAT 12×50 on my Wildcat 30.  This scope was a mixed bag for me.  On one hand, it had nice glass and a great field of view for its magnification.  But it always seemed to sit too low.  I even added some 1in risers and it still seemed a little low for me.  The other issue was its paper-thin focal/parallax plane.  Everything had to be dialed-in perfectly to get a good image.  I remember reading how MTC sold this as an advantage as you could use the focal plane to accurately judge distance but I just found it annoying.

    I then sold the SWAT and bought an Immersive Optics 5×30:

    When comparing the field of view and magnification of these scopes, you do give up a bit with this one.  The 12×50 has a FOV of 10m at 100m while the 5×30 has an FOV of 12 at 100m.  Since there is typically a tradeoff between FOV and magnification, I think comparing the product of the two values allows for comparison among scopes.  The 12×50 has an FOV*Mag product of 120 while the 5×30 has 60.  So, on paper, the 12×50 is much higher performing design.

    But, the additional eye relief gained and more forgiving focal/parallax plane makes the 5×30 a much more user friendly.  Also, it is a bit lighter, which is always nice.  Overall, I like this scope much better.

    I use this setup for pesting and did like the 12x magnification of the MTC.  But, I can get by with the 5x.  I bought the Mil Rapid reticle.

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    Larcat
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    @nickt thanks for the review there.

    Can you give thoughts on the reticle? I've got the same scope slowly winding it's way to me from England….

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    NickT
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    I'm in Wisconsin and my order took quite a while to arrive.  It entered the USA through Chicago and sat there for over a week before making the last few miles of its journey.  The wait was killing me….

     

    Anyway, the reticle is good for me.  I bought the scope for close-ranged (<30 yards) pesting so the MilDot Rapid works nicely.  It is not too busy, which I like.

    I put the picture above for reference.  The way I have been using the reticle, when I first raise the rifle and look through the scope, I do a coarse alignment by just trying to place circle around the target.  As I steady, I tighten my focus on the triangle.  It works pretty well.

    In contrast, the reticle on the MTC SWAT 12×50 is much more complicated:

    At the distances I shoot, I don't really have to worry about windage or drop so all those extra features didn't do me much good.  The way I used it, its essentially just a messy duplex.

    I haven't had to use it yet, but the illumination seems to work well, too.  I probably would have preferred if just the triangle in the middle lit up rather than the whole thing, but I guess it's fine.

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