I bought a new springer.

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crosman2016

crosman2016

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I bought a Ruger Impact springer today. Here is my grouping, trying to sight in the crappy 4 x 32 scope that came with it.

I have other scopes, but they are for firearms, not air rifles. They say you need an air gun scope, which are tougher than standard rifle scopes. I will most certainly be getting a better air rifle scope for this air gun. Here is the air rifle.

It is a .22 caliber, that is rated at 800 FPS with lead pellets, and 1000 FPS with alloy. I don't have a crony, so I would bet they are running more like 725 and 900, but I don't have alloy pellets yet.

They said to run RWS pellets, I know from shooting a lot of .22 rim fire, that my RWS Match ammo is pretty darn accurate, out of my Savage Mk II, but I don't know if the RWS pellets are any more accurate than the Ruger ones or the Crosman ones I have on hand. I can tell that the .22 pellets penetrate better than my .177 ones do.

The gun shot pretty well, but the cocking force of the barrel is TOUGH! All in all, I am happy with it.
 
Cool looking little rifle man ! And definitely nice shooting . It'll get a little easier to cock and shot cycle will settle down when it gets broke in . It usually takes a tin of pellets for everything to settle down .
If you get the chance pick up some JSB and H&N pellets to try . They are usually very uniform . Th pellets they normally sell at the stores in my area are just ok , they never seem to carry the better pellets.
Looks like a very solid scope mount , just keep an eye out on the online stores an you can find a nice scope with adjustable objective . Main thing is HAVE FUN with your new 22 !!!
 
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Thanks JoeWayneRhea. I intend on buying some different brands of pellets online, so I will pick up some of those JSB's & H&N brands. Does the pellet weight matter much?

Addertooth. The adapter came already mounted from the factory. They did have it blue loctited, so I did not mess with it. I used blue loctite on the scope mounts, after degreasing them first. I only fired about twenty or so pellets, but it did not move from what I can tell. I am, next week, going to order some other pellets and a different scope for this gun. The scope that came with it has horrible clarity. I will use the above suggestion, and get one with an AO, for I have a couple of those scope types on two other powder burners, and they certainly have their advantages.

I ventured into a springer, because I am really new at air gunning, but am (just like with firearms) hooked. I have been neglecting firearms as of late, so I have the money for air gunning. I really would want to purchase, as my next "gun" buy, a side cocking rifle. I have been looking at RWS and Walther makes. Let me know if any of you here have any suggestions. Thanks. Mike.
 
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"crosman2016"I bought a Ruger Impact springer today. Here is my grouping, trying to sight in the crappy 4 x 32 scope that came with it.

I have other scopes, but they are for firearms, not air rifles. They say you need an air gun scope, which are tougher than standard rifle scopes. I will most certainly be getting a better air rifle scope for this air gun. Here is the air rifle.

It is a .22 caliber, that is rated at 800 FPS with lead pellets, and 1000 FPS with alloy. I don't have a crony, so I would bet they are running more like 725 and 900, but I don't have alloy pellets yet.

They said to run RWS pellets, I know from shooting a lot of .22 rim fire, that my RWS Match ammo is pretty darn accurate, out of my Savage Mk II, but I don't know if the RWS pellets are any more accurate than the Ruger ones or the Crosman ones I have on hand. I can tell that the .22 pellets penetrate better than my .177 ones do.

The gun shot pretty well, but the cocking force of the barrel is TOUGH! All in all, I am happy with it.
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Welcome to AGN! Here are my random thoughts on your post.
  • 4x32 doesn't necessarily = crappy. For example, it's perfect for squirrel hunting at short-medium range. If the reticle comes loose or it won't hold zero, then it's crappy. ;) They are right about (springer-rated) airgun scopes being tougher. Spring piston airguns recoil in both directions, rather than just rearward, like powderburners. (PB).
  • One shot is not a group. Shoot a minimum of 5 shots for a group. 10 is better. Otherwise, we don't really know what's going on. Then, consider the point of impact (POI) to be the center of that group.
  • Joe is right, about it taking a big amount of shots to break in a gun. You'll see it start to settle down after 100 rounds, and it should be good to go by 500. If you cleaned the barrel before you started shooting. If not, clean it, shoot some (5-shot) groups, and revel in your new-found accuracy. ;) When Diana builds those guns, they don't know how long they're going to be stored in a warehouse somewhere. So they put some grease in the bore to make sure it doesn't rust in storage. Then, some poor chump buys it, shoots it, and wonders why it was really loud for the first few shots and why it is shooting all over the place.
  • Regarding the better scope, get something that zooms out to at least 12X, and that has an adjustable objective. (focus) You need the 12X because in airgunning, we shoot at smaller targets than the neanderthals that shoot powderburners. For a reasonably-priced scope that will satisfy, I recommend the Leapers/UTG 3-12x40 for around $110. If I'm honest, I like it better than my Leapers/UTG 4-16x40. The 4-16 is basically the 3-12, but the zoom was stretched beyond the capabilities of the optical design, and they jacked it up in the process.
  • Crosman pellets that aren't "Premier" are crap. Period.
  • Alloy pellets are generally crap as well. Stick with lead. 
  • 750 fps with lead is quite a respectable power level, in a .22 springer. Don't worry that it falls short of Ruger's advertising. Accuracy, is loads more important. Would you rather miss with 900 fps, or hit with 700? ;)
  • "They" say to run RWS pellets because RWS/Diana built the gun, which was re-branded as Ruger. It's not a bad thing, but the recommendation to shoot RWS pellets is 100% trying to take more of your business. Crosman, (Premier only) H&N, JSB all make good pellets. Buy a pellet sampler pack to find out which pellets your gun likes: http://www.straightshooters.com/straight-shooters-full-pellet-sampler-.22.html < It will be the third best $35 you ever spend on that airgun. (after the scope and rings)
  • That is a beautiful gun. I like Ruger's stock design better than Diana's.
  • You can't compare RWS airgun ammo with their PB ammo. They're totally different animals.
  • For your next airgun, don't buy a side-cocking springer. Buy a PCP. Side-cocking is just a variation on the theme. PCP is a whole different animal, and it is the technology that can really give the .22LR a run for its money.
  • Don't panic when you find yourself enjoying airgunning more than PBs. It's like going from a Corvette down to a Civic Si: The Corvette is more fun when you have a miles of open road, but the Civic is more fun in the real world, where you actually drive.
  • Ruger doesn't make pellets. Whoever's they are, (probably RWS) they're not Ruger's.
  • Don't be worried about the above. Keep on keepin' on, and enjoy.
  • Look up the Artillery Hold. Learn it. Practice it. Live it. Your group size will halve.
Enjoy your stay at AGN!

 
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I just got one of these and am not impressed. The only pellets I have on hand that will shoot decent groups and are able to get scope zeroed are H+N Rabbit Magnum 25gr. They are a bit expensive for plinking and only moving 460-480fps. H+N FTT 14.6 and Crosman Premier 14.3 are shooting about 650 with a few still jumping to 690.13.4 JSB are goin 650 pretty consistent, but can't adjust the scope or sights high enough to get on target closest I can get is 4 inches low at 10 yards. I cant find a hold that will prevent the pellets from bouncing off the ground at 20 yards. I ran about half a tin of pellets through it before tightening the stock and even attempting to zero it because the verticle stringing was like none I have seen.

​I just wanted it to use up the stock of .22 pellets I had laying around and shoot basic break barrel class at field target. (normally shoot WFTF with my HW97 or Open with the Discovery. I am normally pretty handy but am not sure about this, the barrel is straight and locks up tight.
 
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Barrel droop shouldn't effect the iron sights since they are attached to it. Those 25 grain pellets hit dead on with the scope cranked back to center. The random 690 fps shots with 14.3s hit right at point of aim, the rest go low. I put some shims under the rear of the scope with no noticeable change. It does have the ball detent. Maybe it just likes lobbing heavy pellets, it will be like throwing mortars at those field targets. I have an RWS lockdown mount I can try.
 
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"Bobbed06"I kinda want a Ruger springer in 22 flavor as my 177 Ruger has been amazing for me. It took a while for my 177 to settle in, about 500 shots maybe. How is it doing for you so far?
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Well, I took it out one more time and ran another 30 pellets through it. I did punch the bore before and after I went, and put one drop of the lube for the spring. Actually, it shot just about the same. Man, I have to admit, shooting an air rifle is tough. I have rifles that I can put 5 out of 5 in the head of a B-27 target, at 400 yards, but am getting frustrated at shooting 1.5" groups at 25 yards. I guess I tend to grip the rifle like I would when I was shooting long distance, while in the Marines. I mean, I really cinch down on the gun...with a high powered rifle, that's what you do.

I have been watching videos of how to hold an air rifle, versus a powder burning rifle, but it just must take practice. I have to admit though, after cranking that barrel down about 30 times, my leg was sore from the pressure of the rifle butt! Oh well, not wanting to throw my arms up in defeat, I will keep at it until I get it right.
 
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